u/Legal-Comedian8000

I posted previous elements of my return story, today happened the third chapter. Short introduction, my main is Gevlon Goblin, I played in 2014-16 and returned 3 weeks ago. I planned to make ISK in a highsec static C1 wormhole doing PI.

I would link kill reports but there aren't any. I never uploaded API, since I only expected losses and didn't want to give out my locations. More interestingly, my enemies did the same thing.

They are Nosferatu Security Foundation [NOSF], an alliance-less corp and Nabula Rasa [RASA] alliance

So the story started with me scanning down an empty C1. No structures, no PI colonies, sites untouched. POCOs belonged to some random corp with 1 member, no alliance, no activity. I set up my tower and started hitting the first POCO. Some of my pilots were killed and then a ransom letter arrived. You could read about that.

I figured I got unlucky to get in a wormhole watched by pirates, unassembled my tower and left. Scanned down another wormhole, occupied by a tiny corp in an Athanor. Returning noob me had no idea about citadels, there was no POS, so I assumed it's just a moon mining deployable. This time I was more careful, set up a small tower and killed only one POCO. I figured, if anyone fights or even complains, I leave. No one did, so I set up a real tower and reinforced the rest of the POCOs. In the meantime I figured out what an Athanor is and asked reddit if it's OK to kill it. Reddit said, that they must fight and they deserve to lose it if they don't. So I went for the timer and lost some pilots. I chatted with one of the pilots involved and he said he just came for random content. He may even told the truth. I never cared to check the loss reports if there is a pattern between the other killers. Mistake.

I scanned down the third C1 and was even more careful. It was dead empty, the POCO owner corp had some activity years ago and died down to one member. I sent him a mail. I reinforced a few POCOs. No response. I killed those POCOs, moved in and reinforced the rest. Today they came out of reinforce, and I went to kill them. I was super careful. I criticaled the static yesterday and closed any K162. Today the critical static was still there and there were no incoming K162s. No one could come in. No one on dscan. I attacked 2 POCOs with 2 groups of pilots at once, figuring that if I missed something or someone just rolls into my WH, he can catch only one team. Both were bubbled at the same time and killed, save for a lucky pilot who warped out the last second. These pirates moved in days ago and set up logoff traps around the POCOs.

This is when I first checked zkillboard and when it was empty, the loss reports of my pilots in game. I found:

• Cindy killed in WH1 by NOSF and in WH2 by NOSF

• Caitlin was killed by RASA in an "unrelated" incident in a C2 by RASA and in WH3 by NOSF and Nabula Rasa

• Jeremy was killed in WH2 by NOSF and randoms and in WH3 by NOSF and RASA

• Jenna was killed in WH1 by NOSF, in WH2 by NOSF and in WH3 by NOSF and RASA

• Botslayer was killed in WH1 by a random, in WH2 by NOSF and randoms and in WH3 by NOSF

• Rorka was killed in WH3 by NOSF and RASA

• Doomlord was the lucky one, he was never killed

• Serable was killed in WH3 by NOSF and RASA

• MrVilla was killed in WH3 by NOSF

All 3 wormholes I was attacked by the same pirates. In the second, there were randoms in the mix. One of my pilots were killed by them in a C2 when she closed a K162 and got stuck there. By the same pirates, I just didn't care to check.

First, I bless my luck that I scanned the WHs myself, because otherwise I'd blame the WH locator service for leading me into trap WHs. These were 3 random C1s, one lived in, 2 empty, all 3 having POCOs under different, alliance-less corps and was attacked by the same pirates.

They don't post their kill reports on Zkill. They never fished for tears. All they wanted is ransom. These aren't your ordinary lolPvP-ers. These guys probably make billions from ransoming small corps. They probably do PI on their alts in some WHs, not in the 2 empties, that's for sure, I checked for colonies. They wrote in their ransom mail that they want to make PI more profitable to members by killing others and keeping WHs empty, but I doubt that makes much sense, considering most PI is done elsewhere, mostly in highsec where the low efficiency is beaten by the sheer number of players.

The guy who sent the ransom notes called themselves IPPU.

So what I will do is exactly what I wrote to my last mail to him. I leave WH space, as it's clear that they have extensive recon network. They would find me again. I will return to highsec and trading. I made 3 trillions back in 2014-16 with that and I will do it again. When I have a trillion war chest, I will raise a mercenary army and eradicate this filth. Not only for revenge. Their whole business model is based on locking out small corps from low class WHs. FC is now updating the sites to lure more people in, but they can only get daytrippers. Corps can't move in and start learning the ropes, because these pirates kill them or force them into slavery which isn't fun way to live in a game, so they probably quit WH space or the game. All these pirates leave behind are empty systems.

After eradicating them, players can move into the now empty WHs and start learning J-space life. I will pay mercs to protect them if this filth try to rebuild and evict them. C1 WHs will be living again and those who graduate from C1s will bring this life to higher WH classes.

This isn't just revenge. This is about making J-space better. Because as I look back to my 2014-16 life the happiest I was not during large nullsec wars, earning trillions, getting some fame or even when I took part in evicting Goons from nullsec. Actually that made me miserable and I quit the game the moment the Goons were in lowsec. I was happy when I was living in my little C1. That is my home in EVE. That is what I came back for. That is what the pirates took from me. I will reclaim it and will help others to do the same.

I made some calculations and the result doesn't feel right. I ask you to spot my error if any and also add your thoughts on the conclusion. .

3 months of omega + 200 PLEX in the EVE Online store is 48 EUR. .

3 months of omega + 200 PLEX in the NES is 1400 PLEX, or 6.7B ISK. .

50M ISK is 1/134 part of that. 48/134 = 0.36 EUR. So if someone rats/mines for 50M/hour, he is saving 0.36 EUR/hour. Sure, if he likes that activity, then it's enjoyable gaming. But if he just farms for some in-game goal, that looks extremely inefficient. .

Even if he multiboxes 10 accounts, that's just 3.6 EUR/hour. Way below the minimum wage even in the poorest parts of the EU (or the poorest state of the USA). .

So the conclusion: unless someone runs an extremely large multibox farm, or runs a bot, no-fun farming is much worse than doing any real life extra work (like Uber) and buying PLEX in the store, spending more time in game with fun activity (mostly PvP)

I started posting my EVE adventure here receiving mindblowingly positive and welcoming responses. The things I wrote were true, but far from being whole truth.

I am not the starry eyed newbro I wish to be. I played this game a decade ago. I left on bad terms with no intention to ever return. Then youtube recommended me some EVE videos and for some reason I clicked. Then the next. Then the next. I started longing for the good parts of EVE. Because there were many. Watching the videos it seemed to me that EVE got stronger in the good parts and fixed most of the bad. The community changed too, for much better. Not just the kind welcoming I received, but the rejection of RMT (the case of Loru). After all, a decade passed. While I recognized some old names, most names were new. The most toxic ones, including the one who made me quit are long gone. The new people seem to do better than the old ones.

I'm not the same man I used to be. I cringe at most of my old things. Therapy helps. Having a loving marriage helps. But one cannot shed his old self, the old grudges, the old wrongs.

Except in a video game - I thought. All I need to do is start fresh account(s) and no one will know who I was, only who I am. Sure it costs real money and real grind to get good pilots, but it will worth it if I can enjoy this one-of-a-kind game. One server where your actions matter to the whole playerbase. That's what my first reddit question was about, since I had no idea what changes they implemented in the last decade. The commenters assured me that yes, the best part is still here.

My plan was to play the way the current me wants to play. Get ISK. Figure out a method to make ISK not just for myself, but for my corp/alliance mates. When I have such method, join a land holding alliance (may it be Sov or de facto ownership of WHs or lowsec regions). Help them get rich and therefore be able to field doctrines they couldn't afford before. Fly with them as a member. A friend maybe.

When my wife asked what kind of game I play now, I told her my old story and my new plans. Then she replied with the title: "One cannot build friendship on a lie". Also, that my past is still mine and people have the right to know before befriending me, or inviting me to their club.

So, once upon a time, I was Gevlon Goblin, writer of the long abandoned blog greedygoblin.blogspot.com. You can check the bio of the character, I added this reddit account.

I spent this evening to reconnect my old accounts to the new ones - 31 accounts, I can explain. When I left EVE, I sent away my last trillion ISK to the participants of my last adventure. Yet, I found some assets on these accounts, like my old main sitting in an officer fit Tengu, a couple injectors lying around, there might be a Nyx or two on one of the alts I can't even recognize, so I guess, after I tallied up everything, I'll be financially comfortable.

I'm sorry I didn't open with the whole truth. Hiding behind a new persona seemed easier. But my wife is right, "easy" and "right" are different things.

So, hello reddit-eve, I'm Gevlon, former Goon hater, miner ganker and multi-trillonare.

9 days ago I posted a question about EVE, a game I found on youtube. https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1vowu6p/is_there_a_way_to_matter_in_eve/

I received the most welcoming and helpful comments ever in any game, so I tried it. I got some directions toward the industrialist-trader path which I liked very much.

2 days ago I posted about my experimental business with very low stakes: https://old.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1vvkypg/newbies_first_business_ventures/

They worked like a charm, so today I took advantage of a sale and started a second omega account with MCT. I also bought 1500 PLEX for starter ISK, to set up my business, once the characters are trained.

Until then my main raise my Jita standings and train into a freighter. If my plans are correct, I'll never have to pay for the game again.

Wish me luck!

I've recently done the career agent missions on two characters. They give 0.8 faction standings and 4.0 standings with the school corp. With Connections IV that allows you to start doing lvl 4 missions for the school corp.

The missions are piss easy if you have a meta-fitted long range frigate with some tracking upgrade. One shot, one rat kill.

So the tip is simple: after you've done it once, leave your fitted ships behind for combat, scanning and mining (venture). You make new alt, contract the ships to him and he'll do all the missions in 3 hours.

THEY LIED!!!

Highsec is not safe. Not at all. As someone suggested to me on my last post I went to do some exploration on my Jita trader's Heron.

My future main is training Caldari Frigate 5 for Buzzard and has no other skills yet. I remap her after it's done as all scanning and PI skills are Int based.

So I found some wormholes. But inside nothing interesting. The owners picked them clean besides ore sites.

But in highsec I found some relic and data sites. The relic sites gave 0.1M loot. The data site gave 4.2M on its first container. When I went for the second, those nasty guristas appeared. I figured I keep hacking until my shields are low, like in the newbie missions. Instead, they oneshotted me.

Nasty Guristas, you'll pay for this! One day I come back and hack in something much bigger. I googled ships that are good at hacking. Tengu - Covert Reconfiguration came up. Revenge is coming Guristas! (in 2027, because that ship needs some training)

PS: I had the last laugh. I docked my pod and got a free corvett. Warped back to the site and the Guristas were gone and in the Heron wreck they left some modules and the 4.4M loot that I took from the first container. That will pay for replacement Herons.

Few days ago I asked a few questions about EVE Online, a game I found on youtube. All I got here was helpful information, suggestions. Thank you!

So I downloaded and kept trying the game for two days in alpha and also watched more videos. After the scanning training missions, I was sold. I bought 3 months of omega and 3 months of alt training.

My first character will be a trader - motivated by the Sir Smashalot video, this character is doing lvl 2 distribution missions for Caldary Navy, to get standings for broker relations.

My second character - who will be my main - is training for a Buzzard. In two weeks, she'll leave for WH space to scan and hack.

Thank you guys for being so welcoming!

At first I'd like to thank this awesome community the 100+ answers to my question yesterday. All of them helpful, I didn't get trolling. You are very welcoming players, that's a huge plus to EVE.

So, I'm not a player yet, I'm searching for my next game where I put all my gaming time. I found EVE on youtube.

I've watched the videos recommended to me yesterday which lead me to discover PLEX. So here is my dilemma: I can make 10 Euros an hour. On the EVE Online Store, for 10 Euros you can buy 200 PLEX. According to EVE Tychoon, you can sell a PLEX for 4.6-4.8M ISK. So in an hour I must make 940M ISK with industry or farming, or I'm better off taking an extra shift at my work and buy PLEX.

Sure, if the farming activity is fun itself, then it's gaming. But honestly, watching mining and ratting videos I doubt they are my bread and butter. Planet factories and hacking are more interesting to me.

So my question is: if my main focus is PVP and helping my team with hauling and stuff, should I bother with farming or should I just work extra shifts, buy PLEX, use it to buy PVP ships?

Hi,

I'm not a player (yet). I found EVE after youtube recommended me a video about $700K was lost in a video game battle.

I've been watching some recent videos about EVE. They are all about either:

• how to make ISK

• how to find a corp to chill

• some battle where one guy leads a fleet into victory or defeat

You can make video game money in every video game. You can chill in every video game. You can join in a zerg in every MMO.

EVE seems to be special because you can make a difference yourself - according to the hype. I watched a video about Pandemia Hord being no more. Someone made that happen.

My question is to the people actually playing: is it true, or is it just a marketing pitch? How many of you - or someone you personally know - made something that affected the EVE world. Or is that reserved to some super-veterans and all I can hope for is making video game money and being in someone's zerg defeating someone else's zerg?

Please advise me.

Hi,

I'm playing this game for two weeks now and loving it. I played a buch of ships from different lines.

As I do battles, my "acces level" increase and recently I reached the one that gives ranked battles. I also got a tutorial mission to it. I didn't have a T8 ship to participate, so I picked the ship with highest tier and most XP, the Fubuki and played exclusively on that, with all economic signals on. I quickly got the Akasuki, which was HARD until my captain reached lvl 10 and I could decrease my detection range below 7 km. With all the signals, today I researched the Kagero. It was expensive, I had to sell a bunch of ships, including the Akasuki to be able to buy and equip it with the recommended modules.

Oh boy, that 5.4km detection range is sweet. So are the 16 torpedoes at once using torpedo reloader. I used my collected free XP to upgrade the ship modules and without playing a single random battle, off I went to ranked.

And now I'm rank 5 (in the bronze leaque) and loving it. All enemies are the same tier as I am, unlike in randoms. Poor Akasuki was deleted by Kitekazes far too many times. I'm getting lots of rewards for playing ranked and I'm still running economic signals, so if I finish bronze, I can go to silver with the next ship. I just hope I'll earn enough credits to buy it without selling the Kagero, as that's my favorite of the ships I played.

So fellow newbies, be brave and go ranked!