u/Kmiktauria-Max

So you're all really going to let this slide without batting an eye ? A F-14D Super Tomcat and a French F-16AM as premium aircrafts ? Nothing strikes you as odd ?

So you're all really going to let this slide without batting an eye ? A F-14D Super Tomcat and a French F-16AM as premium aircrafts ? Nothing strikes you as odd ?

I mean, Gaijin could have put the F-14D as a squadron vehicle (or even just in the TT), and could have copied and pasted an M2K like the C-S3 or S4/A2, which wouldn't have required any more effort than a damn Dutch F-16AM that nobody gives a damn about because, if you grind France, it's to play and get French aircrafts. Not American ones. Thanks, Captain Obvious !

Seriously, this game is starting to disappoint me more and more, and I feel like I'm the only one motivated to kick Gaijin's ass...

u/Kmiktauria-Max — 3 days ago

Why do F-15s have their AIM-9 Sidewinder missiles mounted inwards when they have a heavy payload and outwards when they are lighter ?

Does this have anything to do with drag or the aircraft's performance in flight, like the F-16 which mounts its Sidewinder below its wings and its AMRAAM at the end of the wing ? If so, is this physical effect also reproduced in the game and does it impact flight performance ?

u/Kmiktauria-Max — 8 days ago

Suggestion List of Launch Platforms (Current and Future Aircrafts) for Next-Generation Air-to-Air Missiles in War Thunder. (All Nations)

I want to make it clear that NOT all of these aircraft are equal. I’m simply suggesting how they COULD be integrated into the game to balance the forces while respecting history. IF YOU DISAGREE (I probably made few mistakes), let me know and GIVE ME A PUBLIC SOURCE for your information so I CHANGE IT, but PLEASE, DON’T BE AGGRESSIVE or HATEFUL in the comments !
I base my list on this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1tbv31y/all_current_and_future_advanced_missiles_from/ 

This includes all the missiles an aircraft can carry. (From the missiles it carries when its stock to those it acquires when it's full (modifications)). FURTHERMORE, even though some aircraft can carry more modern and efficient missiles, I HAD TO LIMIT SOME OF THEM in order to have a visible progress between each aircraft (rather than going from AIM-9M to AIM-9X B2 or from R-73 to R74M for example). Of course, it goes without saying that these changes require a decompression and a change of br.

🇺🇸 U.S:
AV-8B Plus: AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120A/B/C-5
F-14A: AIM-9H/G; AIM-7F and AIM-54A
F-14B: AIM-9G/L; AIM-7M and AIM-54A/C
F-14D: AIM-9L/M; AIM-7M and AIM-54C/C ECCM/Sealed
F-15A: AIM-9L/M and AIM-7M
F-15C: AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120A/B
F-15C GE: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120D/D-3
F-15E: AIM-9L/M AIM-120B/C-5/C-7
F-15EX: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120D/D-3 (maybe AIM-174B in the future if the Pentagon so decides IRL)
F-16A: AIM-9L
F-16A ADF: AIM-9L and AIM-7M
F-16C: AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120A/B/C-5
F-16CM: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120D/D-3
F-18A: AIM-9L and AIM-7F/M
F-18C (early): AIM-9L/M and AIM-7P
F-18C (late): AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120A/B/C-5
F-18E/F (early): AIM-9X B1; AIM-120C-5/C-7/D
F-18E/F (late): AIM-9X B1/B2; AIM-120D/D-3 and AIM-174B
F-18G: AIM-9X B1/B2; AIM-120D/D-3
F-22A: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120D/D-3
F35A/B/C: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120D/D-3

🇩🇪 GERMANY:
MiG-29 (9-12A): stay the same
MiG-29G: stay the same
F-4F KWS LV: AIM-9L/I and AIM-120A
Tornado SLE: AIM-9L/I-1
F-18C Swiss (early): AIM-9L/M and AIM-7P
F-18C Swiss (late): AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120B/C-5/C-7
EF-2000: AIM-9L/M and AIM-120B/C-5
EF-2000 (AESA): IRIS-T; AIM-120C-5 and Meteor
F-35A Germany: AIM-9 B2 and/or IRIS-T and AIM-120C-5/D (idk for these ones because they are not in service actually)
F-35A Swiss: AIM-9X B1 and AIM-120C-7 (idk too for these ones because they are not in service actually)

​🇷🇺 RUSSIA:
Yak-141: stay the same
MiG-29 (9-12): stay the same
MiG-29 (9-13): stay the same
MiG-29M (9-15): R-73/74; R-27T/ET/R/ER and R-77
MiG-29K (9-31): R-73/74; R-27T/ET/R/ER and R-77
MiG-29SMT (9-19): R-74; R-27ET/ER and R-77/77-1
MiG-31: R-60M; R-40T/R; R-33 and R-37M
MiG-35: R-74; R-27ET/ER and R-77/77-1
Su-25SM3: R-73/74
Su-27: stay the same
Su-27SM: R-73/74; R-27T/ET/R/ER and R-77
Su-30MK2: stay the same
Su-30SM: R-74/74M; R-27ET/ER and R-77-1
Su-30SM2: R-74/74M; R-27ET/ER; R-77-1/77M and R-37M
Su-33: stay the same
Su-34: R-73/74; R-27T/ET/R/ER and R-77
Su-35S: R-74; R-27ET/ER; R-77-1 and R-37M
Su-35SM: R-74/74M; R-27ET/ER; R-77-1/77M and R-37M
Su-57: R-74M/M2; R-77M and R-37M

🇬🇧 UK:
JAS-39C: stay the same
Harrier GR.7: AIM-9L/M and ASRAAM
Sea Harrier FA 2: AIM-9M; ASRAAM and AIM-120B
Tornado F.3 (late): AIM-9L/M; ASRAAM; Skyflash SuperTEMP and AIM-120B
Tornado GR.4: AIM-9L/M and ASRAAM
CF-188A: AIM-9L/M and AIM-7P
F-18A: AIM-9L and AIM-7M
F-18A (late): AIM-9M/X B2; ASRAAM and AIM-120B/C-5/C-7
F-18F: AIM-9M/X B2 and AIM-120C-5/C-7/D
Typhoon FGR.4: AIM-9M; ASRAAM and AIM-120B/C-5
Typhoon (AESA): ASRAAM; AIM-120C-5 and Meteor
F-35A (Australia): AIM-9X B2 and AIM-120C-5/C-7
F-35B: ASRAAM and AIM-120C-5

🇯🇵 JAPAN:
MiG-29N: R-73E and R-27R/ER/T/ET (don’t get R-77 IRL)
SU-30MKM: R-73E; R-27R/ER/T/ET and RVV-AE (don’t get RVV-SD IRL)
F-18D: AIM-9L/M; AIM-7P and AIM-120C-5
F-5TH TCU: AIM-9L/M; Python 4 and Derby
F-16A OCU: AIM-9L/M; Python 4 and AIM-120C-5
JAS 39C: AIM-9M; IRIS-T; AIM-120C-5 and Meteor
F-4EJ Kai: AIM-9L; AAM-3 and AIM-7E-2/F
F-2A ADTW: stay the same
F-2A/B: AAM-3/5 and AAM-4/4B
F-15J/DJ: AAM-3 and AAM-4
F-15J(M) Kai: AAM-3/-5 and AAM-4/4B
F-15JSI: AAM-5/-5B and AAM-4/4B
F-16AJ: stay the same
F-35A: AIM-9X B2 and AIM-120C-7

🇨🇳 CHINA:
F-16A MLU: AIM-9P/L/M and AIM-120C-5
Mirage 2000-5Ei: Magic-2; MICA-IR and MICA-EM
JH-7A: stay the same
J-8F: PL-5B/EII/9B and PL-12
J-10A: PL-5EII/8/9B and PL-12A
J-10C: PL-8/9B/10; and PL-12A/15/17
J-11: R-73E and R-27T1/ET1/R1/ER1
J-11A: stay the same
J-11B: PL-8B/9B and PL-12A
J-15T: PL-8B/9B/10 and PL-12A/15
Su-30MKK: stay the same
J-16: PL-8B/10 and PL-12A/15/17
JF-17: stay the same
J-20: PL-10 and PL-15/17

🇮🇹 ITALY:
MiG-29 Sniper: stay the same
MiG-29 (9-12B): stay the same
JAS39EBS HU C: AIM-9L; IRIS-T; AIM-120C-5 and Meteor
AV-8B Plus: AIM-9L/M and AIM-120B
F-16A ADF: AIM-9L/M and AIM-7M/P
F-2000A: IRIS-T and AIM-120B/C-5
F-2000A (AESA): IRIS-T; AIM-120B/C-5 and Meteor
F-35A/B: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120C-5/C-7

🇫🇷 FRANCE:
F-16A: AIM-9J/L/M
F-16A OCU: AIM-9L/M and Magic-2
F-16AM: AIM-9M and AIM-120B/C-5
Mirage 2000D-R1: stay the same
Mirage 2000D-RMV: Magic-2 and MICA-IR
Mirage 2000C-S4/S5: stay the same
Mirage 2000-5F: Magic-2; MICA-IR and MICA-EM
Mirage 4000: stay the same
Rafale M F1: Magic-2 and MICA-EM
Rafale B/C/M F2: Magic-2; MICA-IR; MICA-EM
Rafale B/C/M F-3R: MICA-IR; MICA-EM and Meteor
Rafale B/C/M F4: MICA-IR/NG IR; MICA-EM/NG EM and Meteor
F35A (Belgium): AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120C-5/C-7

🇸🇪 SWEDEN:
F-16A: AIM-9J/L/M
F-16AM: AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120C-5/C-7
F-18C: stay the same
F-18C MLU 2: AIM-9M/X B2 and AIM-120B/C-7
JA37D: stay the same
JA37DI/DI F21: stay the same
JAS39A: stay the same
JAS39C/D: RB74(M); IRIS-T; RB99
JAS39E: IRIS-T; BR99; AIM-120C-5 and Meteor
F-35A (Nordway and maybe Finland): AIM-9X B2 and AIM-120C-7

​🇮🇱 ISRAEL:
Kurnass 2000: stay the same
Baz: AIM-9L/M; Python 3/4 and AIM-7M
Baz Meshupar: Python 4/5 and AIM-120C-5
F-15I Ra’am: AIM-9M; Python 3/4/5; AIM-120B/C-5 and Derby/I-Derby-ER
Netz/(mod): AIM-9G/L and Python 3
F-16C/D Barak II: AIM-9L/M; Python 3; AIM-7M; AIM-120B and Derby
F-16I Sufa: Python 4/5; AIM-120C-5 and Derby/I-Derby
F-35I Adir: AIM-9X B2 and AIM-120C-7/D

This took me hours to do (because I search sources on internet to avoid writing nonsense even if it’s might not perfect), so if you like it, please put a ⬆️​ to support me through the suffering I endured to do this list.

u/Kmiktauria-Max — 9 days ago

List of Launch Platforms (Current and Future Aircrafts) for Next-Generation Air-to-Air Missiles in War Thunder. (All Nations)

I want to make it clear that NOT all of these aircraft are equal. I’m simply suggesting how they COULD be integrated into the game to balance the forces while respecting history. IF YOU DISAGREE, let me know and GIVE ME A SOURCE for your information so I can CHANGE IT, but PLEASE, DON’T BE AGGRESSIVE in the comments ! This took me hours to do (because I search sources on internet so as not to write just anything), so if you like it, please put a ⬆️​ to support me through the suffering I endured to do this list.
I base my list on this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/Warthunder/comments/1tbv31y/all_current_and_future_advanced_missiles_from/ 

This includes all the missiles an aircraft can carry. (From the missiles it carries when its stock to those it acquires when it's full (modifications)). Furthermore, even though some aircraft can carry more modern and efficient missiles, I had to limit some of them in order to achieve have an visible progress between each aircrafts (rather than going from AIM-9M to AIM-9X B2 or from R-73 to R74M for example). Of course, it goes without saying that this changes requires decompression and a change of br.

🇺🇸​ U.S:
AV-8B Plus: AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120A
F-14A: AIM-9H/G; AIM-7F and AIM-54A
F-14B: AIM-9G/L; AIM-7M and AIM-54A/C
F-14D: AIM-9L/M; AIM-7M and AIM-54C/C ECCM/Sealed
F-15A: AIM-9L/M and AIM-7M
F-15C: AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120A/B
F-15C GE: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120D/D-3
F-15E: AIM-9L/M AIM-120B/C-5/C-7
F-15EX: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120D/D-3 (maybe AIM-174B in the future if the Pentagon so decides IRL)
F-16A: AIM-9L
F-16A ADF: AIM-9L and AIM-120A
F-16C: AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120A/B/C-5
F-16CM: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120D/D-3
F-18A: AIM-9L and AIM-7F/M
F-18C (early): AIM-9L/M and AIM-7P
F-18C (late): AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120A/B/C-5
F-18E/F Block 2: AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120C-7/D

F-18E/F Block 3: AIM-9X B1/B2; AIM-120C-7/D/D-3 and AIM-174B
F-18G: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120D/D-3
F-22A: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120D/D-3
F35A/B/C: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120D/D-3

🇩🇪 GERMANY:
MiG-29 (9-12A): stay the same
MiG-29G: stay the same
F-4F KWS LV: AIM-9L/I and AIM-120A
Tornado SLE: AIM-9L/I-1
F-18C Swiss (early): AIM-9L/M and AIM-7P
F-18C Swiss (late): AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120B/C-5/C-7
EF-2000: AIM-9L/M and AIM-120B/C-5
EF-2000 (AESA): IRIS-T; AIM-120C-5 and Meteor
F-35A Germany: AIM-9 B2 and/or IRIS-T and AIM-120C-5/D (idk for these ones because they are not in service actually)
F-35A Swiss: AIM-9X B1 and AIM-120C-7 (idk too for these ones because they are not in service actually)

​🇷🇺 RUSSIA:
Yak-141: stay the same
MiG-29 (9-12): stay the same
MiG-29 (9-13): stay the same
MiG-29M (9-15): R-73/74; R-27T/ET/R/ER and R-77
MiG-29K (9-31): R-73/74; R-27T/ET/R/ER and R-77
MiG-29SMT (9-19): R-74; R-27ET/ER and R-77/77-1
MiG-31: R-60M; R-40T/R; R-33 and R-37M
MiG-35: R-74; R-27ET/ER and R-77/77-1
Su-25SM3: R-73/74
Su-27: stay the same
Su-27SM: R-73/74; R-27T/ET/R/ER and R-77
Su-30MK2: stay the same
Su-30SM: R-74/74M; R-27ET/ER and R-77-1
Su-30SM2: R-74/74M; R-27ET/ER; R-77-1/77M and R-37M
Su-33: stay the same
Su-34: R-73/74; R-27T/ET/R/ER and R-77
Su-35S: R-74; R-27ET/ER; R-77-1 and R-37M
Su-35SM: R-74/74M; R-27ET/ER; R-77-1/77M and R-37M
Su-57: R-74M/M2; R-77M and R-37M

🇬🇧​ UK:
JAS-39C: stay the same
Harrier GR.7: AIM-9M; ASRAAM and AIM-120B
Tornado F.3 (late): stay the same but with ASRAAM in addition
Tornado GR.4: stay the same but with ASRAAM in addition
CF-188A: AIM-9L/M and AIM-7P
F-18A: AIM-9L and AIM-7M
F-18A (late): AIM-9M/X B2; ASRAAM and AIM-120B/C-5/C-7
F-18F: AIM-9M/X B2; ASRAAM and AIM-120C-5/C-7/D
Typhoon FGR.4: AIM-9M; ASRAAM and AIM-120B/C-5
Typhoon (AESA): ASRAAM; AIM-120C-5 and Meteor
F-35A (Australia): ASRAAM and AIM-120C-5/C-7
F-35B: ASRAAM and AIM-120C-5

🇯🇵 JAPAN:
MiG-29N: R-73E and R-27R/ER/T/ET (don’t get R-77 IRL)
SU-30MKM: R-73E; R-27R/ER/T/ET and RVV-AE (don’t get RVV-SD IRL)
F-18D: AIM-9L/M; AIM-7P and AIM-120C-5
F-5TH TCU: AIM-9L/M; Python 4 and Derby
F-16A OCU: AIM-9L/M; Python 4 and AIM-120C-5
JAS 39C: AIM-9M; IRIS-T; AIM-120C-5 and Meteor
F-4EJ Kai: AIM-9L; AAM-3 and AIM-7E-2/F
F-2A ADTW: stay the same
F-2A/B: AAM-3/5 and AAM-4/4B
F-15J/DJ: AAM-3 and AAM-4
F-15J(M) Kai: AAM-3/-5 and AAM-4/4B
F-15JSI: AAM-5/-5B and AAM-4/4B
F-16AJ: stay the same
F-35A: AIM-9X B2 and AIM-120C-7

🇨🇳 CHINA:
F-16A MLU: AIM-9P/L/M and AIM-120C-5
Mirage 2000-5Ei: Magic-2; MICA-IR and MICA-EM
JH-7A: stay the same
J-8F: PL-5B/EII/9B and PL-12
J-10A: PL-5EII/8/9B and PL-12A
J-10C: PL-8/9B/10; PL-12A/15 and PL-17
J-11: R-73E and R-27T1/ET1/R1/ER1
J-11A: stay the same
J-11B: PL-8B/9B and PL-12A
J-15T: PL-8B/9B/10 and PL-12A/15
Su-30MKK: stay the same
J-16: PL-8B/10; PL-12A/15 and PL-17
JF-17: stay the same
J-20: PL-10; PL-15 and PL-17

​🇮🇹 ITALY:
MiG-29 Sniper: stay the same
MiG-29 (9-12B): stay the same
JAS39EBS HU C: AIM-9L; IRIS-T; AIM-120C-5 and Meteor
AV-8B Plus: AIM-9L/M and AIM-120B
F-16A ADF: AIM-9L/M and AIM-7M/P
F-2000A: IRIS-T and AIM-120B/C-5
F-2000A (AESA): IRIS-T; AIM-120B/C-5 and Meteor
F-35A/B: AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120C-5/C-7

​🇫🇷​ FRANCE:
F-16A: AIM-9J/L/M
F-16A OCU: AIM-9L/M and AIM-120B
F-16AM: AIM-9M and AIM-120B/C-5
Mirage 2000D-R1: stay the same
Mirage 2000D-RMV: Magic-2 and MICA-IR
Mirage 2000C-S4/S5: stay the same
Mirage 2000-5F: Magic-2; MICA-IR and MICA-EM
Mirage 4000: stay the same
Rafale M F1: Magic-2 and MICA-EM
Rafale B/C/M F2: Magic-2; MICA-IR; MICA-EM
Rafale B/C/M F-3R: MICA-IR; MICA-EM and Meteor
Rafale B/C/M F4: MICA-IR/NG IR; MICA-EM/NG EM and Meteor
F35A (Belgium): AIM-9X B1/B2 and AIM-120C-5/C-7

🇸🇪 SWEDEN:
F-16A: AIM-9J/L/M
F-16AM: AIM-9M/X B1 and AIM-120C-5/C-7
F-18C: stay the same
F-18C MLU 2: AIM-9M/X B2 and AIM-120B/C-7
JA37D: stay the same
JA37DI/DI F21: stay the same
JAS39A: stay the same
JAS39C/D: RB74(M); IRIS-T; RB99
JAS39E: IRIS-T; BR99; AIM-120C-5 and Meteor
F-35A (Nordway and maybe Finland): AIM-9X B2 and AIM-120C-7

​🇮🇱 ISRAEL:
Kurnass 2000: stay the same
Baz: AIM-9L/M; Python 3/4 and AIM-7M
Baz Meshupar: Python 4/5 and AIM-120C-5
F-15I Ra’am: AIM-9M; Python 3/4/5; AIM-120B/C-5 and Derby/I-Derby-ER
Netz/(mod): AIM-9G/L and Python 3
F-16C/D Barak II: AIM-9L/M; Python 3; AIM-7M; AIM-120B and Derby
F-16I Sufa: Python 4/5; AIM-120C-5 and Derby/I-Derby
F-35I Adir: AIM-9X B2 and AIM-120C-7/D

u/Kmiktauria-Max — 9 days ago

All Current and Future Advanced Missiles from Each Nation in War Thunder.

I want to make it clear that NOT all of these missiles are equal, and that they AREN'T all historical rivals of one another. I’m simply suggesting how they COULD be integrated into the game to balance the forces.
IF YOU DISAGREE, let me know and suggest something else, but PLEASE, DON’T BE AGGRESSIVE in the comments !

Fox 2:
AIM-9M / R-73 / AAM-3 / PL-8B / Magic-2 / RB 74(M) / Python-3
AIM-9X Block I / IRIS-T / R-74 / AIM-132 (ASRAAM) / AAM-5 / PL-9B / MICA-IR / Python-4
AIM-9X Block II / R-74M / AAM-5B / PL-10 / MICA NG IR / Python-5
(and maybe the R-74M2 for Su-57 only, because it has been redesigned to be carried in an internal cargo hold)

Fox 3:
AIM-120A/B / R-77 / AAM-4 / PL-12 / RB 99 / MICA-EM / Derby
AIM-120C-5/C-7 / R-77-1 / PL-12A / Derby-ER
AIM-120D/D-3 / R-77M / AAM-4B / PL-15 / MICA NG EM / I-Derby-ER

AIM-54A/C / R-33
AIM-174B / R-37M / Meteor / PL-17

u/Kmiktauria-Max — 10 days ago

If the Su-47 Berkut were added to the game, what weapons would it have, given that it never carried any ? Would other nations recived an equivalent as the U.S. YF-23 aircraft for example ?

u/Kmiktauria-Max — 11 days ago

Why are these things 13.3br instead of 13.7 like the Su-27SM ? Do the two fewer Fox-3 missiles really worth for a 0.3br decrease ?

Is 2 R77 less a real reason for a 0.3br decrease ?

u/Kmiktauria-Max — 12 days ago

Why ??? Just why ?!? Who is the math incompetent at Gaijin who put F-18's before F-14's ? Is it too difficult to know that the number 14 comes before 18 ???

u/Kmiktauria-Max — 15 days ago

- Mirage F1 MF2000:

This aircraft is an Moroccan modernization of the French Mirage F1. The MF2000 receives a Thales RC400 / RDY-3 radar, derived from the radar of the Mirage 2000-5, a fully modernized cockpit with HUD and modern RWR and a new weaponry with Mica Air-to-Air missiles and guided Air-to-Ground weapons. Like its homologous JA37DI F21, it's a gen 3 airfighter equipped with fox 3 (so it would be 13.0br) but, Mica's is considered as the best short range fox 3 missile. For this reason, it could be placed at 13.3 instead of 13.0br. MF2000 has a good probability of being added.

- Mirage 2000EG:

This aircraft is basically an export Mirage 2000C-S5 for Greece. Same fly performance, same weaponry, same gameplay, same br (12.3). It could be an excellent premium aircraft. Like its homologous F-18C early, it's a gen 4 airfighter equipped with fox 1 and 2 only. It could definitvely be added.

- Mirage 2000-9:

This aircraft is an improved Mirage 2000-5F for United Arab Emirates. It is also considered as the best Mirage 2000 ever made because it's the last modernized version to date. It has the same fly performance and the same Air-to-Air weaponry as the -5F but the main differences are in its new RDY-2 radar (-5F got the RDY), it also got last gen guided Air-to-Ground weapons (Mica's), new electronique and new ECM. If these differences are well modeled in the game, it could be at 14.3 instead of being at the same br than the -5F. Like its homologous premuim Su-30's, it's a gen 4 airfighter equipped with fox 3. But this version would be 14.0 or 14.3br that is a pretty hight br for an premuim in the actual meta. It could be added but their is less probability than the MF2000 or M2000 EG or even the F-16AM.

- Rafale F1/F2:

These aircraft are both a previous generation French Rafale than the one actually in game (F3-R). Let's start with F1 variant: It was only for French Navy, it get the RBE2 PESA radar compared to the F3-R that get the RBE2 AESA. F1 variants don't get any Air-to-Ground capability. It has older electronics components (RWR, ECM and different HUD) compared to F3-R. It get only Mica EM and Magic 2 as fox 2 Air-to-Air missiles (no Mica IR). In the actual meta, it would be probably 14.3br.

F2 variant compared to the F3-R get and RBE2 PESA radar instead of the RBE2 AESA on R3-R, F2 variant get Air-to-Ground capability compared to F1. It has older electronics components (RWR, ECM and different HUD) and older CAS equipement (as older pod or guided weapons) compared to F3-R, also F3-R variant should have the Meteor fox 3 Air-to-Air missile (that will probably come with R37M and AIM-174B/AIM-260) that F2 can't get (only Magic 2 and Mica EM and IR). For this reason, in the actual meta, it would be probabily 14.7br.

Actually I don't think that an Rafale could be added as a Top Tier premuim aircraft due to the to high br it would get and the small differences between F3-R (in the actual meta) but, if it have to be an Rafale, I think it would be the F1 variant. There is a very low probability that one of these Rafale are add to the game as a premuim for now.

- F-16AM: This aircraft is a Dutch F-16. It's EXACTLY the same as the belgium F-16AM but with a different skin and flag. It would be 13.7br like the Belgium one. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see this jet take the place of the French Rank 8 premium aircraft 'cause of the Gaijin's love for copy-pasting and easy money. I hope it won't be this one. Very probable to be added.

Personnally I hope for the Mirage 2000EG at 12.3br and pray for that it's not an F-16. Which one would you prefer to see in game ? Which one do you think is gonna be added ? Tell me if you think that another aicraft could be added.

u/Kmiktauria-Max — 15 days ago

a lot of people are complaining about Copy/Paste for premuim but, for me, it's definitvly not a problem, and even the other way around, I think it's the perfect thing to do because in and of itself you aren't buying a premuim aircraft for that specific aircraft, but to grind the tech tree. However there is some exceptions such as the A-6E TRAM, the F-20A Tigershark, the Sea Vixen, the L-39ZA Albatros or the Hawk 209 (I'm just listing the ones that are currently available, but there are others) that you can only obtain by purchasing them on the premuim market and that's a problem for me.

We should not be forced to spend real money in game to obtain a specific aircraft in my opinion.

In addition, I don't understand why Gaijin put top tier foreign aircraft as premuim for few countries instead of an aircraft manufactured by that country. For me, if you spend hours or even days grinding a country, you should at least have the opportunitty to grind it with an aircrafts made by this country. For example:

🇺🇸​USA🇺🇸​: Have a lot of premium aircrafts made by them. (So, no problem)

🇩🇪Germany🇩🇪: Have only Tornado IDS that is a premium aircraft made by them. (but that's ok because they only made Tornado and EFT 2000 but, the snail can't put EFT 2000 as a premuim and that's logical, so, no problem)

🇷🇺​USSR🇷🇺​: Have a lot of premium aircraft made by them. (So, no problem)

🇬🇧UK🇬🇧: Have only Harrier that is a premium aircraft made by them (but, Gaijin could add a Tornado instead of F-18.)

🇯🇵Japan🇯🇵: An aircraft that were from Japan (T-2 Early) have been removed to be replace by an U.S. one. Just, why... ? Why didn't let it ? The only plane from Japan now is the F-2A but it's basically a redesigned F-16 with a weaponry slightly different.

🇨🇳China🇨🇳: Have a lot of premium aircraft made by them. (So, no problem)

🇮🇹Italy🇮🇹: Have AMX A-1A (plane for CAS, not for air-to-air) and Ariete but could get Tornado for Rank VII.

🇫🇷France🇫🇷: Got Milan for Rank VI but have been removed and Mirage F1C-200. (Could get a Mirage IIIE from an foreign country instead of the american F-5 (NF-5A is different from the U.S variant but stay an aircraft at the start made by U.S. and not by France))

🇸🇪Sweden🇸🇪: Have a lot of premium aircrafts made by them. (So, no problem)

🇮🇱Israël🇮🇱: Never made aircrafts made by themseves (only put modifications on already existing aircraft). So U.S. F-16A (Netz) is ok but Gaijin could let the Kfir Canard.

Do you think same or am I alone ?

u/Kmiktauria-Max — 16 days ago

So, let's keep simple to not lose anybody.

For Air Realistic Battle:

AIM-120A/B are simply better in short range (20km and less) because of their better turn rate due to their biggest fins.

AIM-120-C5 not worth it because it obtain smaller fins (so a turn rate not as good as A/B models) to gain some range and speed but the effective range and speed that it gain is to minimal to see a real difference, it's golbaly the same but with less turn rate.

AIM-120D is globaly is C5 with GPS guidance addition that give it a much better track than the others variants of AIM-120. It's the best AMRAAM for BVR combat (Beyond-Visual-Range) so further than 20km.

To resume:

Take A/B variants for Air Realistic Battle because they are those who perform better in this game mode. Do not use C5 model. If you have access to AIM-120D, you can take just a few to send them before reaching the battlefield or a lot of them to play your aircraft as a flying bus that send very long range missile as the F-14 with AIM-54 Phonix (although I don't recommend this method because it won't be as effective as Phonix).

For Air Simulator Battle:

It's globaly the same thing as the Air RB except that any missiles in sim are always less efficient than in RB (that for all missiles, not just a few. You can shoot any msl in RB that will hit and do the same in sim with same conditions that won't hit because they have a more realistic behavior, so, it's harder to obtain a hit). In addition, in top tier jets in SB, their is more BVR combat than close range combat, for this reason, my advice is to take in majority AIM-120D and might be just a few of A/B models for close range (like 7km or less. Remember that in sim a msl combat with a range of 20km is not a close range combat but an BVR one, because you can't use your eyes, the plane doesn't appear like in RB.)

To resume:

Take A/B variants for Air Sim Battle if you only have A/B/C5. Do not use C5 because their isn't a real adventage to use it compare to A/B models. If you have access to AIM-120D, you can take them because BVR combat is a lot more present in sim than in RB but keep arround 2 short range msl (like AIM-120A/B or AIM-9M) in cas of an close range combat or even dogfight.

I hope that will help you, have a great day.

u/Kmiktauria-Max — 18 days ago