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Here’s to acknowledging our faults, mending our mistakes, and striving to give Everyone their slice of The Dream 🫡

Here’s to Hopefully Improving

After this latest issue, I’m fully convinced Joe Kelly GETS Peter and Crew.

-Peter was emotionally poignant, intelligent and capable, and he even has a satisfying mini-arc of processing throughout the issue.

-The Vulture was a credible threat and Tombstone was wonderfully subtle but memorable and deep

-The Art speaks for itself-Gleason is Exemplary 🤌

- The Narration Boxes feel reminiscent of Stan Lee and Spidey comics past.

-That Gerry Conway Easter Egg was subtle but really touching.

It’s not a perfect issue, but damn it’s a good one. I understand people are varied on ASM these days but this, imo? Great Stuff. I’m for it. If they’re doing this well by #1000, I have high hopes.

And on that note, if he does, does he treat it like the Spider-Verse, ie, another Tuesday or, considering his offering to “keep it” to Bruce, is it something he might wanna at least ATTEMPT to act against ?

Would he then just get to exist remembered as Peter and have to “reintroduce” Spider-Man to the World? Like, people might remember some “bug guy” that helped the Avengers but they couldn’t place his name or something, and Peter would have to just “re-make” a name for himself again?

Let me be clear- misused, it can be tiresome like everything. Used properly though? It’s the Ultimate Experience for fans AND creators.

Not only has it given masterpieces like “Into the Spider-Verse”, but it’s also basically a license for creators to do whatever with the material. That also means, basically everything is backdoor canon, so everyone’s interpretation is essentially valid, while respecting other interpretations. How many other fandoms have that kind of in canon acceptance?

In conclusion, while I definitely think they should utilize it differently, I definitely think the Spider-Verse/Multiverse adds to the lore positively overall. Anyone else?

A comic book-y fun gangster villain, an ultra grounded human monster, or a healthy mix of both?

Can we stop with the “um, actually” for these movies? Like, I’m not saying YOU have to personally enjoy them- Art is Subjective, of course- but are we really gonna pretend these films don’t “get” Spider-Man? Yeah, it’s not panel to screen, but the interpretation of these characters is still there

Tobey may be leaning more on the Bullied geek and quiet moping aspects of Peter, but that’s STILL Peter

Kirsten Dunst’s writing might be the most lacking, but she’s still decently portraying MJ’s “mask wearing” and being a survivor of abuse

Rosemary Harris as Saintly Aunt May? Perfect casting, same as J K Simmons as Jonah

Peter spends the damn near the whole trilogy as a college student working at the Bugle alongside being Spider-Man aka the majority of Spidey’s status quo prior to 2010.

The Spidey Arch Enemy Triad? (Goblin, Dr Octopus, Venom) All here

New York is an actual character here, and not just a backdrop

Most of all, these films do something the comics have struggled with lately- they portray the actual nobility and heroism of Spidey. Like, he’s an effective and inspiring superhero here, and that heroism feels ripped directly from a Lee, Ditko, Romita comic.

In conclusion, I understand people wanting to be skeptical looking back- history can often be unflattering. That said, I think You’re safe here- these still hold up. The others are also great- Into the Spider-Verse might be the best- but there’s a reason this trilogy is also still high regarded.

Because his whole purpose, as a superhero or otherwise, stems from him learning the Lesson about Responsibility. Henceforth, it makes sense that his entire life, he’s now, consciously or not, teaching and enacting on what he learned. He became who he was from a lesson, so him teaching makes a lot of sense, least in my opinion 🤷‍♂️

Hear me out.

Both formed out of street crime in some way

Both wealthy to the point of ridiculousness

Both trained to peak physical/mental Form, traveling around the world and returning to their city

Both are two normal men who regularly challenge super people and survive, by either planning ahead or sheer willpower

Both “rule” their city by reputation but also aren’t afraid to dirty their own hands, if the need arises.

Now obviously, they’re both on different sides of justice, but I don’t think this theory is necessarily too out there🤷‍♂️

There’s a Metaphor somewhere Here😅

I know this line maligned for being hokey, but hear me out- I think that’s KINDA by design.

Here’s the thing- Batman is still a superhero.

End of the day, even in the “realistic” World of this film, Batman is, at this point, the closest thing to the “Square Jawed Do Gooder” who’s supposed “always save the day” and, let’s be real- he did.

Yeah, okay, Fallout, how’d he escape, yadda, yadda , he still DID IT. He pulled off the classic day save, hence why, when in his “Final Showdown”, he’s steadfast, no nonsense, and straightforward.

He’s gonna stop Bane. Plain and Simple.

Look, I’ll be real that this movie ain’t my favorite- it’s fine, but I think the first two are better- but this is HANDS DOWN my favorite line from Bale’s Batman.

Even in this World governed by mostly realism, the altruism and moral vanguard of a superhero still exists. I find that really compelling 🤷‍♂️

We all want Peter to evolve. If it were to be either leaning into his scientific abilities or his powers evolving, or both, what would be your preference, why, or how would you incorporate both?

In the (lengthy) title. This Batman supposedly had a full career before we saw him, including Robin. By that metric, who do You think was the weirdest opponent he faced?

Art from BvS and Arkham Asylum Video Game Respectively

Like, I know change doesn’t stick enough in Peter’s World (ironically) but we’ve never really seen another application of these particular skills for Peter. Not to mention, unlike Martial Arts (RIP Way of the Spider), these seem more applicable to everyday life, at least imo. I dunno, You think Peter can still puts these on his resume?

I’ve never really gotten “The Man of Tomorrow” moniker for Supes. Like, shouldn’t it be the Man FOR Tomorrow? His whole thing is fighting for a better Future. Didn’t the title come from when Krypton was supposed to be a race of super people, or am I misremembering that? Either way, our that’s the case, now that Krypton is not portrayed that way, would this tagline still holdup? Like I said in the beginning, this is a nitpick and not a big deal, but I guess I’m just trying to pick everyone’s brain on this.😅

Call it Random Encounter in either of their cities? Who got it? No prep, just a general encounter- a standoff, if You will? Does Batman get away or does Robocop make the arrest?