Some Thoughts on Vibecoding

Hey All,

I'm the creator of r/vibecodingcommunity, i have shared this in my community and got lot of interesting comments so sharing it here as well.

for context - I've been involved in the vibecoding scene both online and offline - hosting dozens of hackathons and joining many events.

Here's my two cents on where the money is and the current state of vibecoding, from my lens (unfiltered).

Around 70% of vibe-coded app builds are not serious business apps. They're fun games or personal software. Some try to build a product, but it dies almost as quickly as it's built - no distribution strategy, tokens burned in the process.

Vibecoding has significantly lowered the barrier to entry, so more and more personalized software has emerged. The next ~25% are internal apps - meant to replace software you already pay for, automate a workflow, or run an agency.

These are pretty much built by people who know one area of tech and use AI to compensate in the others. For example: a data scientist building a mobile app, or a front-end developer building a backend.

This remaining 5% is the interesting part - because that's where the money is. These are people who already have a relationship with a business, or with internal players and vendors. They use vibecoding as a tool to pitch an idea, get traction or a contract, and then build.

Previously these people pitched on PowerPoint. Now that's been replaced by a simple vibe-coded app that demonstrates the idea.

A few real examples from just the last couple of weeks:

  • We helped someone who had sold a fairly basic sales-analytics platform for around $200K. He came to us to build the proper software from the ground up.
  • An existing entrepreneur - who has run 100+ franchise stores in the past - raised €2 million just by showing the vibe-coded idea. He already had a great track record; he just needed the funds to build his next business, and he wants us to make the software more polished.
  • An employee at an 8-person business built an internal tool using Base44. He's from a non-technical background. They didn't pay us to build the software - they'll build it themselves - they hired us to scaffold a harness, review their work, and give them direction. They're using this internal tool across many franchises, and passing a share of the profit on to us.

All I'm trying to say is this: on the community you see people building a lot of software and tools. A real software developer quickly clocks that these are vibe-coded apps - not much taste, questionable software quality, often useless. And that's true.

But the real money is not where you can see it. The real money is inside businesses, and it's often being put to work by people who already have the network and the connections to make it count.

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 13 hours ago

Contributions to VibeCodingWiki

Hey All,

VibeCodingWiki is up for few months and been developed with small group of contributors.

Now we are opening up for communities to contribute.

link - VibeCodingWiki .com

some ground rules-

- if you want to promote your app - Submit app is the section. Please do not edit man pages - you will get blocked.

- Feel free to contribute on any pages where information is valueable to community.

- goal is this wiki for consolidate all info related to vibecoding and bring ecosystem together.

- also goal is make this wiki very useful for vibecoders and covers learning , news , tips and tools to help them develop their skills.

- open for feedback/suggestions

cheers.

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 14 hours ago

Whatsapp group of selected non tech founders.

Hey All,

I am a non-tech founder myself .

I went though learning curve of building with AI.

So I created this small WhatsApp group - we already have a few founders , and want to share if someone wants to join.

It is exclusive for non-tech founders so people who had a tech background please do not apply/approach.

Looking forward to connect and learn with like-minded founders

Comment or DM if interested.

Cheers

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 16 hours ago

Marketplace to find technical cofounder

Hey All,

Sharing a platform of 900+ technical cofounders.

Originally geared towards vibecoders who wants experts help but this platform has increasingly been used by non tech founders to find technical partners.

Platform is free and do not take any kind of platform/ service fees.

Vibecodefixers dot ai

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 2 days ago

Getting your App fixed

Hey All,

Would like to showcase the product we build last year-

Its free marketplace !!

Vibecodefixers dot ai

No platform fees like fiverr or upwork.

Link in comment below.

We helped more than 100 vibecoders already and you can use it too if -

Build a vibecoded app snd noy sure of its secure - get a security audit by one of 900+ experts.

want to continue building on tool you using but need an expert buddy to steer you. Use ' hire a buddy ' feature.

Not sure how mich it cost to get your problem fix - drop your problem - get a fixed quote.

Or buy one of fixed packages based on what suits you.

900 experts ready to help ship your idea to world.

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 2 days ago

Are you preparing for next 6 months into the AI future !!

sharing my raw thoughts on where we headed in short term ,love to hear the community on this too.

Qwen 3.8 27B is 51 on Artificial Analysis benchmark - just couple of points higher than Opus 4.8Max

thats frontier level model running on you machine.

let that sink in.

It's a first sign of what we thought would be obvious.

"models intelligent enough to run on edge devices"

So the question is where it leads us? so many use cases are going to get unlocked. from controlling the daily apps like powerpoint or word , to connecting IoT devices in hardware and running automations. it will be just new way to speak to your computer and get work done.

Not that it doesn't exist now, claudecode is pretty much close version of it, but now the normal people get to experience what a software developer has been experiencing for more than a year now.

That presents a unique opportunity for developers to build software tools and services that can run locally with these models - from desktop apps to running automations.

No wonder Mac Mini's and soon Mac Studio ( if apple wakes up to ship them) are the new 'always on" devices.

While on one hand, the open source models are unlocking the local AI.

Completely new trend in opposite direction is gathering steam.

Remote machines , sandboxes and remote computers.

Agents are now running in cloud in sandboxes , in an attempt to put a leash on the AI, and partially also to make sure the company's "alpha" does not goes to the model providers.

Software factories like 8090 are specifically focusing on helping clients securing the proprietary information and the core business logic by running the local models or fine tuning the local models on frame or secure cloud.

Harnesses are having their moments too.

Virtually every big company is trying to make their own harness - a coding agent, context, memory, MCP, skills ,tools is worth investing into. good example is Perplexity computer.

Companies also started publishing their internal tools as open source. Cloudflare did this with Cloudflare OS.

You can take this OSS - off the shelf product and make something of your own like I did -

yantraos .dev

Companies who had systems in place pre AI with regards to infra Netlify/vercel/cloudflare are now reaping the benefit of this new wave of agentic AI , where the persona of a software developer is no longer traditional software engineering background , but also this new developers coming from non-tech background and are expert in their own domains building softwares.

Case in point is Netlify Agent runner, While the initial AI gateway served frontier models - with the integration of open code, I have access to hundreds of open source models - cheapest to expensive text model to vision models - unlocks a huge potential.

simple fun App I built with it three months back now with open code integration built the same app in 61 credits 🤯.

To give some context, you receive 300 credits free when you join as a new user , it's insane how fast the cost of building software is dropping !!

Traditional softwares are dying or at least changing in nature, companies realized that they no longer needed the full featured list of software to serve their customers in more meaningful ways.

You can take the goodies from the software that are more important or relevant for your particular use and build your own.

Github is a classic case. here are 2 announcements today.

cursor has announced cursor origin, its own code hosting platform today.

Netlify CEO Matt Biilmann shared - " Netlify is now a git host"

Building software is much more easier than few years back - companies realizing that traditional software can be easily replaced by building something of your own that can serve your primitives better.

Dealing with recent customers of one of my company vibecodefixers, its clear small, medium businesses no longer seeking to buy softwares but to have people set up a system so they can churn their own software and automation out of it.

They want you to set up a harness - context, memory, tools, skills, MCP and other external connectors or system to build agents , a system which can easily do browser use at the same time deploy apps in production.

A mini FDE role - I would say in the making.

Someone who can stitch the system together, deploy in local AI - will lead the next wave of AI explosion.

I hope you assemble right skillset and mental model to be ready for it.

I wish you good luck, put your seatbelts on !!

Cheers

Swatantra

u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 2 days ago

Some thoughts on vibecoding

Hey All,

I'm the moderator of this community and have been involved in the vibe coding community online and offline

Hosted dozens of hackathons and joined many events

Here is my two cents on where the money is and current state of vibecoding from my lens ( unfiltered)

  1. 70% of the vibe-coded app builds are not serious business apps. Just fun games or personal software.

Some try to build a product , bit it dies as quickly as its built due to no distribution strategy. Burning token in the process

  1. vibe coding has significantly lowered the barrier of entry so more and more personalized software has emerged. So next 25% Are internal apps intended to replace the software you use or to automate a workflow or agencies.

Pretty much built by people who know one area of tech and then use AI to compensate in other areas.

Example: a data scientist building an mobile app or a front-end developer building a backend

  1. this remaining 5% is interesting because that is where the money is. These are people who have an existing relationship with the business or internal players/vendors. They use vibeecoding as a tool to pitch their ideas and then get traction/contract and then build.

Previously these people used to pitch on PowerPoint but now that's got replaced by a simple vibe coded app to demonstrate the idea

In the last couple of weeks we helped someone who has sell a sales analytics platform which was quite basic for 200K , now he used us to make the proper software from the ground up.

An existing business entrepreneur who has more than 100 franchise stores in the past has raised €2 million just showing the vibecoded idea. He already has an amazing track record. All he wanted the funds to build his next business. He wants us to make the software more polished.

An employee of a 8 team small business has built internal using Base44. He is from a non-tech background and they paid us to scaffold a harness instead of building software for them, they will build the software themselves but they hire us as someone who can review and give them directions. They are using this internal tool in many franchises. So passing on the profit sharing to us.

All I'm trying to say is that I see on the community people building a lot of software and tools, a real software developer quickly judges that these are vibe-coded apps, which don't have much taste or software quality and are useless - which is true.

However the real money is not where you see. The real money is within business and often being used by people who have an existing network and connections

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 3 days ago

HQBase MCP - Share email workspace - 100% open source and free

I came across this amazing project - 100% open source and free.

HQBase is a shared email workspace that runs in your own Cloudflare account.

Mail, credentials, and the app stay on infrastructure you control

it ships an OAuth-protected remote MCP server so agents can actually work with the inbox.

GitHub repo in comments below.

Features

- Shared mailboxes and team access controls

- Multi-domain setup, drafts, and audit history

- Install, update, backup, and recovery ops

- OAuth-protected remote MCP server

- One-click deploy to Cloudflare Workers

how to Install

pnpm install

pnpm db:migrate:local

pnpm db:seed:local

pnpm dev

Add BETTER_AUTH_SECRET and HQBASE_LOCAL_SEED_PASSWORD to .dev.vars.

u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 3 days ago

Anthropic Published Claude code tips ( some applies to codex too)

Anthropic Published Claude code tips ( some applies to codex too.

https://claude.com/blog/maximizing-the-value-of-your-claude-code-sessions

In Nutshell-

Session hygiene

/clear between tasks — don't drag old context into new work
/compact when part of a task is done, and before any break over an hour
/rewind instead of /compact if the last few turns went wrong — it's free
/rename before /clear if you'll want the session back

Set once, at the start

Pick /model and /effort in a fresh session - switching mid-conversation re-prefills everything
Same for fast mode: on at the start, or not at all
MAX_THINKING_TOKENS=0 for pure grunt work

Keep context lean

@ -mention files instead of naming them - skips the Read call. Mention once only
/context in a fresh session to see what's loaded before you type
Trim CLAUDE .md to instructions; move workflows into skills
/mcp off any server you don't need this session

Command output

Add quiet flags - 400 lines of passing tests stay in context all session
Put your daily commands in CLAUDE .md with the flags already in them
Big output (>30k chars) is fine - it gets written to a file automatically

Offload

Use a subagent for noisy jobs like log-trawling - output stays out of your context
Give recurring subagents model: haiku
Run /loop from a separate terminal

u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 4 days ago

🔥 Opensource tool to measure Agent Experience (AX)

came across this github repo where you can measure Agent Experience for your tool.

Lighthouse for Agent Experience (AX)

It measure how AI agents – ChatGPT, Claude, Perplexity  -read, understand, and recommend your site.

github repo in comments below.

you can get a real, measured Agent Experience (AX) score and the fixes that make agents pick you.

how it works-

This tool let AI agents visit your product and provide a feedback - an agent score ( NPS )

basically answers 2 important questions-

- did agent (chatGPT, claude , claude code, codex) able to read and understand your offering of product.

- How was the experience - did it manage to spot and use things like llm.txt, API's, MCP , had content negotiation?

whats more is an agent council which runs 5 models and aggregate score to -

provide recommendations for fixes.

run on your coding agent pipeline along with evals and tests to see if with every new drop/feature improves /degrades agent experience and fixes automatically.

and ofcourse please give stars if you like it.

cheers !!

u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 5 days ago
▲ 3 r/A2AProtocol+1 crossposts

👀 YantraOS - Agent harness with BYOK ( been using deepseek v4 flash lately )

Building and using YantraOS for a while.

meant for solo founders or small business like me.

i figured months ago , some markdown files + harness + cheap models + a cron job can take you very far.

so idea is simple -

-> feed it context (.md files) and skills per project (or treat it as task/assignment)

-> connect your own model ( using opencode key) - shows cost.

-> It build Agents , Automation (cron job) , use templates

-> use connectors ( MCP, Github , Netlify ) to feed context- push code to deployments.

-> if you use cloudflare - can use all primitives

-> your whole team can collab and work together (shared context with permissions)

amazing browser use capability and it also has preview window to see all cool stuff browser agent is doing.

https://yantraos.dev

u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 5 days ago

Stateless MCP

Came across this amazing code

With MCP v2, MCP has become stateless, making it much easier to implement.

One of top 3 stateless compute primitive you'll find is Cloudflare Workers.

This is all the code you need to create a stateless MCP server with Cloudflare's Agents SDK!

import { McpServer } from "@modelcontextprotocol/server";

import { createMcpHandler } from "agents/mcp/server";

import { z } from "zod";

function createServer() {

const server = new McpServer({ name: "hello-server", version: "1.0.0" });

server.registerTool(

"hello",

{ description: "Return a greeting", inputSchema: { name: z.string().optional() } },

async ({ name }) => ({

content: [{ type: "text", text: \Hello, ${name ?? "World"}!` }],`

}),

);

return server;

}

export default {

fetch(request, env, ctx) {

return createMcpHandler(createServer)(request, env, ctx);

},

};

u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 6 days ago

Nowa’s Free Weekend starts now - "AI usage + deployment" free

Hey everyone

in collab with Nowa for vibecoding community.

Nowa’s Free Weekend starts now !!

For 48 hours straight, AI usage + deployment will be completely free for everyone who registered.

🏆 they also running a weekend hackathon

The 3 most beautiful apps built this weekend will each get:

→ $500 in AI credits → Hands-on support from our team to help scale the app → A feature on Nowa’s social channels

And everyone who participates in the hackathon gets $50 in AI credits to keep building after the weekend ends.

⚠️ Seats are limited, and you need to register to access the free weekend.

👉 Reserve your seat here: https://nowa.dev/free-weekend/ it is still open

Can’t wait to see what r/vibecodingcommunity build this weekend 🔥

u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 12 days ago

Looking for cofounder - vertical experts

Looking for cofounders who is domain experts for new project.

Me and my partner know how to build software products 0-1.

I am into products, he is into building software.

We buily companies and exited before.

We raised capital earlier , so know how to reach product stage where raising is easier.

Our last product was AI agents for a law product.

So we built a nice internal framework with workflow, agent evals baked in.

We are confident we can add a new vertical into our framework and built an agent first product in short span.

Looking for co founders who have Iexisting product with users or a pre AI product with users in a vertical domain and like to built new software product ground up leveraging AI and agents.

We seek Equity + Cash.

DM if this fits you.

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 16 days ago

Small non tech founders group

Hey All,

Inviting members to a small community of non tech founders where we talk about building startups business, growing teams in general.

By design the community is small and only created for non-tech founders. So we will apply usual filters.

If you are into tech , this is not for you.

Everyday we share experiences to build/transform existing businesses in the AI Tech age.

I myself come from a non-tech background and have been building products for the last couple of years so we love to interact with like-minded founders

DM and i will share invitation whatsapp community link.

Me and existing member Looking forward to welcoming you

Cheers

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 17 days ago

Small non tech founders group

Hey All,

Inviting members to a small community of non tech founders where we talk about building startups business, growing teams in general.

By design the community is small and only created for non-tech founders. So we will apply usual filters.

If you are into tech , this is not for you.

Everyday we share experiences to build/transform existing businesses in the AI Tech age.

I myself come from a non-tech background and have been building products for the last couple of years so we love to interact with like-minded founders

DM and i will share invitation whatsapp community link.

Me and existing member Looking forward to welcoming you

Cheers

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 18 days ago

Looking for domain expert cofounder

Hey All

We are team of 2 , one into products another one expert dev.

We build and exit business in past.

We have one active product generating revenue and we have looking to build another one.

We want to partner with founder building business in niche domain.

Ideally prefer founders who built business in past and knows how to work with small team.

DM or drop comment - will reach out.

Cheers !!

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 21 days ago

Looking for domain expert cofounder

Hey All

We are team of 2 , one into products another one expert dev.

We build and exit business in past.

We have one active product generating revenue and we have looking to build another one.

We want to partner with founder building business in niche domain.

Ideally prefer founders who built business in past and knows how to work with small team.

DM or drop comment - will reach out.

Cheers !!

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 21 days ago

Small Founder & Startup Networking Group ( non tech builders)

Non tech founder myself.

I've been talking to a lot of people here who are interested in building businesses, so I thought I'd create a small WhatsApp group.

The idea is simple: connect people like me who want to build something. Whether you're looking for a co-founder, Tech advice, marketer, HR or just people to brainstorm with, this could be a good place to meet like-minded builders.

If you're genuinely interested in startups or businesses and would like to join, DM me your number and I'll add you.

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u/Impressive-Owl3830 — 22 days ago