u/Igavein_678

Honestly recent discussion around 'Soulmates' has really just upset me, and people who call this show a bromance just because they don't put a label on their relationship is just ridiculous. This was a show about two men in love simple as that. It wasn't a bromance. To call it that is just disrespecting the craft that was this show. I can't even enjoy it because I'm being swallowed by people mislabelled it.

It really shows what kind of bl fan you are, when you completely mislabel something so obviously queer just because there isn't any kiss scene/ NC scene. Not all stories will have a happily ever after. Not all stories centred on queer love will have an established relationship, that doesn't necessarily mean that these characters aren't in love. This isn't queer baiting. To disregard this show because of some ridiculous standard of 'there was no kiss' or 'they didn't label their relationship' is just ridiculous. I've seen people say that they even got emotional and even cried at the ending but it wasn't a bl. Did we watch the same show? This was not queer baiting. This wasn't a bromance. This was bl. This was a queer love story. It was a tragic tale of two men in love that didn't get their happily ever after.

"I found someone I care about, i found someone I want to protect and cherish more then anything, I just want to make him happy" - HE IS TALKING ABOUT RYU!! I've seen people use this scene as a defence of them no loving eachother but please it is so obvious who he is talking about.

"If you are really here right now, I think i wanna live a little longer" - Johan found acceptance in his decision and his fate, but seeing Ryu again made him want to live longer. I also was angry in Johans decision but I understood why he made that choice, as I feel Ryu does. I wouldn't want to spend our remaining moments in anger even if in my heart I would be angry at all the years we've missed because of that decision.

"I didn't want YOU to see me like this" Johan to Ryu in the mud scene and then we follow this with that hug, then he asks him to come live with him in Japan. Then we get that shot of Sua just watching them in the distance, please what more do people need.

He kept Johans drawing. He framed it. HE FRAMED IT. Just as Johan is leaving the camera shows a shot of him staring at it.

They sign the marriage certificate for Sumiko and Seiichi, Sumiko asks Johan to "take care of Ryu". Johan leaves the apartment "take care of Ryu" he says to Sumiko. I feel like both Sua and Sumiko knew what they had, and they gave both boys the space to figure it out. It was up to them and its THEIR timeline. I think the boys had sm going on that solidifying their relationship wasn't a priority to them, they knew what they felt, they knew that they felt comfortable in it, and it really is their own timeline. But sometimes things come up that mess with that, its the reality of life really. Life is short, you don't know how long you have eachother. Doesn't mean that they didn't love eachother.

Their love was so transparent, someone online described the show as watching your friends. I feel like that description fit this show so well, it felt like watching strangers live their lives and I felt blessed I got to witness it. I felt attached to all the characters and I really didn't want to come on here and defend the show because why is this even a discussion atp. It's just upsetting that under each edit you'll see people commenting "bromance" "not bl". BL isn't bl just because there is smut okay, its a story centred on a love between a man and a man. This was that plain and simple, you may not have liked it but that doesn't mean you can mislabel it into something it so obviously isn't. A lack of media literacy will truly be the death of cinema because how could people have missed something so obvious.

I want a hogwarts era, Harry sad and idk not at his best. He can only talk to draco, long fics preferably cus I've been in a slump and I'm hoping this takes me out of it. If not hogwarts era idm adult era minus professor draco and harry

I just had this random thought and just wanted to ask because I myself started off with MDZS and haven't explored much of the genre as I'm in a reading slump and have been for awhile. I gotta wait for it to kick in and I'll probably binge read a bunch of novels hahaha on a random night.

I've found recently that I'm so protective of danmei and censored and uncensored Chinese bl dramas. As someone who was there during the cancellation of addicted (ohmypoorheart) and was among the bazillion of fans watching watching revenged love while it airing nervous for its cancellation (i remember when they delayed it due to some re-editing and fans were worried we would get a censored version of the show or it would just be cancelled). I watched the untamed while it was airing and was there during the 227 incident and XZ (he deserved sm better truly). I honestly love bromance and admire those that continue to adapt danmei despite the restrictions that have gotten stricter as time goes on.

Censored chinese bl dramas do an fantastic job of telling a love story in spite of the censorship, the love between the pairing is so genuine and evident to anyone who has eyes. The main characters are obviously in love and as viewers we would want more, but also to take such a risk against your own industry is so admirable to me. The censorship hasn't stopped people from telling queer stories, and yeah its sad when it gets shelved or censored but it speaks to the human spirit how people still continue to find loop holes. And honestly censorship doesn't make the bond any less valued because as someone who watched the untamed too many times to count haha, I wish to have a love as beautiful as WWX and XZ. Also it gives fans the opportunity to read the danmei and experience the story in its original form.

The amount of series that have been filmed but shelved is so sad and I hope we get to see them one day. I hope those that are fans of bl do some research into the queer censorship in China because it will really just give you a new perspective. I hope people are aware that the uncensored chinese bls they see airing rn are done through loopholes. Its a huge risk because actors working in bl have been known to be blacklisted by the industry so any small success like how the actors from Sammy children day are seen interacting is such a strong step forward and oh I'm so proud to see it. As there was a time actors from the untamed wouldn't even be allowed to be at the same events, like when was the last XZ and WYB interaction yall. But idk if that was largely due to the 227 incident.

This is when I've come to realise I'm so protective of chinese bl. I really wish we can get to a place where shows can be released without loopholes and we can just enjoy the hard work of the actors, directors, and just everyone involved and people don't have to be censored for their work they produce.

Honestly I wrote this very sleep deprived and just to put this out there, please lmk your thoughts though. I always wonder if I am in the minority cus yeah I don't think I've seen anyone have this discussion before.

Edit: After a discussion with someone in my comments I realised that chinese bromance isn't the right description for LA censored dramas. These dramas don't have the luxury to be bl so they are censored bl stories. So I'm so grateful I started this conversation and have took something away from this. So I've edited this to reflect those changes cus it's important to recognise that censorship is what distinguishes chinese bl from 'bromance' from other countries like Thailand or Korea who don't face the same restrictions. So wouldn't the correct term be censored bl...

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