u/Liefvikingmonster2

I'm curious to know.

I was recently on /r/IBS and I noted that at least in that sub, it seems some people have come around to the idea that Carnivore might be a good technique to "reset" the gut on a short term basis.

My comments didn't get deleted nor was I banned like in other subs such as my beloved /r/ulcerativecolitis

So that's progress. A few years ago reactions would have been very different.

But people are still anti-meat only dieting. For example, the mods labeled my personal experience that I shared as potentially "dangerous" with no reasons given.

It was interesting to hear why, so I posed the question and got some answers.

One comment was like, "there are no historical facts in support of this woe."

Another said, "it's presented as a cure all" which strangely enough I never stated such a thing.

Some common others...

"There is no evidence that it works"

"No long term studies."

"Red meat damages the gut."

"Your body needs carbs and fiber."

Some are flat out wrong while others are so absurd it's hard to believe that people actually think this way.

But anyway, I'm curious about what others are encountering these days that is different from what we're used to.

My guess is that things are evolving, albeit slowly.

I try to keep a cooler head about it these days.

But I experienced abuse (and yes, dished some back myself) during the early days when friends and family got wind that I was doing this.

I inadvertently brought it upon myself out of naivety. I thought I found life's best cheat code (which it is) and I wanted everyone I cared about to get in on this. I thought if I could just explain it, they would understand.

So, so wrong about that. Like winning the lotto and no one wants your money.

Look, when someone says they're vegetarian, no one openly questions this.

"You just eat vegetables? Wow. You're going to get thyroid dysfunction."

Who would say that? Right? No one.

If anything they chime in encouraging platitudes. Maybe saying they wish they could be as disciplined or "that's wonderful, I love vegetables, too." Perhaps the occasional "I couldn't do it, but I respect it."

But it is fucking open season on us savages when it comes to this way of eating.

They just blurt out the most inane "facts" as if they think we're all juvenile delinquents that never heard this BS before.

• "you need your fiber or you're going to get colorectal cancer"

• "I bet your cholesterol is through the roof"

• "that's a fast way to a heart attack"

• "did you know the Mediterranean diet..blah blah"

• "a balanced diet is key, it's basic science bro"

• "you're going to give yourself gout"

And my favorite "are you trying to kill yourself?"

That's just some of the comments I got to my face. God knows what's been said behind my back but I'm sure it included Joe Rogan in there somewhere.

I was ill prepared for that amount of hostility and passive aggressive commentary that I would encounter in my personal life.

At one point I was trying to convince some close buds that it's safe and fine, and they were trying to convince me that it absolutely wasn't, and that I was crazy for doing this Internet fad thing.

"I'm not retarded, you fucking idiots. I reversed my Ulcerative Colitis with this shit. How exactly does that work if I'm damaging my body by not eating broccoli?"

That was something I may or may not have written in a particularly heated moment in our WhatsApp group.

Sigh.

And if someone was kind enough not to interrupt me, they would more often than not have this incredulous look on their face, as if realizing for the first time that I am indeed a moron for ignoring the nutritional recommendations to justify eating steak every day.

I'm a glutinous fool that doesn't care about the environment nor my personal health, and now sharing misinformation.

AND yet...

Nearly all my pals are overweight, suffer from depression, bipolar, anxiety, have sleep disturbances, sleep apnea, elevated blood pressure, cavities, migraines, ocular issues, back or knee problems and all of them, absolutely all of them, have a daily cocktail of meds to manage their symptoms. It's the aging process, man.

But hey, they are all eating a fucking healthy ass diet from overpriced Whole Foods and getting their daily jogs in.

Yeah right.

A few even have vegetarian wives..one of them is borderline obese and recently had emergency surgery to remove her gall bladder that ossified and got infected. The other suffers anxiety and panic attacks, despite being a committed health nut.

Gotta love those phytochemicals!

Just ever so insidiously damaging the body so no one notices until decades later.and you suddenly need SSRIs to get through the day and Xanax for a new fear of flying.

The health and food system in this country is absolutely fucking up all my loved ones, but they don't want to hear it for me.

No gout. Sleep apnea gone. No BP meds. No gall or kidney stones. No back pains. Anxiety lifted. No fucking Ulcerative Colitis that required monthly infusions with heavy duty immunosuppressants.

And I play basketball and soccer with guys 20 years younger. But none of that counts.

None of that makes them wonder that maybe, just maybe, I'm on to something?

My brother said "anecdotal stories are not sufficient scientific evidence". Never actually looked up any studies on nutrition until I told him about what I'm doing but a couple of weeks of asking ChatGPT and he's convinced I'm wrong and he's right.

Expect the same in your world.

My suggestion is don't talk about it unless someone really asks. But be prepared to be told that you're nutz.

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Protein is all the hype so marketing on various packaged foods is trying to convince you to buy their product. Use a simple rule of 10 to see if it's truly a 'good source of protein' or 'high protein'. If you multiply the number of grams of protein by 10 and it is higher than the number of calories, it can be a reasonably good source of protein.

For example, you look at a snack bar that is 100 calories. It says 'high protein' and has 6g per serving. 6 x 10 = 60. That's less than 100 so not as good of a source. Find one that has 10g or more. Easy math to support your decisions. Not advising what or how much you should have but just a way to sift through marketing nonsense.

In logistics, deadheading is the term used when say a transport ship returns with empty cargo.

If you're getting up and moving to another part of your home, grab something that doesn't belong on the way there. You're the ship of your home. Avoid empty hands.

Maybe drop a basket or two in each room to drop shit you need to put away later if it doesn't have a clear forever home. But whatever you do, don't go empty handed.

You'd be surprised how you get done when you take shit that doesn't belong on the way the fridge, or bathroom.

Edit: Well this one blew up my inbox. Thanks everyone. If anyone has any advice on what to do about THAT, let me know. 😂😭

There are these tasks that supposedly improve loot quality? You by the spot where you can get storage boxes and gas?

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Is that shit I need to do to unlock this finding digital sensors?

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Or something else?

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I have never seen one..been running metro a lot and nothing.

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PvE...I know I know.

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Thanks.

Tldr: don't be a dick, it doesn't help.

Most of us here remember that at one point we didn't eat this way. We had a number of unexamined, preconceived notions as to what a healthy diet was.

Many of us were sure as shit convinced we knew enough, even if we didn't eat healthy to whatever standard we thought it should be, we were nevertheless confident that we understood the basics.

We now know that we have been systematically misled.

We have clear and convincing evidence of historical corruption of our food system, published in the very journals of medical science that bring us near daily and continued updates on the "importance of fiber" and "dangers of meat."

Frankly, unless someone goes out of their way to study evidence in favor of a carnivore WOE from a variety of other scientific disciplines, it seems to me it's near impossible to have this information come across as a reasonable dietary intervention, much less the diet most likely to revitalize our health and save our lives.

That's a lot stacked against the average person being convinced of this way of eating as being healthy. And so in accepting this horrible reality, please keep in mind that you are talking to people. Many ill people.

If we don't preserve the dignity of their existence, if we personally attack them and treat them in the shitty ways that we are often treated for this WOE..we don't win any arguments.

We just give them the ammo to continue to lambast Carnivore and who knows where that all leads to.

Perhaps we'll be more likely to get through to them if we just take a moment not to be so reactive and condescending.

With dignity.

I'm playing pve and it's happened twice this week where the game basically crashes and all my gear, gun, keys, everything gone.

Sucks.

Pvp at least you get a chance to jump back in and recover where you got dumped.

But pve..it's nah, get f'd.

Good times. Good times.

I found the one that's on that balcony facing out towards one of the extraction points.

I'm running around smuggling tunnel, merc'in anything that moves but I can't find the second scarecrow. I've done like 6 murderous missions and nada. I think I'm blind.

Driving me crazy. Halp. Thanks.

After murdering scavs left and right and mall boss, I spend 10 mins running around in the basement and I can't find the cardboard box to put the UV lamps.

I did find one box under the stairwell that I put the energy efficienct bulbs but not the other. Totally stuck here.

Anyone got a suggestion?

Edit: FOUND IT!! PRAISE JESUS..holy crap. It's on a stairway that's not exactly opposite of where the original was ..same wall side of the mall.

One of you suggested I just walk the perimeter and that did it.

Thank you all! I finally move on with my life.

This might be an odd question but anyone got some recommendations for..uhm.. carnivore friendly themed flicks?

Watching The Revenant with Leo. So far so good.

I'm not going to break rule 4, mods. Relax. I am just documenting personal experience by sharing what has happened to me thus far.

I was diagnosed with moderate to severe UC when COVID started in 2020. I was on Remicade and then Avsola from mid year 2020 until last Feb. I stopped AFTER two years of medically supervised tapering down. I was at half dose, sub therapeutic level, for the prior 6 months before I fully stopped in Feb of this year.

My calprotectin went from 500s when I had to be hospitalized during that worst of it, to stabilizing at 57, to 18 as of most recently done this past month.

I'm about three and half months fully off all meds now.

I don't have any symptoms. No bloating. No blood. No urgency. No mucosal discharges. No sleep disturbances.

My infusion nurses and my GI doc think I'm insane and they fully expect me to be back.

We'll see.

I'll be taking another calprotectin at 6 months and then at the year. Then I intend to visit my GI doc for a colonoscopy. The last colonoscopy was last year: no signs of active UC.

I know I'm not out of the woods here. First year 30% - 40% experience a flare and complications from attempting to restart.

I asked my GI doc to consider making me a case study but she wasn't moved to do so...so that's why I'm dropping a post here.

See y'all again in a few months.

Entire shelves of organizing work..gone.

Weird directional anomalies happening during gun battles.

Nevermind losing stuff because you drop it on a hill side.

Audio hallucinations...like I drink a soda and the swallowing sound sticks to the area (which is a funny and creepy issue).

Something is also screwy with the way the game allows the boundary to appear, as it glitches awake when I'm well within the play boundary I set.

So something is just up with this wipe because there are definitely more issues than previous wipes.

Im curious, has anyone experience these?

It's getting close to unplayable and certainly frustrating.

I need some help. I was able to drop off two sausages, each in respective boxes in the two guard towers.

But no idea where the third one is. The task description is vague and kind of incorrect. "Put one in the watch tower and the rest in brown boxes around the checkpoint."

There are two watch towers.

This might be a dumb question but did I just kill some players in my PvE game?

I saw the list of scav scav scav then player bill or something like that.

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Tonight my adult league soccer team won the first game of the season and I put in one of the winning goals.

Frankly, thanks to everyone on this sub, including those I disagree with but respect their perspectives, for providing a respectful space of encouragement and support.

I know this diet doesn't resolve all things and it's hard for others to accept it.

But I never thought in my wildest dreams that I, "Pops" over here at 51, would be playing this intensely at soccer with a bunch of 35 year olds.

This shit still amazes me. And I'm thankful for this sub.