u/FranksFluidsWolfCola

How much do you guys tweak your Sanwa sticks?

Do you keep it stock with a square gate? Maybe you upgraded the spring, actuator size, went with an octagon or squircle gate etc.

There is no wrong answer here obviously, just really curious about what pro players do but they never really talk about that stuff so I figured ask you guys instead.

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u/FranksFluidsWolfCola — 5 days ago
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Leverless are the best controller for fighting games.

Maybe you heard something like this to, but I hear this a lot. I think on paper they have a theoretical advantage, so the question is if this is true why is it that EVO is constantly dominated by pad and stick players, we just don't see leverless as the meta controller anywhere in the data. Sure there is a spread of all controller types in the top 10 or 15 spots but if leverless did provide a serious advantage you'd think we'd see them come in first place more often, even if only by accident. If you go back and look at all the winners for a game like SF6 for example, it's mostly pad and stick players overshadowing the first place spots. Go look it up, the data is very clear. Maybe it's different in other games, I've only looked at the data for SF6.

To be clear, I don't have any hate for leverless I own multiple and I just bought a pad to check that out but I mostly play stick. I just want to know where this assertion comes from that leverless is better when the real world data is showing the complete opposite. Do you think this is a combination of marketing and youtubers just trying to get clicks? I just don't know.

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u/FranksFluidsWolfCola — 7 days ago

How did leverless become so popular with Street Fighter 6?

I know there's a theoretical advantage of not having travel, but that doesn't seem to manifest in the data anywhere as a winning advantage. It seems in the last ten years or so the top players, or the people that came in first place at EVO were mostly pad or arcade sticks but the top ten showed a good mixture of multiple controllers to include leverless. Maybe I've got the data wrong, so please correct me if that's the case.

Is it just hype driven? Do you use leverless because you struggled with pads or arcade sticks before and leverless just so happens to be the one that worked for you or do you believe that you have an advantage over others.

I want to point out that I had to dig back and research this data because SF6 is my first SF game so I have no idea if this was the case with SF5 or SF4 so it's possible the data I collected is not correct, and maybe leverless is not as popular as it seems.

Edit: I grew up playing Street Fighter in the arcades up to the Alpha series so SF6 is my first street fighter game in a very, very long time. I never played SF3, 4, or 5.

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u/FranksFluidsWolfCola — 13 days ago

Sanjuks V3 that different than the Sanjuks V3 Premium?

Has anyone used either of these? I know the premium uses better materials, but does it truly feel that different? The premium is far more expensive, but I don't know if it feels that much different to justify the price discrepancy. I mostly play 2d fighters and prefer Japanese style sticks, Sanwa, Seimitsu etc.

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u/FranksFluidsWolfCola — 1 month ago