u/Incendas1

For the last few months I've been doing TNR and feral kitten rescue, and the lack of support and help is one thing, but the outright hostility and interference is another.

We have 7 kittens inside, 3 we bonded with and will keep, the other 4 we're socialising to adopt out. 7 kittens is a lot to feed and they all eat much more than an adult cat. We're also feeding two recovering adults outside since they got spayed.

Just to keep it short, we've had zero actual help from literally every organisation within miles, no help from the local municipality even though it's their responsibility, we have family trying to kick us out, vets mishandling our cats and being pricks in various ways, my partner's work threatening to fire him when he takes any to the vet, and some crazy woman coming to feed the cats bones with maggots all over them. I mean what the fuck? Is this what humanity is?

One of our kittens would have 100% died if we hadn't rescued him, others probably would have too, and the adults are so bloated with parasites that they look pregnant but they aren't! And we legit get people saying "it's just nature, don't get so upset, they won't make it anyway." They will if we do something man. Which I'M doing. Fuck you.

I don't even expect help at this point I just don't understand why everyone is so hostile. We have been so let down I just don't trust anyone at all anymore.

The whole situation is really something, and I won't get into it, but we're having to clear out a room where my partner's parents store a lot of their things (well, every room is like this).

The wardrobes are filled to the brim with packaged up baby clothes - they are SO heavy - and I just don't even know why they have this many.

I've been pulling them out and putting them in bags to give to them so they can sort through them and handle it. 3 huge black bags so far, super heavy, and I'm about half way.

We're telling them we can get baby clothes easily since people give them away, and they don't know we won't be having kids yet. They don't know it's because of the poorly behaved children in the family that completely turned me off it. They don't know we plan to go no contact.

Just a weird situation. It's strange seeing all the clothes now that I've made up my mind.

Don't know how to flair this. They've pushed us to our limits lately. Even if I wanted kids, I could never have them in this family.

Stole the poll idea. If you happen to be Czech, I'm extra interested in your opinion since I live there, so let me know.

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We are in a bit of a dire situation, we have another litter here. Again I've been desperately reaching out for any help at all and finding absolutely none (southwest rural Czechia). Organisations just say "try finding organisations" it's absolutely ridiculous. What I'm doing is beyond my body's limits. Anyway.

If I manage to grab this new litter of four, I can socialise them, but I can't keep them. We already have a litter of three with us that we will end up keeping because we couldn't find help for them either.

Yes, working on TNRing the mother despite failing last time. If we do I would try for them all at once.

This time we REALLY need to adopt them out. We aren't finding any support from shelters or organisations.

How can we get them adopted to good families? Has anyone done this and has any tips?

About a month and a half ago, one of the cats here, Bechamel, had three kittens. We discovered this because one was trapped and meowing.

We have all three kittens in our home and wanted to keep them. This has been really hard, but we are able to socialise them. One is very sick and still undergoing treatment.

Today I went outside to leave food where their mother used to be. I haven't seen their mother in quite some time, and we failed to catch her after weeks of trying before. I no longer have the time to sit outside with traps because of the 3 kittens. I've been leaving food in the hopes I could still trap her in future when the kitten care eases up (but they have been so so hard).

When I got there, there were at least 3 more young kittens and they ran inside the den.

I don't know if they're Bechamel's or not. There has been another cat around there when I leave food and I don't know if it's male or female. (UPDATE: Yes it was the other cat, a brown tabby we call Misery. I thought she was male but she isn't!)

Just feeling awful and like a failure, or like there's nothing I can do. I'm totally stretched to my limits with these three kittens and we just couldn't catch Bechamel, now I can't find her. I'm really sick and only just got a good night's sleep last night for the first time in ages. I've literally skipped appointments and need surgery.

I have no idea what to do. I can't find anyone to help here. I'm in rural Czechia, in the Plzeň region. I don't speak a lot of Czech and don't have time for that either.

I just need any advice. We don't have space for the kittens and I'm not sure how much trapping I can do in this state. I almost passed out trapping these 3 last time. Finances are becoming too difficult since I can't work like this.

Hi, looking for some advice. Both kittens about 4mo.

I have two siblings together right now. The calico girl is quite a bit smaller than her tabby brother, but she is becoming very bold and LOVES playtime.

She gets very engaged (and also very destructive) with her toys. Her brother is more shy and reserved - he clearly does want to play, but it takes him longer to get into it.

The problem is, whenever I play with them, she will try to monopolise the toy and even push his head away with her paw to get at it.

How can I handle this so the boy can have playtime with me as well?

The kittens are actually both feral but being socialised. They can be a bit skittish but aren't super scared of me anymore. They don't like touch yet and they're in a smaller enclosure for now.

I do use two toys or more at a time, but she often thinks his toy is more fun just because he's playing with it...

I recently rescued some kittens (I have a rant about trying to handle family around them on here as well). And it kind of instantly made me think, oh, this is something I could actually see myself committing a lot of energy and passion to.

They're very hard work for sure. In our current living conditions, and with my current health, I barely make it work for these cats who were urgently in need.

But that's the thing that immediately made me say, hold on, kids are YEARS more of this, MORE expensive, and so much more EFFORT than this. And I don't even like them!

I love cats, I'm good with cats, and even these guys are a lot right now. I'm confident I could foster kittens and cats really well in the right environment.

On the other hand... Always hated kids, just thought maybe it was other people's kids. Can't stand any kid noise at all. Hate interacting with them. I avoid them at work.

The choice is obvious, right?

Hi, as the title says, how much time and interaction should a single kitten get from us per day? He is about 4 months old.

Here is his current rough schedule:

• Overnight, my partner sleeps in his room with him

• In the morning, he gets a little playtime before my partner leaves for work

• When I wake up later, I feed him breakfast, sometimes a little play

• At lunchtime, I feed him lunch and hang out for an hour or two playing and/or cuddling

• At dinnertime, I feed him and play a little

• In the evening, we both hang out in his room and take turns playing with him and feeding treats

• Before bed, he gets his supper then a little playtime

So he gets a few hours of playtime and more time of us just hanging out.

• Why is he a single kitten?

He's an ex feral and has pneumonia - he reacted badly to his siblings being brought in a few weeks after him, so they are separated until he's doing better, then we'll try a reintroduction.

• How much space does he have?

Just one room, our living room, which is kitten proofed.

• What does he have to do in the room?

He has some basic toys he gets left all the time, and we play with toys that need supervision when we're there (string, chew sticks, pipe cleaners, etc). We will install cat shelving and a cat tree when he's healthier. He has two windows to watch out of and he often does that.

About a month ago I rescued one of the kittens from the abandoned house next door. He was stuck and abandoned, crying for days, and I just couldn't bring myself to leave him and couldn't forgive myself if anything happened to him.

He is lovely. He's a lot of work for sure. I also caught his two siblings before the multiple 38C heatwaves hit us and they have AC - shitty portable AC, but they're alive.

It's just so much especially the two new ones. The issue is really where we live and who we live with.

Family only say callous things about the cats and don't want them here, even though they never have to see them. I only have one kitten safe room where the first guy lives, but because he still has pneumonia, we can't stress him out with reintroductions and two bigger, more energetic kittens. So those two are stuck in a playpen in another room until he shows improvement because we have nowhere for them.

He is showing improvement it's just slow. I feel so trapped by this house. The family are basically hoarders of furniture so it's quite bad, we moved into it like this. We desperately want to move out but the cats eat into our savings for their medical expenses and I don't have time to work yet with all their care.

Just feel trapped. I so want to be in our own home away from people, somewhere nice for the cats. Even though they wouldn't have made it without us, I feel like I'm failing them often.

I'm trying to stay alive too, I'm very ill and need surgery, but they still require a lot of care. It will take 1-2 years of me working on top of my partner to get a decent place.

And then I also feel guilty because I have no time or energy left to TNR the cats outside anyway... Just praying no more kittens show up or at least there are no more horrible heatwaves.

Nobody else cares about them, it's all on me.

My 3 month old ex feral kitten was given his first dose of Panacur this morning at 8am.

He is on Panacur because the vet found he has parasite induced pneumonia. He has been having an increased breathing rate and doesn't always settle well, but was otherwise fine, some loose stool maybe but nothing unusual for him.

He was fine for a while today and then became very sleepy in the afternoon. It's normal for him to sleep then, but this continued tonight, and he was reluctant to eat dinner.

I did get him to eat dinner with some churu at 6pm. After eating, it seemed like he was very tired and in pain. He curled up and his third eyelid was showing when he opened his eyes. He was trying to sleep but couldn't settle.

He was like this for a little while, maybe an hour. He stopped curling up but was still very tired. He ate some kibble on his own, still very tired. Then after about another hour or so he became playful and active all of a sudden.

He got sleepy again just now but seems okay. Annoyed I won't play with him. He hasn't yet entered deep sleep in front of us so it's hard to count his breathing again.

• Is this a normal reaction to Panacur, so early?

• What can we expect for the rest? He is on a 5 days on, 5 days off schedule, 1/4 of a 250mg pill each morning

• He is also having immunoglukan in the morning, is there anything else we can give him?

We are taking him to the vet tomorrow morning to check on him.