Would you want Tengrism to gain official recognition in your country? I’m not talking about making it the only official religion/belief, just an official status. I don’t think there would be any harm in that. In fact, I think it could encourage more research into Tengrism.
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Would you want Tengrism to gain official recognition in your country? I’m not talking about making it the only official religion/belief, just an official status. I don’t think there would be any harm in that. In fact, I think it could encourage more research into Tengrism.

Would you want Tengrism to gain official recognition in your country? Azerbaijan, Turkey, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan republic of Turkish Cyprus, and the autonomous Turkic republics&regions, such as Gagauzia, Tatarstan, Chuvashia, Bashkortostan, Altai Republic, Khakassia, Sakha , Tuva, and South Azerbaijan (Turkic populated area), East Turkestan etc.

I’m not talking about making it the only official religion/belief, just giving it official status. I don’t think there would be any harm in that. In fact, I think it could encourage more research into Tengrism and help revive it.

What do you think r/Tiele folks?

I don’t think there’s anything wrong with preserving and embracing the beliefs of our ancestors either. It wouldn’t affect most people anyway. Nationalists, secular people, and non-believers/atheists would probably be more likely to embrace it. It would also give those who are already interested (or Tengrist already) in Tengrism an opportunity to adopt it.

u/Few_Moment_3131 — 8 days ago
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How genomics proved the Siberian origin of the Scythians

For decades, mainstream history taught us that the Scythians and the indo europeans were close cultural and linguistic cousins. But modern science just flipped that script. While linguistics proves some of the Scythians spoke an Indo-Iranian language, recent breakthroughs in ancient genomics have completely dismantled the idea that they were ethnically connected to the indo europeans. Instead, the data reveals that "Scythian" wasn't a single race, but a diverse nomadic confederation whose genetic and cultural roots trace back directly to indigenous East Asian and Paleo-Siberian populations.

This school of thought argues that the original founders of Scythian culture were genetically and geographically indigenous Siberians who underwent a language shift, adopting an Indo-Iranian language from their western neighbors

Historians and geneticists who back this theory outline a specific sequence of events:

  1. The Indigenous Siberian Core: In the Early Iron Age (around 1000–900 BCE), the people living in southern Siberia (Tuva, the Altai, and the Minusinsk Basin) were ethnically and genetically East Asian/Paleo-Siberian. They spoke non-Indo-European languages—hypothesized by some researchers to be early Proto-Turkic, Yeniseian, or Uralic.
  2. The Birth of Scythian Culture: These Siberian populations were the first to fully master nomadic horse riding, developing the earliest "Scythian-style" animal art, weaponry, and burial mounds (like the famous Arzhan kurgans in Tuva).
  3. The Indo-Iranian Language Shift: As these Siberian horse lords expanded their trade networks and territory westward across the Eurasian steppe, they came into intense contact with Indo-Iranian pastoralists (descendants of the Andronovo culture). Over generations, the Siberians adopted the Indo-Iranian language as a lingua franca (trade language) because it was highly useful for cross-continental communication.
  4. The Westward Sweep: This newly mixed population Siberian by blood and material culture, but Indo-Iranian by speech swept westward into Ukraine and the Black Sea region, becoming the "Scythians" that the ancient Greeks eventually met.

The Scientific Evidence Supporting This:

  1. The Oldest Tombs are Siberian: Archaeologically, the oldest Scythian sites are in eastern Siberia, not the western lands closer to Iran or Europe. If the culture was purely an offshoot of western Indo-Iranians, the oldest sites would be in the West**.**
  2. Genetics Show High East Asian DNA: Modern paleogenomics regularly reveals that the earliest Eastern Scythians (the Saka) carried massive amounts of indigenous Siberian and Northeast Asian DNA.
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u/Few_Moment_3131 — 8 days ago