u/HatEnvironmental7560

Help me (7) improve my relationship with my friend (2)

I have a close friend whom I love dearly but sometimes struggle to connect with. The enneagram is the easiest way for me to conceptualize our differences because she is a very obvious 2 and I am a very obvious 7.

This person is genuinely lovely and makes me feel very comfortable and cared for but we just do not understand each other's orientation towards the world and we constantly end up in situations where one of us feels frustrated or misunderstood.

She thinks a lot about relationships, connection, emotions, mental health, trauma (she works in mental healthcare), family, helping people etc and her conversational style flips between sharing her feelings, telling stories about her life, and offering emotional support. I think a lot about how things work and why things are the way they are and what it would be like to be in some hypothetical situation. My conversational style is very much oriented towards sharing ideas or observations and discussing hypotheticals. We do both enjoy telling stories so that's one area in which we connect.

We frequently clash when I will share an idea and be met with what feels like an offer of emotional support, when what I'm looking for is someone to engage with my ideas and riff on them or offer their own ideas in return. I'm sure she often wants me to respond with emotions or emotional support but I don't. I don't think I have as much trouble identifying and talking about my feelings as some 7s but I don't really enjoy talking about them because I don't find it very interesting or engaging unless I'm in an emotionally charged situation where the feelings are very immediate. I sometimes feel a bit smothered by this dynamic where it's assumed that what I'm looking for is emotional support when I actually just want intellectual connection. I don't need someone hyping me up all the time and constantly telling me my feelings are valid and I'm awesome, I just want to have an interesting conversation.

My friend and I get along well when doing fun activities together or when we have something to talk about that involves relationships, people we both know, feelings, or mental health so I feel like when we do connect we're connecting in the 2 realm but we are almost never able to connect in the 7 realm. I guess maybe the fun activities part is in the 7 realm but I'm thinking about conversational/intellectual connection in the head center.

Are we just like fundamentally incompatible people? I really care about her and value our friendship, I just want to feel more understood and less frustrated lol.

Does anyone have any advice?

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u/HatEnvironmental7560 — 6 days ago

I posted some lipstick drapes on r/OliveMUA yesterday and it got me thinking. I've found hundreds of reddit posts about makeup for muted fair olives yet there's almost no discussion of what it looks like to be a fair olive and NOT be muted. It seems like some people believe all olives are muted. I found a couple posts asking for examples of saturated fair olive skin and none of them had any useful responses.

Based on how a lot of the frequently recommended lip colors for fair olives look on me (way too light, they make my lips disappear, or I look dead) I'm starting to suspect I'm not actually muted. I've seen the skin color chart and while it makes sense to me in theory I have seen few, if any, examples of saturated fair olive skin online.

If I had to guess I'd say Timothee Chalamet might be a fair saturated olive but I'm not 100% sure. His skin can look either bright white or almost lemon yellow depending on the lighting, which is pretty similar to how I look - very yellow as opposed to gray-green, but also clearly olive rather than peachy/golden yellow. He's a dude though so not exactly a good reference for makeup and I can't think of a female celebrity with the same skin tone.

What do you guys think? Is it possible for fair olives to not be muted? If so, what does that look like in real life? Are you a saturated fair olive? If so pls drop your makeup recs 🙏🏻

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u/HatEnvironmental7560 — 24 days ago