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Just asking

I've been thinking lately about the similarities between Tyler's Cherry Bomb and JPEG's ER , like how these two albums represent the most divisive project of their discographies , the chaotic production on some of the songs ( Like YEN and CHERRY BOMB ) , and the reception the album's got after their release.

The only difference is that , for Tyler , Cherry Bomb represented the end of his old , edgy persona from the Odd Future days into the Tyler we know today.

While for JPEG , it unfortunately represents for now his regression as an artist , and we're now waiting for his next move on his next project , feature , whatever you believe is his next step.

And it's not like he hasn't changed , since :

- He acted normally in the uproxx interview.

- He ( debatidly ) released Hi-fi , which was perceived very well by general audiences ( and yes , I'm getting the ratings from AOTY and reviews on other platforms )

- And he released Valentine's Day Freestyle , which was also received well.

Also other stuff I forgot like his production on Maxo Kream's new tape and whatnot...

And the up and coming ER tour , and his feature on the new Denzel Mixtape , etc...

Hopefully he'll transition into his new era , where he can finally show his authenticity and uniqueness once again , just like Tyler with " Flower Boy ".

But alas , is ER JPEGMAFIA's Cherry Bomb in your opinion ?

Honest Thoughts :

I mean....

I don't mind him being recognized for contributing to the foundation of Greater Lebanon.

Sa3ad l 3alam bil maje3a w ken dod l ta2ifiye , and he paved the way for the apparition of the modern lebanese state ( whether it's a good or bad thing , ento bit2ariro ).

And before you jump into conclusions , yes , two things can be true at once.

And in this case , him being the found father of the modern lebanese state and its borders , and him letting the French apply the " mandate " ( which is a proper way of saying colonization ) onto us for another 23 years before gaining our real independence.

And as a Howayek myself ( and yes , I'm related to him and other Howayeks like Saadallah Howayek ) , I realized that the deal he struck while in France before the proclamation of Greater Lebanon ( when he met the PM of France ) , resembles the one that the state just signed in 2026.

Both of them have a strong correlation with the idea of a sunk cost fallacy.

And in both cases , we needed to sign the deal , not because it was actually good , but because it guarantees a much better outcome , even if in the first stages , we'll suffer a lot.

Just how the modern state is trying to pick up the burden of Hezbollah's moughamara into the abyss , we unfortunately needed to pick up where the Ottomans left us , in the dirt , by of course them indirectly and directly causing the maje3a.

And I want to quote a small phrase he said , a few months before his passing : "Both national feeling and religion make it an obligation for you to respect and love everybody whatever may be his belief. Reason leads you to fraternize with the person you live with under the same sky and on the same land."

Also another shout-out to Sheikh Mustafa Naja , who was also present in the declaration.

Long Live Lebanon ! 🇱🇧🇱🇧

Ah yes , the dude who influenced the UG by far , Carti , was of course in the underground himself.... ( But I don't know to what extent I can call him underground , I'll continue the series in his Ca$h Carti days sooner than later... )

My thoughts on YM :

Honestly , not bad for a 15-16 year old Carti !

The beats vary from normal Atlanta trap beats to Odd Future type beats and cloud rap influences. ( which screams 2012 so fucking much ngl , I like old UG rap albums since they really reflect the times , like a time machine , like the " I ♥️ my haters " merch )

"Steez " and " Van Go " are so fucking good , from the production to the flows , with some highlights like the opener " 36 villainz " and " Paper Cha$in' ".

Unfortunately , the lows are extremely shown within the lyrics and half ass beats , which varies from the overly narcissistic ( iykyk 😏 ) bars to him doing skating puns , and the voice annoys me too , granted , he was still a teenager and it was ( technically ) his second ever mixtape , released after THC : The High Chronicles , but he could've at least refined his voice , oh , and " Zombies " is really fucking bad , alongside unfortunately , " Blue Cry$tal$ " ( idk why AOTY users hyped it up )

Sometimes the mixing feels way off , like on " Steez " too , on the first verse , you could barely hear him , and after a small build up , he bursts up with that same mentioned voice of his ( but I don't know if it was just me since I wasn't using headphones when listening to YM )

And finally , the last con of YM is , these fuckass skits , and I think Carti wanted to do the whole horrorcore schtick of early Tyler The Creator , but thank god , they aren't that long.

Overall , production carries alot , flows and lyrics are between half assed and sometimes clever , and the skits are too fucking boring to actually listen through them completely.

I'll continue my journeys through his whole catalog later.

Next up , Pizza And Codeine by Raider Klan Mainstay , Chris Travis!!!! ( Which I've just listened to ).

Best Track : Van Go

Worst Track : Zombies

So what are your thoughts on Young Mi$fit ?

My honest thoughts :

The album , while being really outstanding in the production process , isn't good in the lyrical department though.

The features were also alright , never goodbye did a fantastic job while Fakemink on the song " 5 " was really underutilized throughout the track.

It just feels like Proxy , who likes to proclaim that he's an experienced producer ( in an interview ) , didn't want to do his own thing and instead bit off what his idols already utilized in their own albums ( Kanye , JPEG , Tyler...) , while masquerading it as something fresh in the already bloated UG scene.

Mind you , these thoughts come from a guy who already liked many of his singles , from THC abuser , to Catfish , to even his underground cypher's song , and who was somewhat disappointed when listening to TH.

And I already know that the guy is extremely talented and has potential , after watching his FL tutorials on his channel !

Also , adding to the production part , some of the songs had a clear and distinguished structure ( with some beat switches here and there , like the song Misery ).

And some felt like a half assed recreation of the usual percatric/2slimey type beats ( Stars ) , and a clusterfuck of different sounds trying to sound experimental , when in reality , it falls flat on its face ( Atlanta ) , not in a AMHAC " organized chaos " way , but more in a " mashing up different samples and sounds until shit's work " way.

Overall , I hope that Proxy can revitalize his sound even more on his upcoming projects , and a small unpopular take :

But I would rather see Proxy as a singles/EP artist instead of an album artist , which I'm not trying to downplay his artistry , there's nothing wrong with being a singles artists , but I've noticed that he's more focused when it comes to singles and EPs rather than in big body's of work like TH.

Favorite song : Misery

Worst song : Atlanta

So what is your honest opinion on this album ?

Or at least is humble to a point. ( other than jermaine , we get it guys )

Cuz , in the wave of Narcissist Fakeminks , Racist Matt Proxies and Pedophile Duwaps/Jaydeses , I'm trying to find more slayrs.

So please give me some that you found to be humble/not too egotistical ( can be in music form or in his/her/their online footprint ).

I don't think they even want to manage and solve our problems , it's like a blessing in disguise sarahatan , the only thing keeping us together.

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Divided we stand , united we fall 😭😭

Case in point.

Many people associated in far left spaces are criticizing most of the Lebanese stances ( or more accurately , it's government ) for not engaging in a war that , quite frankly , is not even ours.

Many of them also begin bashing us and call us " ziobots " when we refuse to die for a foreign agenda , and collaborate with the Iranian colo-

...

Forgive me , I meant , the " Resistance " group , Hezbollah , to defeat the even shitier Zionist enemy that was provoked by that group , and started the war , sorry , WARS , that they are still engaging to this very day.

Unfortunately , many of our diaspora is supporting the idea of dying for a foreign cause because it suits their backwards ideology , AKA , the Dearborn Michigan mfs who'll probably piss their pants when hearing the MK's noise from a 1 mile radius , because they didn't live to experience war , let alone fight in one.

And it's sad to see that certain individuals are falling for the opposite too , calling us to normalize ties with another enemy of ours ( Israshit ) , because " They party like us guys ! , right ? , Oh , ignore the dead bodies 😀 "

Guess what ?

We hate both of them !

One for commiting mass murder , massacres and genocide on women and children , and the other for indoctrinating these same ones by declaring their martyrdom as victory. ( Which is hilarious , since for them , ANYTHING is an intisar. ) , and letting them die !

And no.

I'm not a fascist 2ouwet or Kata2eb supporter , I'm not in the FPM , I'm not in jnoud al rab , and I'm certainly not a Zionist.

I'm just a regular anti-sectarian Lebanese that doesn't want his country to fail even more because we bowed down to either of them.

I'm sorry that the world isn't black or fucking white.

I'm sorry for the Far-Right because I don't believe that we should remain a Christian majority land by commiting a Rwanda 94' on the other sects , since it'll be our demise.

I'm sorry to the zionists that I'm a decent human being with THOUGHTS and EMOTIONS , and that I have at least some kind of empathy for the non-combatants , man women and children , who died indirectly in harb al isnad , from any of the sects living in modern day Lebanon.

And , I'm sorry for the Far-Left and Hezbots because I don't want to die for the accelerationist ideology of wilayat al faqih , and the twelver shia movement.

I'm not saying that criticism is not allowed when discussing a country , hell , every country has its flaws and pros ( Even Japan , I know , I know ), and I'd rather die for my country and culture than die to any of our zo3ama , robbers and reformed warlords called " politicians " , who stole from us our livelihoods and future.

But...

Generalizing our people's stance , and categorizing and stratifying us into Israeli sympathizers , shows how much uneducated mfs like to lecture us and virtue signal for some internet points , and

I

LOATHE

THESE PEOPLE.

However , I'm not against anyone not learning any country's history , but it should be done for a good purpose and in great spirit, because if we keep doing this to not only Lebanon , but other countries with complex historys ( Haiti , Myanmar , South Sudan , Philippines... ) , then it's in bad faith tbh.

Although I understand too that history is always written by the victors.

TL;DR : Let's not make these types of mfs have any kind of voice in igniting fights from the comfort of their own homes , plus most of them remind me of the Iranian diaspora.

Oh , and leave out the " Iranian Dick sucking " part , if they do that , and do some rebranding here and there ( y ghayro 3alamon l kharanta3iye taba3on ) , I'll believe their cause.

And , projecting our actual opinions and interests by representing a Lebanese resistance , instead of reiterating wtv the fuck IsraelGPT gives them , or big daddy mojtaba.

But that's extremely unlikely , considering that if they don't receive money from Iran , they'll probably go apeshit , or they're going to do a whole 180 and masquerade itself as a resistance for another minority group just to keep on their ideology. ( Hezbollah lal l soud l lebnaniye masalan .... Oh wait , we already have that , it's called the black panthers. )

Since Na3im Qassem proclaimed last night that " it's the right for the people to overthrow the government " , then when are you going outside to actually do what he promised ?

Or are you going the same old schtick of :

1. t2awso barra

2. Planting other political party flags

3. And chanting the usual slogans ?

It's the flows that rub me a lot , why is he doing a spiritual lyrical miracle azz flow.

Just curious ...

Manne racist shbb 😭