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What if Mahito was present instead of Jogo when 15f Sukuna emerged in Shibuya and gave Mahito the "One hit" challenge ?

I think, Mahito is the worst matchup for this type of challenge because his Creativity and Unpredictability would have easily made him touch Sukuna one time.

If Sukuna was playing or holding back he would definitely lose the challenge.

So guys, we all know Mahito can do . 2s domain, but what are the other ways Mahito can touch Sukuna ?

P.S :

Guys, I'm talking about One lucky Shot, not a Sukuna downscale.

There has been a common misconception about how others can handle Gojo's kit. So let's break it down,

Six eyes :

It is used to see the world at an atomic level, just like Gege said, even if he uses Rct, it becomes tiring for him if he does not do anything to cover his eyes, a sensory overload similar to his Unlimited void.

Limitless :

* The toughest technique in the entire jjk verse, which is based on the paradox of Achilles and the tortoise, an convergence of infinite series, where one can control over Space, but cannot be used without Six eyes.

* On paper it looks easy but, as Miguel mentioned, "It is the precise manipulation of cursed energy at an atomic level to control space". You have to read that line, again and again to try to understand how difficult is this technique to use.

Satoru Gojo:

He achieved this level of mastery, because of his own natural talent, training and hardwork. He is the first and only one to come up with a way of constantly using Rct in a closed loop to keep his technique active at all times.

Now let's look at what others have achieved or what they can do with both the kit.

Previous Six eyes user :

This guy died against Untamed Mahoraga is enough evidence of how weak he is, compared to Satoru who just used Mahoraga as his punching bag which was backed by Sukuna.

Yuta :

* As we saw in the manga, how much Yuta struggled to use this technique and he realised how much training Gojo has done to reach that level.

* This is coming from the Prodigy, Second only to Satoru, a guy who has been easily handling all of the copied techniques in his kit.

Kenjaku:

He never even once thought of killing a 15 year old or younger than that age to take over the body of six eyes, meaning he cannot handle the six eyes.

Sukuna :

* Let's take a character study of Sukuna, he wanted to be free and in control, so he can do whatever he wants, he fought in the complicated way against Satoru because that is his only way of handling Gojo.

* So can he handle Six eyes, a biological trait which just gives him an atomic level of understanding everything but not only that there is so much unwanted information, where you have to multitask with your own thinking and handling the unwanted information.

* He specifically called Limitless an Troublesome technique, even other translations are so close to "Difficult to use", so you need to have precise control over Space and distance, where you have to multitask between getting unwanted information, filter it, use the technique at an atomic level to even use it to normal level. Sukuna wanted to be far away from the Limitless technique because he knows, that is the most difficult one of all.

* So it is exactly the opposite of Sukuna's character trait, Hedonism where you can do whatever you want, opposed to your fate being tied to others and constantly getting too much information. To use Rct at all times to your brain, just to maintain the most difficult technique of all, so being generous I can say the max Sukuna can do is coming close to 50% of Gojo's technique mastery.

Final Thoughts :

* There is a reason why Gojo was called Strongest and a Sole exception.

* Just because he is born with Genetic lottery, he did not become Strongest, he worked very hard for that to reach the God level.

* No one can come close to Satoru in his technique mastery and his way of dealing with Six eyes, not even the great Sukuna can do anything like Satoru if he had his toolkit.

Gojo healing his burnout technique is the biggest nerf Gege gave it to him.

Before going into the topic I wanted to share some important points:

* Gojo has the best efficiency in the verse.

* Gojo can do unlimited domains, if the second best efficient user can do unlimited so can Gojo.

Propaganda:

* Gojo can only do 5 where Sukuna can do more, which is not.

* Sukuna glazers love to say that, " If Gojo stopped using Rct for even a second, Gojo would die". I have attached the panel where Gojo stopped using the Rct tanked Malevolent shrine for some seconds and nothing happened still the same normal cut.

* "Sukuna was playing with Gojo", where I have also attached the panel where sukuna got annoyed when Gojo used a second Simple domain.

Gojo:

Gojo has extraordinary stats, exceptional ce reinforcement, best efficiency, ie, never ending cursed energy, moves very well even when using Rct at full output while being a better fighter than the domain amped Meguna when he was suffering from burnout.

Let's compare the Efficiency and Recovery time of top 3 in the original manga

* Gojo:

Has the best efficiency, so assuming he can recover his technique under a minute

* Sukuna:

Second best efficiency, so let's just assume he recovers under two minutes.

* Yuta:

Yuta recovered his technique in Sendai, under 3 minutes assuming the 5 minute time limit of Rika.

Bottom line:

Everything is an assumption, relative to the meaning of the word "Efficiency".

I don't want to talk about Kenjaku because he has multiple techniques so maybe he just switches burnout to other techniques who knows it was a mystery.

Output:

The output of both of these Sorcerers only plummeted because of their brain damage, until that brain damage, the output problem was never mentioned

Anti domain techniques:

No anti domain techniques would work against Gojo's Unlimited void as explained by kusakabe and also if Gojo's simple domain stripped away in seconds, sukuna's hwb will also be stripped away in seconds, there is no margin of error against Gojo's domain because of his best sure hit.

Let's just analyse what would happen if Gojo uses this strategy in domain battles:

* First clash:

All Gojo had to do was spam a simple domain for 20 - 30 times to recover his domain, no energy loss. What's Sukuna gonna do with his small domain there is only one way to increase his range to do this let's come to second clash.

* Second clash:

In the second clash, Sukuna can actually do his Kamino, but there is a catch the moment Sukuna says Fuga, Gojo's six eyes tells him what's gonna happen all Gojo has to do is stop his handsigns just like how Sukuna stopped Megumi and Yujo. Gojo can hold sukuna's hand, apply an arm bar, even break his hand just like he did with Jogo, since Sukuna is weaker, with spamming Falling blossom emotion for a minute with normal output of rct or simple domain, Gojo recovers his domain.

* Third clash:

The same draw.

First mutual Burnout:

When both of them are suffering from burnout, Gojo is overwhelmingly stronger than Sukuna, so he suffers more damage, where I attached the panel where all sukuna can do is run.

* Fourth clash or there is no clash:

This is where things are interesting, Sukuna cannot recover before Gojo, so Gojo opens his domain, Sukuna brings Mahoraga and destroys Gojo's domain.

Second Burnout:

Here, Sukuna may fight alongside with mahoraga, since mahoraga was already adapting in Megumi's soul. Mahoraga was Gojo's punching bag even when it adapted to his infinity, blue, red, if Gojo can handle domain amped Meguna, in burnout, mahoraga is not much of a problem

* Fifth clash or there is no clash:

Now Gojo knows about Mahoraga, Gojo is ready for it and destroys it in Fifth clash since Sukuna's brain is destroyed by Unlimited void, Sukuna cannot use his domain. Gojo wins.

In short:

* In a perfect universe, Gojo would fight even better than I explained if it isn't for Gege's, "Plot" for Gojo to lose.

* What Gojo should have done is low risk low reward, but a guaranteed win, but what Gege made him do is, High risk high reward, with an almost impossible loss.

Gojo healing his burnout technique is the biggest nerf Gege gave it to him.

Before going into the topic I wanted to share some important points:

* Gojo has the best efficiency in the verse.

* Gojo can do unlimited domains, if the second best efficient user can do unlimited so can Gojo.

Propaganda:

* Gojo can only do 5 where Sukuna can do more, which is not.

* Sukuna glazers love to say that, " If Gojo stopped using Rct for even a second, Gojo would die". I have attached the panel where Gojo stopped using the Rct tanked Malevolent shrine for some seconds and nothing happened still the same normal cut.

* "Sukuna was playing with Gojo", where I have also attached the panel where sukuna got annoyed when Gojo used a second Simple domain.

Gojo:

Gojo has extraordinary stats, exceptional ce reinforcement, best efficiency, ie, never ending cursed energy, moves very well even when using Rct at full output while being a better fighter than the domain amped Meguna when he was suffering from burnout.

Let's compare the Efficiency and Recovery time of top 3 in the original manga

* Gojo:

Has the best efficiency, so assuming he can recover his technique under a minute

* Sukuna:

Second best efficiency, so let's just assume he recovers under two minutes.

* Yuta:

Yuta recovered his technique in Sendai, under 3 minutes assuming the 5 minute time limit of Rika.

Bottom line:

Everything is an assumption, relative to the meaning of the word "Efficiency".

I don't want to talk about Kenjaku because he has multiple techniques so maybe he just switches burnout to other techniques who knows it was a mystery.

Output:

The output of both of these Sorcerers only plummeted because of their brain damage, until that brain damage, the output problem was never mentioned

Anti domain techniques:

No anti domain techniques would work against Gojo's Unlimited void as explained by kusakabe and also if Gojo's simple domain stripped away in seconds, sukuna's hwb will also be stripped away in seconds, there is no margin of error against Gojo's domain because of his best sure hit.

Let's just analyse what would happen if Gojo uses this strategy in domain battles:

* First clash:

All Gojo had to do was spam a simple domain for 20 - 30 times to recover his domain, no energy loss. What's Sukuna gonna do with his small domain there is only one way to increase his range to do this let's come to second clash.

* Second clash:

In the second clash, Sukuna can actually do his Kamino, but there is a catch the moment Sukuna says Fuga, Gojo's six eyes tells him what's gonna happen all Gojo has to do is stop his handsigns just like how Sukuna stopped Megumi and Yujo. Gojo can hold sukuna's hand, apply an arm bar, even break his hand just like he did with Jogo, since Sukuna is weaker, with spamming Falling blossom emotion for a minute with normal output of rct or simple domain, Gojo recovers his domain.

* Third clash:

The same draw.

First mutual Burnout:

When both of them are suffering from burnout, Gojo is overwhelmingly stronger than Sukuna, so he suffers more damage, where I attached the panel where all sukuna can do is run.

* Fourth clash or there is no clash:

This is where things are interesting, Sukuna cannot recover before Gojo, so Gojo opens his domain, Sukuna brings Mahoraga and destroys Gojo's domain.

Second Burnout:

Here, Sukuna may fight alongside with mahoraga, since mahoraga was already adapting in Megumi's soul. Mahoraga was Gojo's punching bag even when he adapted to his infinity, blue, red, if Gojo can handle domain amped Meguna, in burnout, mahoraga is not much of a problem

* Fifth clash or there is no clash:

Now Gojo knows about Mahoraga, Gojo is ready for it and destroys it in Fifth clash since Sukuna's brain is destroyed by Unlimited void, Sukuna cannot use his domain. Gojo wins.

In short:

* In a perfect universe, Gojo would fight even better than I explained if it isn't for Gege's, "Plot" for Gojo to lose.

* What Gojo should have done is low risk low reward, but a guaranteed win, but what Gege made him do is, High risk high reward, with an almost impossible loss.

P.S

After reading your comments I wanted to add this:

Mahito:

• He recovered his technique faster because of both 0.2s domain and a black flash before and after his domain, so we cannot compare that to Gojo vs Sukuna

• After thoroughly analysing Gojo vs Sukuna, Sukuna would never lock in and hit black flash as long as Mahoraga is alive, he believes in mahoraga more than himself, so it favours gojo.

Efficiency:

• Efficiency is the ability to do a task or a process well while using the "Least amount of time", money, energy, and waste. It means getting the highest possible output from the smallest amount of input.

• It was never mentioned anywhere Gojo can recover his technique faster than Sukuna, but also it was never stated opposite in the manga either, by going with the meaning of the word efficiency, I just came to the conclusion of Gojo regaining faster, read the explanation again.

Main topic:

• Listen Sukuna glazers you guys did not create Sukuna it was Gege, so only he knows the full strength of sukuna, the same argument also applies to us, Gojo glazers.

• Throughout the series, the running theme was " Sole exception of Gojo Satoru", not Ryomen Sukuna, but you guys always try to make Gojo so normal. Even after Gojo's death, the narrator does that by explaining Kusakabe's abilities.

• I'm not saying Gege is wrong of course he knows more than any of us. What I'm saying is there is a "What if" possibility Gojo could have done that and won.

• You Sukuna glazers be like, "Gojo did that because that is the only way for his victory if he thought of any other way he would have done that". No it doesn't work like that. This is the way Gege chose to write in his version.

• What if in Gege's mind be like, " Oh no, Gojo is perfect he is so strong he can tank or spam anything forever so let's just make him do this unnecessary brain healing and which looks like a buff but it was actually a nerf so Sukuna can have any chance to win".

• It may sound ridiculous and I don't have any proof of my claim, but so do you. You guys cannot say this is the only way, if not Gojo would die. Who knows what's in the mind of Gege when he wrote the battle and he never specified this is the only way for Gojo in any interview, so it's a 50-50.

• Let me give you an example, a guy like Sukuna, who can do unlimited domains because of his efficiency lost half of his reserves against Gojo, what would have happened if they went for another round with his Heian transformation, against a guy who lost nothing at that time and even stronger then before, maybe on his way to get his domain back.

• Listen guys, Gojo can do this forever where Sukuna cannot, but only against Gojo, so the sole exception rule also applies even against sukuna. Sukuna is inferior to Gojo even though you guys won't accept it.

Micro level:

*After defeating Toji, Gojo has developed this skill to keep Infinity for 24/7, which the previous Six eyes user never mastered because if the previous one has done that, they would have mentioned in records.

* Shoko pointed out an important fact,

if you keep a technique active at all times your brain will fry so Gojo explained that he has been constantly refreshing his brain using a low output Rct at all times.

Unprecedented:

No one in the history was capable of keeping a technique active at all times and keep using Rct for 24/7, this alone proves Gojo's skill.

Macro level:

As Yuta mentioned you cannot use Rct on something that isn't broken, so what Gojo does is the logical next step of his abilities. His new ability has

* Prior setup (Constant brain Rct)

* Explanation (Destroying that part and healing)

Final thoughts:

It is a testament to Gojo's Jujutsu skills, if it was plot armour there would be no consequences to using it.

I always find this panel funny because Gojo asked for their help only if he got weaker than them.

Let's discuss the state Gojo was in at that time

* Brain damage

* No domain

* Low Rct

* Low output

* Fighting against the King of curses, Strongest Shikigami in history, Third Strongest Shikigami after Rika.

Even when the odds were against him, Gojo was in control of the majority of the fight, especially when there is a being which adapted to his entire kit except Purple.

Gojo would never become weaker than them that's why he wanted his students to reach his level.

Irony

Actually the Eos Sukuna became weaker than them and was defeated by Yuji. Gojo went out as the Strongest while Sukuna went out by becoming weaker than Gojo's Star students.

Let's compare Gojo, Toji and Meguna

GOJO:

After defeating Toji, Gojo must have trained to a level where he cannot lose to heavenly restriction users even without his Limitless, we can imagine his training from Ogi zenin statements.Both Shibuya and Shinjuku proved Gojo is more than his limitless.

Shibuya:

Gojo was casually dealing disaster curses with just ce reinforcement and martial arts, after dismissing his domain Gojo is in burnout period and he destroyed 1000 transfigured humans within 5 minutes, ie 3.3 kill/second without limitless, during this time Gojo may regained his technique but Gojo moving at that speed with infinity will definitely cause collateral damage to humans nearby, so no limitless.

Shinjuku Showdown:

Gojo displayed an impressive feat in the first domain clash where he was a better fighter than the 20f equivalent, domain amped Meguna, even without his Limitless while also using Rct at full output, a peerless feat according to sukuna.

TOJI:

When Toji fought Megumi he compares toji to 3f sukuna so considering Megumi's statement, toji must be minimum 6f to the max of 9f, since 10f equivalent heian sukuna with low output plus all the damages he suffered from Yuta and others after his transformation only has medium level trouble against Maki until he locked in and used black flash.

MEGUNA:

16f Sukuna jacked Megumi's body and straight-up leveled Yuji, sending him spitting blood and crashing through blocks and he was casually dealing with both Maki and Yuji even with low output.

Conclusion:

Gojo is the Strongest modern sorcerer, where he can defeat heavenly restriction users even without Limitless

Let's compare Gojo, Toji and Meguna

GOJO:

After defeating Toji, Gojo must have trained to a level where he cannot lose to heavenly restriction users even without his Limitless, we can imagine his training from Ogi zenin statements.Both Shibuya and Shinjuku proved Gojo is more than his limitless.

Shibuya:

Gojo was casually dealing disaster curses with just ce reinforcement and martial arts, after dismissing his domain Gojo is in burnout period and he destroyed 1000 transfigured humans within 5 minutes, ie 3.3 kill/second without limitless, during this time Gojo may regained his technique but Gojo moving at that speed with infinity will definitely cause collateral damage to humans nearby, so no limitless.

Shinjuku Showdown:

Gojo displayed an impressive feat in the first domain clash where he was a better fighter than the 20f equivalent, domain amped Meguna, even without his Limitless while also using Rct at full output, a peerless feat according to sukuna.

TOJI:

When Toji fought Megumi he compares toji to 3f sukuna so considering Megumi's statement, toji must be minimum 6f to the max of 9f, since 10f equivalent heian sukuna with low output plus all the damages he suffered from Yuta and others after his transformation, only has medium level trouble against Maki until he locked in and used black flash.

MEGUNA:

16f Sukuna jacked Megumi's body and straight-up leveled Yuji, sending him spitting blood and crashing through blocks and he was casually dealing with both Maki and Yuji even with low output.

Conclusion:

Gojo is the Strongest modern sorcerer, where he can defeat heavenly restriction users even without Limitless

Let's compare Gojo, Toji and Meguna

GOJO:

After defeating Toji, Gojo must have trained to a level where he cannot lose to heavenly restriction users even without his Limitless, we can imagine his training from Ogi zenin statements.Both Shibuya and Shinjuku proved Gojo is more than his limitless.

Shibuya:

Gojo was casually dealing disaster curses with just ce reinforcement and martial arts, after dismissing his domain Gojo is in burnout period and he destroyed 1000 transfigured humans within 5 minutes, ie 3.3 kill/second without limitless, during this time Gojo may regained his technique but Gojo moving at that speed with infinity will definitely cause collateral damage to humans nearby, so no limitless.

Shinjuku Showdown:

Gojo displayed an impressive feat in the first domain clash where he was a better fighter than the 20f equivalent, domain amped Meguna, even without his Limitless while also using Rct at full output, a peerless feat according to sukuna.

TOJI:

When Toji fought Megumi he compares toji to 3f sukuna so considering Megumi's statement, toji must be minimum 6f to the max of 9f, since 10f heian sukuna with low output has medium level trouble against Maki until he locked in and used black flash.

MEGUNA:

16f Sukuna jacked Megumi's body and straight-up leveled Yuji, sending him spitting blood and crashing through blocks and he was casually dealing with both Maki and Yuji even with low output.

Conclusion:

Gojo is the Strongest modern sorcerer, where he can defeat heavenly restriction users even without Limitless

What do you guys think?

Sukuna has 20f, only Shrine, no domain, no WCS vs Gojo has no time limit Rika, copied entire jjk techniques except Limitless, Comedian, Jacob's leader, only excluding mahoraga from 10 shadows, no domain. Both have equal efficiency. [Remember guys you can only use one technique at a time]

Sukuna has 20f, only Shrine, no domain, no WCS vs Gojo has no time limit for Rika, has copied entire jjk techniques except Limitless and Comedian, no domain. Both have equal efficiency.