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If you are ex-RP or trying to leave it, or have helped someone leave it:

What do you wish existed to help people leave RP ideologies? What would help?

I understand there is a vacuum, that men are often finding their way to RP because of other problems in their life, and it can be hard to deprogram.

Would it help if there were (for example)

• YouTube influencers who used to be RP talking about how they found their way out, interviewing other ex-RP

• a self guided online course or program (eg 12 weekly video lessons with exercises to do)

• a guide given to loved ones that help them understand what the RPer is going through and how to support them

• an in person or online group therapy/support program

• healthy masculinity orientated solutions for the underlying issues with no explicit mention of RP, manosphere, etc

• general mixed gender solutions for the underlying issues (social activities, sports/health, better dating and relationship advice, etc)

• counselling helplines or text chat lines

• healthy dating/social coaching program

• school run lessons

What are your ideas? Would you want to hear from men or women? From experts or ordinary people? More likely to seek out an online solution or something in your local community? What concepts or topics would most likely be of use to you and others you know?

Just got to vent to people who understand. Went to a new GP today and literally got into an argument about MJ.

I’ve been on MJ for over 1.5yrs. Initially with a GP, then they moved, and I switched to Downscale. However I have a few ongoing health conditions and need a local GP too.

I had a first appointment today with new GP, someone who locals had recommended. My appointment wasn’t about MJ, I just filled her in on my medical history as per request.

She said that the studies showed people lost 25% of weight on it, which I have already done, so I won’t lose anymore and should come off it.

I am still obese, and it may be the case that I won’t lose any more, however I also don’t want to regain weight.

She told me I am just “afraid” and have no reason to be, you can come off the medicine. You don’t want to be on it forever do you? It just takes willpower. And if you cut out sugar for two weeks you won’t want sweet things any more.

I explain i already have cut out sugar, I eat healthy, I’ve battled with weight my whole adult life and have lost (through extreme unsustainable measures) and regained ( regardless of what I do) multiple times, and meanwhile the disease has just progressed. If I don’t take this medicine I’ll end up diabetic.

I mean, Serena Williams is an elite tennis player with no shortage of determination and willpower, she has a dietician, coach, trainers, eats well, exercises, her career depends on it, and still couldn’t lose the excess weight without the medicine - is this not fucking proof it is metabolic?

Of course the doctor was overweight too.

At times I feel a little crazy seeing multiple health practitioners at once: downscale for weight, Telehealth specialist doctor for menopause, and local GP for when I need to see someone in person… each costing $ for appointments, but geez when GP’s are so damn ignorant about mainstream health issues that affect such a massive proportion of the population (this isn’t some niche rare issue that should need a specialist!) it reassures me this is just the way it’s gotta be to get the right advice.