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It seems like Scream 2’s original script may have inspired the Amber and Richie storyline in Scream (2022). In that script, Hallie and Derek meet on a message board, bond over their hatred of Sidney, and want to create their own sequel based on real-life events.

That got me thinking: what exactly would Amber and Richie’s ending have been if they had actually planned things out further?

In the original Scream 2 script, Hallie and Derek basically wanted to die or face the death penalty because, in their minds, that would mean they had “won.” It’s also made clear that they met through a message board and that they weren’t the only people there who wanted Sidney dead. There was essentially an entire community of people like them.

I’ve always wondered if that idea could have eventually tied into the original Scream 3 script, where Stu was supposedly running a whole cult of Ghostface followers.

So what do you guys think Amber and Richie’s ultimate plan would have been after killing everyone? Would they have wanted to die as part of their “movie,” get arrested and become infamous, or were they planning something much bigger involving other Ghostface followers?

It feels like MTV has a habit of cancelling or quietly shelving series just when they start getting interesting. There are so many shows that I wish had gotten more time to develop instead of being cut short.

What MTV series do you wish had gotten more seasons? Which shows do you think were cancelled or shelved too soon, and what are your theories about why MTV pulled the plug?

This randomly comes back to my mind every time I rewatch Scream 4, and I’ve never asked anyone about it before, but Reddit feels like a safe space 😂

I remember being way too young to see Scream 4, so I watched it on some site that had a CAM bootleg uploaded. I vividly remember a shot of Jill coming out from underneath Kirby’s bed after Sidney tells her to hide under there, and before Sidney comes looking for her.

I swear it was literally just a shot of Jill wiggling/crawling out from under the bed. I’m so certain I remember it that I could probably draw the exact shot if I were remotely good at drawing LOL.

But whenever I watch Scream 4 now, that shot isn’t there. I’m assuming it was in the theatrical release, but I genuinely have no idea anymore.

Is there ANYONE else who remembers this? 😭 I feel like I’m going crazy. It definitely wasn’t in the version I’ve watched since, but I distinctly remember seeing it in that old bootleg/CAM version.

Please tell me someone else remembers this!!

I’ve seen a couple of people mention that the music used during scenes when the show originally aired is sometimes completely different on the DVD release. Is that actually true?

Does it happen with every song, or just certain ones? I’m assuming it’s something to do with music licensing, but I’d be interested to know if anyone knows for sure.

Also, does anyone know whether the song used in this specific TikTok is still included on the DVD version?

There was a channel dedicated to reruns of Moesha but it disappeared a few months back. Does anyone know what happened with that? I loved having it on in the background whilst I worked

A Discord server for MTV Scream!

I think the show may have unintentionally hinted at something much darker in season 4.

Everyone (including Betty) assumes that the “Tangerine” trigger word was designed to make her physically hurt someone she loves. The obvious conclusion is that it pays off when she hits Jughead with the rock during the Stonewall storyline.

But what if that wasn’t the real payoff?

In the episode “Tangerine,” Betty says the trigger word to herself in the mirror. A few episodes later, she suddenly kisses Archie and they share secret moments in the bunker together. What’s interesting is that Betty repeatedly doesn’t understand why she’s doing it. She almost seems disconnected from her own actions, and then she abruptly calls it off.

Eventually, Betty confesses everything to Jughead, destroying their relationship.

So what if the hypnosis wasn’t meant to make Betty physically hurt someone she loved? What if it was simply meant to make her hurt a loved one—emotionally?

If that’s true, then Jughead wasn’t just the victim of the rock incident. The real victim of the “Tangerine” conditioning was the betrayal itself. Betty unintentionally destroys the relationship with the person she loves most, and this would’ve been the perfect revenge from Evelyn as she already blames Betty for the reason she’s locked away.

It also makes the aftermath make more sense. Years later, Archie and Veronica eventually find their way back to each other, but Betty and Jughead never really do. Jughead still seems to carry feelings for Betty, but the two never connect on a romantic level again.

I’m not saying this was definitely the writers’ intention, but it feels like a much cleaner explanation than the hypnosis plot simply disappearing after the Stonewall arc. It also explains why Betty seemed so confused by her own behaviour with Archie.