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I have difficulty understanding Matthew 11:12

Matthew 11:12 states:

English translation: "And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force".

Koine Greek version: Ἀπὸ δὲ τῶν ἡμερῶν Ἰωάννου τοῦ βαπτιστοῦ ἕως ἄρτι ἡ βασιλεία τῶν οὐρανῶν βιάζεται, καὶ βιασταὶ ἁρπάζουσιν αὐτήν.

Does that mean the violent people are able to take, seize and enter the kingdom of heaven by force?

All explanations will be appreciated.

Update: I just realized that the English translation above was the ESV version of which the KJV and NKJV and NASV also mention that "the violent take it by force".

Other English translations are as follows:

The NIV version: "From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and violent people have been raiding it."

NLT version: "And from the time John the Baptist began preaching until now, the Kingdom of Heaven has been forcefully advancing, and violent people are attacking it."

BSB version: "From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subject to violence, and the violent lay claim to it."

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u/KeyConsideration2686 — 10 days ago
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John 3:16 in Old Persian

Dear all,

I have entered this bible verse into the online English to Old Persian translation tool:

For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.

This was the automated translation generated:

𐎠𐎺𐎼𐎶 𐏐 𐎲𐎥 𐏐 𐎠𐎺𐎰𐎠 𐏐 𐎭𐎠𐎼𐎹𐎫𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎲𐎢𐎷𐎡𐎶 𐏐 𐎹𐎰𐎠 𐏐 𐎳𐎼𐎠𐎲𐎼𐎫 𐏐 𐎠𐎻𐎠𐎴𐎠𐎶 𐏐 𐎱𐎢𐎰𐎼𐎶 𐏐 𐏃𐎢𐎺𐎠𐎴𐎠𐎶 𐏐 𐎠𐎡𐎺𐎶 𐏐 𐎹𐎰𐎠 𐏐 𐎣𐎠𐎿𐎨𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎠𐎻𐎠𐎡𐎫𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎴𐎠𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎠𐎺𐎶𐎼𐎡𐎹𐎠𐎫𐎡𐎹 𐏐 𐎠𐎰𐎠 𐏐 𐎠𐎴𐎢𐏁𐎡𐎹𐎺𐎠𐎶 𐏐 𐎠𐎼𐎠𐎲𐎠𐎫𐎡𐎹

Transliteration: avaram baga avathā dārayatiy būmim yathā frābarat avānām puθram hauvānām aivam yathā kāsacaiy avāitiy nāiy avamariyātiy athā anušiyavām arābatiy

Could you please comment on the accuracy of this translation?

Feel free to provide your own translation of this bible verse into Old Persian or alternatively you can improve on the automated translation above by leaving a comment below with your translated text.

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u/KeyConsideration2686 — 12 days ago