u/ExplanationSquare313

By that i mean funny or strange exemple of things completly out of date or never played straight who are allowed to stay because it's too iconic and/or too ingrained into the franchise DNA.

And there's a lot of these kind of things, like the Scooby Gang outfits, Krusty the Clown show still existing, Pokemon main games always being in two versions, Ace Attorney taking place in California, Princess Peach being kidnapped being played straight (and even then it depend), Martian existing in Doctor Who or DC Comics,...I could go on and on.

Is there exemples of this really sticking out?

If you're a Pokemon fan, theres a chance you already heard about Takeshi Shudo. If you didn't, Shudo was the head writer for the Pokemon anime and the first three movies until quiting while Johto.

He had a lot of ambitions of the Pokemon anime. He wanted to write something every ages could enjoy, but he also had some weird ideas about the Pokemon world. You can learn about his scrapped ideas in his anime novelization he wrote on his blog a bit before his death (like 10 years old trainers being legally considered full adults and Gym Leaders being fired after 3 defeats after the others).

But one of his wildest ideas was what he had originally in mind for the anime ending. You see, his idea was a Pokemon revolution against trainers lead by Ash Pikachu and Meowth were going to be the translator to help negociations. This wild idea was scrapped but if you rewatch the Kanto arc, you can still see some build up to it with the numerous instances of Pokemons protesting against humans infrastructure on their territories and of course the famous episode 19 where a giant Tantacruel destroy a town for this reason while speaking through a mind controlled Meowth.

Or in Archie Sonic, Ken Penders originally wanted to kill Sally (in the most unceremonious way, she just fall of a cliff) and then to reveal the Sally who seemed to have survived was actually a robot double. It was dropped because of fans outcry and Sega demand but you can still see a few hints about it in the 2 following issues.

One last for the road, since X-Men 97 put a new spotlight on him, Mr Sinister was originally supposed to be a psychic projection of a immortal child/teen creating a villain persona, and Gambit his hero persona. I didn't read these comics yet but apparently you can see some foreshadowing about it.

Do you have funny exemples?

Yeah it's maybe a bit too specific but i was wondering if there was some franchise who unfortunatly can't reference what was important plots, or at least not with too much details because it's intertwined with massive early installment weirdness?

I don't have exemple in mind right now but i'm sure i already saw cases like this.

It's a phenomenon i always was fascinated by. Some stories or characters who were popular at the times become disliked or even hated decades later. And in reverse, stories or characters who were hated at the time but are now beloved?

For exemple, Adam West Batman show is now way more loved as a fun campy comedy with Batman and Adam West being a very good actor, when in the 90s and 2000's it was considered a embarassement who should be forgotten as a relic from the past.

Or in reverse, the Ultimate Universe who was considered a cool and modern more "realistic reinvention of the Marvel Universe is now seen as a bad edgy universe where every characters are assholes (except for Ultimate Spiderman who still hold up).

Any exemples?