u/Immediate_Arm3186

Debunking the free will argument

I've heard many people arguing against the free will thing but I noticed this specific point that I haven't seen mentioned before. For me the greatest evidence that God does not care about free will is Eden. Adam and Eve had no true free will in Eden because they did not understand the concept of evil apart from simply disobeying God by eating the fruit. When Christians talk about free will, it comes up in ideas like murder, robbery, etc. Adam and Eve did not understand the concept of those things and therefore could not do them, and as such had no free will in those ideas, yet God was UPSET when they learned about those things after eating the fruit. They lived without shame, anger, hatred, any of those feelings until they ate the fruit, and so they did not have the ability to feel those things. But God was UPSET when they gained those feelings. He was upset when they gained the ability to understand evil and therefore to make the choice for evil. So either God set them up for failure (placing Eden there with the intention of Adam and Eve disobeying him) or he was willing to live in a world where humans had a limited (not free) will for an indefinite amount of time (Adam and Eve/descendants obey him but never learn about evil). Given his behavior in Genesis it is not absurd to say that, following their own Bible, evil exists because God put it there and chooses to keep it there.

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u/Immediate_Arm3186 — 3 days ago
▲ 51 r/atheism

Going to get baptized soon, just upset

I'm getting baptized next week for this event called "Baptize the World" on May 24th (some of u mightve heard of it). I had no way of backing out, originally tried to avoid it but got pressured by literally EVERYONE. Ik it doesnt actually mean anything and I do feel better than before knowing that I don't have to accept it internally but I wish it wouldnt happen. Sometimes i just wonder how many other ppl at my church secretly dont believe. I hope i can escape eventually, and in the future i can spend my sundays doing ANYTHING else 😭

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u/Immediate_Arm3186 — 4 days ago

Going to get baptized soon, just upset

I'm getting baptized next week for this event called "Baptize the World" on May 24th (some of u mightve heard of it). I had no way of backing out, originally tried to avoid it but got pressured by literally EVERYONE. Ik it doesnt actually mean anything and I do feel better than before knowing that I don't have to accept it internally but I wish it wouldnt happen. Sometimes i just wonder how many other ppl at my church secretly dont believe. I hope i can escape eventually, and in the future i can spend my sundays doing ANYTHING else 😭

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u/Immediate_Arm3186 — 4 days ago
▲ 11 r/atheism

Places/spaces with a higher ratio of atheists?

I'm trying to connect with more atheists and non-religious people but it seems like everywhere I go everybody is religious. Have you guys found spaces that tend to have a higher chance of meeting an atheist?

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u/Immediate_Arm3186 — 9 days ago

Places/spaces with a higher ratio of atheists?

I'm trying to connect with more atheists and non-religious people but it seems like everywhere I go everybody is religious. Have you guys found spaces that tend to have a higher chance of meeting an atheist?

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u/Immediate_Arm3186 — 9 days ago

Extremely happy with my schedule! (1st year BA Psych)

Had lots of trouble with registration this morning but luckily everything worked out and I got all my desired classes!

u/Immediate_Arm3186 — 10 days ago
▲ 39 r/fasting

This is my fourth 24h+ fast. For the first three they were around a day and a half. This time I challenged myself to two days and I felt so good that I extended the fast so I'll be doing at least three. (This is day 3.) I was feeling a bit dizzy and exhausted starting this afternoon, thank goodness i looked thru the subreddit cuz i had no idea i was supposed to be consuming salt! I'm about to go have some rn

u/Immediate_Arm3186 — 21 days ago