u/Fit_Veterinarian_729

I'm gonna be engaging in some detective media for a bit and engage the reasoning side of my brain. Eventually I'll get to 18LOH, but I'm curious on everyone's assessment of him.

So I want any prominent fan to scale how he is as he goes(by chapters).

As tiering systems are subjective, here's my reference guide using characters I know.

Entry lv SCD - Naomi Misora etc.

LOW Tier - Mello etc.

high LOW Tier = Nagumo Miyabi, Kimura Kei etc.

LOW-MID Tier = Takuya Yagami etc.

low MID Tier = Yuuichi Katagiri, Chishiya etc.

MID Tier = Yumeko, Akira Shiroyanagi etc.

high MID Tier = Yokoya, Ayanokoji etc.

MID-HIGH Tier = Ukai Zero, Scofield etc.

low HIGH Tier = Patrick Jane, Kanade etc.

HIGH Tier = Akiyama, Tokuchi etc.

peak HIGH Tier = Akagi etc.

TOP Tier = Fang Yuan Vol 6 etc.

We all know she's going to. Anyone keeping up with the story's themes knows this is how it will end.

...honestly I think there's a 30% chance that Ryuen's class does a surprise win...but the other 70% is to Suzune. Ichinose is NOT winning lol not even a suggestion. Idk why anyone is still in her bum class. And neither is Koji.

Either way Suzune will win in terms of ideology at the very least.

"B-but power of friendship winning is so basic!!" 😭

Yeah well....COTE IS basic. I wish fans who over-interpret this series just accept this. COTE is a basic series that makes logical errors at times, typical villain lobotomizing, fun moments, packed with rules that never get used and has pretty basic themes that are just barely enough to make a story. That's what it is.

COTE is theme-dominant. Remember when people in JJK Fandom were saying it's impossible to beat Sukuna? Yeah Suzune is Yuji in this case.

If I had to predict how Suzune would win...it'd be through some form of trust or whatnot. Her classmates trust each other to do their part. There will be a "doom" period of despair due to a loss(prolly already happened due to Y3V4) but they'll get back up.

While Ayanokoji's biggest weakness is that he's one guy. Class C and Class D have no real connection to him like that. The only one who seems to be building something with him is that bobblehead Morishita.

He can't manage everything and if he tries to, could be taken down Nagumo style.

It fits the themes of anti meritocracy and shii. Everyone matters. Lol maybe even Ike will do something.

If Nagumo, Koenji, Takuya or Ayanokoji win...the story is just a dumb slop power fantasy for kids. But Suzune winning would be it's last chance to redeem itself.

We already saw Nagumo lose for the themes. Never got to fully exercise his power. Never got his clash of egos. The most he tried on Koji was a bit of bullying. Bravo genius! Hey it made Koji want to stay in his room I guess?

In a logical scenario, Nagumo would've won. Even if denied his battle. He simply has too much influence allowing kamikaze type schemes where he could've gotten Koji expelled. Of course Koji was baiting him saying "next time bro trust" only to finally lock in for minigames, but Nagumo should've took initiative.

And Koenji would have lost in UIE had Nagumo tried(so even if that dumb Koenji "plan" that Dax thought up in imaginary land existed, it would literally only buy bro like an hour of time tops...which wouldn't work if Nagumo went all out).

Takuya lost purely for themes. I've already made plenty discussion on how flawed the Love Letter plan was and had Takuya possess the intellect people claim he does, simple strategic shielding would've prevented it. And Ayanokoji's methods/subpar reasoning could've been exploited.

All that's left is for Koenji and Ayanokoji to lose fully.

Cooperation beats engineered dominance. COTE be copying Liar Game smh.

Ayanokoji's other weakness(love for Hiyori) is built via the fact she's his only connection without an agenda. However if Ryuen misuses her too much, Koji or even Hiyori might go against it. I think Ryuen's purpose is just to bleed Koji a bit before Horikita finishes him off.

But really, when Ayanokoji loses to typical strategic cooperation. It's just even more proof that Akiyama solos.

Koji beyond human. Therefore he beats everyone in SCD. Take that scalers!

Finding ONE MOVE better than a machine then going around acting like you can beat a chess machine no diff and that you can visualize even nearly on the same level as it without any proof is THE MOST PRETENTIOUS FAKE INTELLECTUAL THING I've ever heard of.

It gives the same vibes when you beat your friend one time in a game when he wasn't looking after 100 Ls, then quitting to go around saying you can beat him easily 😂

Anyways here are the links;

COTE -

1. https://lichess.org/study/QVxpVRg1/yWtdDp1H
2. https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1GZMMnyQ-AoS3dIig0rbIRHdz7JrKzkoE5vtEogYPO3A/mobilebasic

NGNL -

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/118zQtpV2EhXx5g1GwG6wUjpc83rdWvzgYN4eXIXGctg/mobilebasic

The Mentalist -

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1NFXRhoqtUY9thibrRx-oiNom4PdM5gC6AbJ2-Nnd-to/mobilebasic

Death Note -

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1hif6Zq1i0q0pngRpMehcV1Nj1LQ3vhUB/view

Code Geass -

https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/1YM_fGcfr2V9JNE0SSmMt8eUOHhqqiv-gXPBiaYbn9dw/mobilebasic

Credits to doc makers

That was so stupid.

....That shit was assss.

Super booty butt doo doo ass.

Utter shit. 0/10 ending.

No-one will ever convince me otherwise.

I would rather watch The Boys S5 zero skips than read this shit again.

Inspector Tsukumo got nerfed to literal oblivion in the last 10 chapters.

Holy SHIT he was suddenly dumb and mischaracterized. Gah Lee bro!

You HATE to see it. Even Y2V7 Takuya wasn't this nerfed.

That's it...Final Arc Tsukumo is the most nerfed character I've ever seen.

Dude suddenly has ABSOLUTELY ZERO emotional awareness.

"Yeah bro he's emotional unaware of things which is why he does weird stuff like put spice on Popsicles in front of people etc"

No! He's not!

One of the entire reasons he came up with the handcuff trap was because one of his colleagues nearby made a joke about Midzuno handcuffing herself to him. He's aware enough to do lateral creative thinking and attribute a joke to an actual strategy.

Then in final chapters dude just walks COMFORTABLY with Makoto, barely giving a fuck that Makoto admitted to >!killing his partner Midzuno(the way Midzuno dies is so fucking dumb too)!<

And then right in front of Makoto he's all like I'm gonna taser ur sister you have a weird obsession with hope u don't mind

And then the way >!he dies is so utterly comical. Like every other death in the show has some level of realism if even slightly exaggerated for emo effect, but Tsukumo gets his entire head sliced clean in two blows from a small hunter knife. And it's especially jarring since he JUST had a fake out death 10 chapters ago. Like deadass in the chapter he dies in, he acts like a COMPLETE NPC FODDER.!<

Yeah bro I'm tempted to give this guy "no tier" after this fuckry. But first 45 chapters Tsukumo was so goated ugh the author just had to pull some emo forced depressive shit in the end.

Last 10 chapters Tsukumo is Fukunaga's complete bitch in every way, loses every category.

I wouldn't recommend this Manga honestly. It's forced depressive junk with stupid hypocritical upbeats of hope at the end. The writer clearly got bored with the concept like 30 chapters in.

Makoto's character completely ends after Tsukumo manipulates Yae to continue curse(so last 15 chapters all you're seeing from Makoto is BOT activity, he even calls himself something like a bot at one point).

And the dying sister has ZERO character start to finish. Total plot device.

Tsukumo is the only one who keeps it interesting until the story makes him become a bot last 5 chapters.

Just read the Tsukumo doc made by u/a_xakimv and go ur merry way. This manga even has an unnecessary cliffhanger ending.

Working Memory Index: Yuuichi

Cognitive Proficiency Index: Yuuichi

Processing Speeding Index: Yuuichi

Verbal Comprehension Index: Yuuichi

Visual Spatial Index: Yuuichi

Overall Full Scale IQ: Yuuichi

Crystallized Intelligence: Yuuichi

Fluid Intelligence: Yuuichi

Emotional Intelligence: Yuuichi

Social Intelligence: Yuuichi

Social Engineering: Yuuichi

Adversity Capacity: Yuuichi

Manipulation: Yuuichi

Manipulation Methods: Yuuichi

Deception: Yuuichi

Psychological Warfare: Yuuichi

Strategy: Yuuichi

Planning: Yuuichi

Tactics: Yuuichi

Tactical Prowess: Yuuichi

Reasoning: Yuuichi

Thinking: Yuuichi

Analysis: Yuuichi

Judgement: Yuuichi

Sensory: Yuuichi

Countering: Yuuichi

Counteraction: Yuuichi

Resistances: Yuuichi

Field Crafting: Yuuichi

Higher Strengths: Yuuichi

Lesser Weaknesses: Yuuichi

Feat Framework: Yuuichi

Scenario Proficiency: Yuuichi

Overall: Yuuichi no diffs(-) Hashimoto

Inspector Tsukumo from Massacre Happy End

Consultant Patrick Jane from The Mentalist

Psychiatrist Hannibal Lecter from Hannibal

Been seeing some tension regarding these guys here and there. One day they are high tier, next day they are fodder.

I'm actually curious why and for what reason, as I have watched/read the series for each of these

Ever heard the story of Icarus?

The boy who flew too close to the sun?

It's funny how IN COTE, Ayanokoji mentions this story and claims he won't be Icarus.

However, COTE fans don't seem to be aware. They aren't comfortable being mid tier, and are aiming for the top.

Bold strategy, let's see if it pays off for them. I've done what I can by simply calling them out.

The advantage COTE fans have over other series is....it hasn't ended 😂. That's literally it.

They pushed "___ vs Koji volumes" to it's limit and beyond, all for the sake of pushing the common thought to be:

"When a new volume comes out...Ayanokoji will be smarter!! 😱"

Forget Horikita being Potential girl. COTE in general is potential series. Koenji is potential man. Ayanokoji is potential man.

All that potential will be shown at the end of this dumpster fire show.

(I said I wouldn't be doing more COTE posts....but as for my post on Kokichi ..he's getting postponed indefinitely. There would need to be alot of writing done on him. And he's deliberately ambiguous so I'll just put him in "unsure" category for now. I just had to fill the space with some COTE slander instead of just laying low for too long. Might do a Kyoko appreciation post as I'm reading her novel atm)

I think people need to get off his back a bit for his last minute slip up.

I swear I DON'T see this dude ever getting wins when he didnt seem half bad to me.

There was an era where he was a Yuuichi rival then suddenly I'm seeing him get discussed like he's complete fodder 💀

Too bad Hanniballs is irrational fodder 😭

But nah fr I was just thinking of which SCD chars would be most scary irl and got a brief chill down my neck when I thought of these two.

Some might say this isnt hot cuz...well they literally won.

But I beg to differ.

The general consensus that surrounds "Near x Mello vs Light" is that Near x Mello just BARELY win...Extreme or very high diff even.

I firmly disagree.

This consensus is largely brought on by Near's statement that only together he and Mello can surpass L to defeat Kira.

But...let us not forget that Near x Mello...wasn't a thing until literal LAST SECOND. Posthumous even in Mello's case!

I'm not trying to take a piss on Light or anything, I'm just saying...had Near and Mello actually teamed up for a few months or so we'd see pretty different results compared to them just indirectly teaming up basically the day before the final confrontation.

I mean...if an INDIRECT POSTHUMOUS LAST MINUTE team up had Light on the floor begging not to die...imagine a full month long truce team up? Think about it.

Tldr; I think Near x Mello as a duo should be rated higher than it is. Just my piece. Strongest/smartest group in canon death note.

"Goldberg > Scofield"

"Ayanokoji > Baku"

"Takuya > Friend"

"Suzune >> Yuuichi"

"Suzune >>>> Light"

"Suzune >> Tasuku"

"Ryuen >>> Light"

"Mello >> Near"

"Nagumo > Yumeko"

"BB CGEW Naomi"

"Ayanokoji CGEW PM Hal"

"Suzune >>>> Senku"

"Ichika > Yokoya"

It just goes on and on...shit after shit. It's like Dax made this on his alt 😭

My answer would be....maybe.

There are good docs out there, and good doc makers.

People who have put time and effort into summarizing a character's feats without infecting it with exaggerations.

People who simply state what happened, how it influences the character's scaling and for anything not explained by the author...can give a summary of what is most likely to have happened. Said summary being based off whatever is less cognitively demanding and not contradictory to how the character is established to operate.

I think the group of people who have ruined docs are...primarily COTE glazers.

They all think the same.

Pretty much any bad docs can be in some way traced back to a COTE glazer one way or the other, and they tend to be advertised by COTE glazers just the same.

Might be the final COTE related post for a while.

Assuming he takes Ichinose's fodder ass place

Tldr; No-low diffs them all 😂

Knowledge application + tactical ability from Contraband Game clears all exams Kinu can think of. Low diff(+) at best

Beats Arisu in chess badly. Far better in tactical ability and should know the rules of chess. If not, 2 week prep is enough.

Doesn't get in physical altercations so no "physical diff". If forced to, has recordings or people nearby for evidence(High-school Yokoya level feat)

Humiliates or expels Ryuen without having to fight him

Aces math exam no diff 😂✌️ (only 10% of exam was college math level)

Aces mid terms no diff 💀 (advanced high-school level at best if Sudo or Ike are still here)

Beats class polls neg diff 💀💀💀🤣 (His contributions to exams negate any conflict)

Ignores Takuya, Ichika and Tsukishiro. (Not his problem)

Whooping people like Nagumo(who dominate others and create systematic rule) is literally a part of Akiyama's narrative and accomplishments, nothing new 😪

Expels Elevator boy the moment he becomes a threat using Sudo trial method or Ichika Y2V1 method(but better) 😭

I'll comfortably bet my reddit account on Koenji losing this way.

I know u/Permafrost-Il is lurking somewhere.

It's quite simple.

How did other antagonists lose in COTE?

Ryuen? Physical beatdown.

Arisu? Offscreen skill issue.

Nagumo? Physical beatdown.

Tsukishiro? Simping

Ichika? Simping

Takuya? Psychological targeting as a excuse to make him be dumb

Nagumo again? Offscreen skill issue

Arisu again? Simping

With this we can come to the conclusion that there are 4 modes to winning in COTE.

Physical beatdowns, Offscreen skill issue, becoming an idiot and simping

"But what about all the others times people win via strategy"?

The majority of these end in stalemates, as the writers for COTE are simply not smart enough to create a good strategic showdown. They peaked once by accident(X strategy) and have fell off since. And yes...it's by accident if after nearly a decade you can't come up with an event nearly as good in the story.

This is not a diss to them, as COTE isn't structured narratively around this per say...it's just people like Dax who make it seem like this. COTE is pseudo intellectualism in a nutshell. This is typical...as even in exams the writers just prop up grand long lists of rules yet never utilize them at their best.

Characters tend to win battles via barely decent strategy and then lose the war via the 4 modes listed above.

Anyways...given that Koenji is physically superior to Ayanokoji, physical beatdowns are off the table.

Koenji only simps for himself, so him simping for Ayanokoji is also off the table.

This leaves Koenji becoming an idiot or an offscreen skill issue.

It should be noted..that for the finales of year 1 and 2...Koji beat his opponents via offscreen skill issues. He beat Arisu in chess offscreen, and he beat Nagumo in a bunch of stuff offscreen.

So we can say with a decent level of probability..that the finale of year 3 will be another offscreen skill issue battle.

However I don't think Koenji will be the final combatant. It will be potential girl and friends. A team battle. As it fits the themes of the story.

So unless Kinugasa is shameless enough to do TWO offscreen skill issue battles in a row, then he's just gonna make Koenji become an idiot.

I'm going ALL IN on Koenji being psychologically targeted on his pride/character and that being used as an excuse for him having little to no shielding. A.k.a he'll be reduced to an idiot.

"Will Koenji even fight Ayanokoji? He didnt do shit in the last exam and we're a third through Year 3!"

Good question, whoever wondered that. I think there's a high chance he will. After all, Y2V12.5 was Kinu's assurance that they will face off.

He will then either be expelled or go running back to potential girl for help. This will result in Potential girl having her class, Ryuen, Ishigami and Koenji on her side. Dream team to beat Ayanokoji.

Given that sales + fan reception barely even dwindled after the horrible defeat of Takuya...Arisu and Nagumo, I assure you this is how it will go as Kinugasa has no reason to switch up on his basic formula that has been working for years.

Only finished 1 season for devil's plan and only a few eps for "The Genius". Really great so far.

Devil's plan is on Netflix

For "The Genius" I had to find off streaming sites, so just look those up

Bare minimum requirements: Contraband Game level comprehension 👀

Anyone surprised that COTE characters who can't handle a dose of real psychological warfare are that low?

Explanations for some ones people might find issue with.

Subaru - Go watch the first 3 seasons, and know it just gets worse.

Fang Yuan - Skinned his entire skin by himself, no sedatives. From scalp to foot. Many other feats but that first comes to mind

Batman/Joker - Pretty sure Batman has been tortured in every way possible or something.

Akiyama - Sold away his genius to destroy a company then served 5 years in prison with his reputation ruined, a fact even his teacher comments dismay on. Was gonna accumulate the debt of everyone in Liar Game and take all of their punishment in the black market/be killed or enslaved for life.

Only covered series I feel I have enough knowledge on.

Edit: Tokuchi should be higher, Kiruma should be higher, Fang Yuan could be higher, Ayanokoji......you thought lol 😂