Let's be real here everyone probs only remembers the Boss's Skill, so I figured I might as well pick a relevant picture.
Character list: The Director, Cao Xiu, Lin Xiuyuan, Li Zhitong, Geng Hao, Liu Xing, Zhang Jinhua, Masked Man, Baili Qiangsheng, Cheng Si, Tutorial Youth.
Breaking news: As Zhang Meili won't be making the cut, I have run out of images to take from the animation.
Character list: Cao Xiu, Lin Xiuyuan, Li Zhitong, Geng Hao, Liu Xing, Zhang Jinhua, Masked Man, Baili Qiangsheng, Cheng Si, Tutorial Youth.
I was wondering whether to actually include this fella for reasons that you may be able to figure out, but getting some more active characters isn't bad.
Character list: Lin Xiuyuan, Li Zhitong, Geng Hao, Liu Xing, Zhang Jinhua, Masked Man, Baili Qiangsheng, Cheng Si, Tutorial Youth.
Ngl, deciding the cast and turn order for Sinful Hospital is taking more effort than I thought.
Character list: Li Zhitong, Geng Hao, Liu Xing, Zhang Jinhua, Masked Man, Baili Qiangsheng, Cheng Si, Tutorial Youth.
Disclaimer that basically all of this is gonna be my own deduction, so take it with a grain of salt. Anyways, first, let's clarify how time works here.
In 18LOH, there is only one True Timeline. Other timelines exist due to the effects of Skills, but they aren't relevant right now, all we care about is the True Timeline.
Within the True Timeline, the past, present and future exist simultaneously. This is how the Ninth can obtain Future Chen Ran's Liar Killer and give it to her created [Future Chen Ran].
(Conspiracy theory starts here, yes the timeline is that miserable):
If I'm correct, the True Timeline doesn't start from the beginning of time or anything. Instead, the True Timeline's origin point was the node where the Ninth's existence was determined. From then on, as a version of the Ninth existed within the True Timeline, she could start changing the past.
The node is probably when Supreme Goodness is Like Water started his plan to determine the True Self players, but nothing's confirmed, so I won't expand on that. Instead, I'll start talking about the past of the True Timeline, or more precisely, about how the past is immutable.
The story states that Omnipotent hid his True Timeline past amongst an innumerable number of timelines, making it impossible to find and kill him, but logically speaking, this isn't the case. Outside of One, there is no restriction on the number of True Self players that can exist in non-True Timelines, so it should be possible for a similarly innumerable number of—say, Zhang Fans—to find and kill him. Therefore, considering how the internal thoughts aren't very reliable at times, we can conclude that this is a lie.
This must mean that the past is immutable, but then, how would the Ninth arrange Chen Yang, her reincarnations, and for her [Future Chen Ran] to participate in the sealing of Zhang Fan? I think I have an answer for that too.
The past is immutable, but the future isn't. Imagine the time of the Ninth's creation node is A. When Meta-Time reaches point A, in the future of the True Timeline, the Ninth is born at theoretical point X. From then on, as Meta-Time is only at point A, points B to Z are still considered the future of the True Timeline, meaning the Ninth is free to change point B as she sees fit.
This should be able to explain all of the Ninth's past meddlings, and explain why she's not meddling more. The novel mainly follows Meta-Time, and so it's no longer possible to change the past. Otherwise, I can't see a reason why the Ninth wouldn't mess around with the True Timeline.
Note that the mechanism that stops the past from being changed is likely a restriction of the Ninth's Skill, which is why it's always her who's the one to fix things. This is sorta based on her saying that "this is the [Future] layer" when she met Future Chen Ran. Presumably, the incredibly messy True Timeline is a creation of her Skill, and so its maintainence is also part of her Skill.
However, this does raise a question of "Why did Omnipotent try to kill CR in the Novice instance, when with this theory it would be impossible?" The answer's pretty simple, he wasn't. His existence in the Novice instance led to CR earning an unnatural amount of points, which became the basis for Gui Yu creation in Hua Changsheng's instance. In other words, that was his real purpose.
There's also the issue of his descent in Hua Changsheng's instance being stated to "only have the purpose of confirming the Ninth's survival", but that one doesn't really make sense at all. His descent in the Novice Instance already confirmed that, so my guess is that the narration lied again by abusing the ••• spacing to make it look like the statement referred to his descent in Hua Changsheng's instance, when in reality it referred to something else.
Not only that, but his descent also was the catalyst to CR being able beat Shu Renjun without Ghost Immortal Joy, so unless we're saying that Omnipotent is stupid and got manipulated, he must've had that as a secondary purpose.
There's not much to add after this, aside from the fact that Meta-Time's progression cannot be stopped. Assuming this theory is correct, pretty much every single confusing bit about the timeline can be explained, and I can't think of one that can't at the moment.
Now if you'll excuse me, imma rest my brain a bit. If you find an issue or have any questions, feel free to comment them, I'll answer it best I can.
2 generic faces in a row lol. Also, no one actually said whether the team could beat Aki yesterday, so that's a first.
Wonder if I should add one of the personalities from the hotel game for fun.
Character List: Geng Hao, Liu Xing, Zhang Jinhua, Masked Man, Baili Qiangsheng, Cheng Si, Tutorial Youth.
Was a bit of a toss-up between him and Li Jianguo, but I figured someone with a more memorable name was better.
Character list: Liu Xing, Zhang Jinhua, Masked Man, Baili Qiangsheng, Cheng Si, Tutorial Youth.
Funneh image.
Character list: Zhang Jinhua, Masked Man, Baili Qiangsheng, Cheng Si, Tutorial Youth.
Did we switch genres offscreen? Why did my intellect battle novel suddenly turn into a magic battle novel? I mean, we've seen flashy Skill usages before, but this is the first time (Zhang Fan barely counts) we've seen instakill kills being flung around like it's nothing.
I mean, the initial encounter with Yue Guanshan was sorta like this, but at least Yue Guanshan fought with No Distance and the Skill usage was simple. Plus, there was still an element of planning and strategy there, like with them trying to evade Traceless Snow Steps. And even then, the Skills used weren't fatal on their own.
It's just really funny.
In case specification is needed, the Masked Man here is the Masked Man who CR faced as the Boss. Now's also as good a time as any to mention that fodder is only in reference to Chen Ran at the time of the arc.
In other news, we're done with the Tutorial and Novice instances. Next up is The Lonely Revenge.
Character list: Masked Man, Baili Qiangsheng, Cheng Si, Tutorial Youth.
The statement is "That murderer, John Grant, will definitely go to Hell when he dies." This statement is said in the main Eighteenth Layer, and John Grant indeed is a murderer.
I hate common sense. I genuinely have no idea how CR and QY survived even half a second in the Eighteenth Layer before reaching Ego state of mind.
Edit: Note that John Grant is a living person.
By young, I mean Chen Ran immediately prior to the death of Li Xintong. Right before his mental evasion if we wanna be spicy. Either way, it's hard to tell.
Question's legit, but considering that you can count the number of people here who even read that far on your fingers, the flair felt appropriate.
And we finally get to the first character to have a generic "face". You'll see it again soon enough, they use it a good bit.
Also introducing the character list, mostly because ik most people will forget who was on the previous days eventually.
Character list: Baili Qiangsheng, Cheng Si, Tutorial Youth.
I was wondering whether to put in Lin Feng or not, but I figured that he was too weak even for fodder.
No, this is definitely not just me trying to convince people to read 18LOH. Original idea not taken from Epik, do not steal.
Mostly just doing this because I'm bored, here are my personal guesses.
1.5: I mean, it's pretty obvious that Omnipotent is the one who interfered with Chen Yang's split personalities, so it's quite likely that he's the core of Jiang Zhe's Skill. Saint's Skill sure isn't despite the name, so there's no other options anyways.
2.5: No, I don't care that every character until now has said that it corresponds to Eternal Kingdom, the name and effect is so incredibly Ultimate Annihilation coded. I mean, I get their logic, this is indeed one of the baseline effects of Eternal Kingdom, but I refuse to believe it.
3.5: And this is the other reason why I think Reverse Future corresponds to Ultimate Annihilation. "Immovable", "King" and being unaffected by Skills is extremely Eternal Kingdom coded.
4.5: Pretty obvious, this is one of Saint's abilities. Kinda odd that this got transferred one-to-one, but I guess that because Jiang Zhe is a split personality of Saint, he gets special privileges.
5.5: The name is based off of the Nine-Bend Yellow River array from Investiture of the Gods, which includes, among other things, the three paths of Daoism, Taoism and Confucianism. The effect and actual array doesn't really align with Confucianism though, and Daoism isn't one of the Ten Extremes, so Taoism it must be. Therefore, this skill corresponds to Supreme Goodness is Like Water (probably).
5.5: Unity of Heaven and Man is more of a gut feeling thing tbh, based mostly on subverting expectation. It's most likely just Primordial Limitless.
When are we gonna see Jiang Zhe's other Skills I wonder.
Welcome everyone to today's wild conspiracy theory, presented by yours truly.
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First of all, huge thanks to Simply Amazing for inspiring me to do this. Check this post (https://www.reddit.com/r/IntelligenceScaling/s/Gbng65eedb) out if you haven't, it's great.
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Now then, let's start.
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+ Known: Omniscient and Omnipotent's goal for this dungeon is to have Chen Ran learn about, and therefore become affected by their Skills.
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+ Known: Gao Lan's Skill can summon the consciousness of Evening Breeze, which allows this to happen.
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- Conclusion 1: Gao Lan is Omniscient and Omnipotent's arrangement, and plays a purpose in the instance. His team is a tag-along meant to "kill with praise".
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+ Known: The Fitness Blogger (Tian Xiaohua) was told to team with Shu Renjun.
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+ Known: Both Tian Xiaohua and Shu Renjun are Whisperers.
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- Conclusion 2: Shu Renjun is Omniscient's arrangement, and Tian Xiaohua is a tag-along. I'll get back to this later.
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+ Known: The First Floor Master sent a hunting squad to track Chen Ran.
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+ Known: The hunting squad is intended to "kill with praise" and make Chen Ran overestimate himself.
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- Conlusion 3: The hunting squad is Omnipotent's arrangement, and plays a purpose in the instance.
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+ Known: The Underworld interfered in this instance, to protect Qiu Yinong.
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+ Known: Big Gold Tooth (Cui Yu) is needed for Lin Ou's creation.
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+ Known: Cui Yu is the only player still unaccounted for.
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- Conclusion 4: Cui Yu is the Saint's arrangement, and plays a purpose in the instance.
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Of these four conclusions, you probably already noticed a detail about Conclusion 2. It's the only one where I didn't say the target played a purpose in the instance, because well, Shu Renjun seemingly doesn't help with the goals of the two Alliance Leaders, the Ninth, or the Underworld, the True Self players participating in this instance.
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Let's go over the goals of the True Self players for this instance again.
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- Omniscient and Omnipotent: To let Chen Ran deduce their Skills and fall under their influence.
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- The Ninth and Saint: As part of the Trio on the River of Time, their goal is to protect Chen Ran, and by extension protect his teammates if appropriate. They probs have some more reasons, but that's beyond my level.
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And now, let's see what Shu Renjun does:
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+ Known: Shu Renjun learns Unity of Heaven and Man, letting Chen Ran understand how stronger players fight better. This goes against Omniscient and Omnipotent's "kill with praise" goal
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- Conclusion 5: Shu Renjun is not Omniscient and Omnipotent's arrangement.
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+ Known: Shu Renjun puts Chen Ran's group in danger, to the point where the pawn Cui Yu needed to sacrifice himself, making it difficult for the Trio to protect Chen Ran's group in the instance. This is an unnecessary risk, however minor, that provides the Trio no gain.
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- Conclusion 6: Shu Renjun's existence goes against the Trio's goal to protect Chen Ran's group. Therefore, Shu Renjun is note the Trio's arrangement.
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It is incredibly unlikely however that in an instance where everyone else has a purpose, only Shu Renjun and his tagalong don't, so this is my theory.
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- Assumption: Shu Renjun is someone's arrangement.
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+ Known: Ultimate Annihilation and Dust Ruins God Transformation are partly out of commission, and it is difficult for them to participate.
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- Conclusion 7: Ultimate Annihilation and Dust Ruins God Transformation are not behind Shu Renjun.
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+ Known: Supreme Goodness is Like Water has a bit of a target on his back and is busy guarding the Eternal Land, so it is difficult for him to participate.
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- Conclusion 8: Supreme Goodness is Like Water is not behind Shu Renjun.
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So then, we have only two canidate left, Supreme Perfect Enlightenment and Unity of Heaven and Man. Of these two, Supreme Perfect Enlightenment is practically an unknown, but Unity of Heaven and Man has had a bit more revealed.
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+ Known: Unity of Heaven and Mind created a mind cultivation method of the same name.
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+ Known: A mind cultivation method's creator posesses the greatest understanding of that mind cultivation method.
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+ Known: A player can predict another player's actions using Supreme Perfect Enlightenment due to its formulaic nature.
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+ Known: While not completely formulaic, rules, by nature, are somewhat formulaic, and we even have a little part explaining how a Unity of Heaven and Mind as a philosophy works, with commonalities.
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- Theory: Unity of Heaven and Man arranged Shu Renjun to let Chen Ran (or more precisely, Qiu Yinong) learn about Unity of Heaven and Man mind cultivation early. This would allow him to utilize his understanding as the creator to do a bootleg version of what Supreme Perfect Enlightenment can do with its practitioners, and help predict them better.
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From there, we only have Tian Xiaohua left (I forgot to talk about him earlier), but it's pretty easy to assume that he's yet more fodder meant to "kill with praise".
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Tbh, this theory's a bit lacking, hence why I call it a wild conspiracy theory, but it's my best guess. Lin Ou's probably part of the gap, but I for the life of me just can't figure out why Unity of Heaven and Man worked with Saint to create him, so I'll just settle for this.
I saw a totally completely serious post about Yuuichi vs Chen Ran earlier and decided that I simply couldn't stand for it. Why do people keep using Chen Ran in obv unfair matchups, as if he's the only character from 18LOH?
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That's why I'm imploring everyone to stop using top tiers like Chen Ran and instead use other, weaker 18LOH characters. Case in point, this random bum Chen Yang who lost to Chen Ran before even chapter 100. This would be way more fair to other characters.
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And not just him, 18LOH is filled with lower tiers. We have Lin Ou, who couldn't even survive 15 mins real time in front of Chen Ran. Ling Chi, who is so bad he couldn't even use his Skill properly near the end. Zhang Fan, who couldn't even beat Chen Yang, the bum I mentioned earlier.
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Please, stop using Chen Ran and start using these weak characters instead.
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(And before anyone says silly things like "OP, what you're saying is highly misleading and incredibly out of context", I finished the Lie game and am currently laughing at Jiang Zhe for managing to screw himself despite the Skill he has, I defo know what I'm talking about and am to be trusted implicitly.)
In this scenario, all 13.1k members of this subreddit will be fused into one Super SCD Chimera. Super SCD Chimera will possess all 13.1k minds, and the minds can seamlessly communicate and coordinate with eachother, with no worries about processing issues from their communication.
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The body of the Super SCD Chimera will be controlled by one mind at a time, chosen at random. If a majority of minds agree on it, the mind in control will be instantly swapped with another mind at random. Not sure if this part is even needed tbh, but I prefer clarity.
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Anyways, with all that out of the way, who's the strongest SCD character Super SCD Chimera could beat?