Image 1 — I think I found an uncatalogued star that's been disappearing since 2018, a mature deep-dipper, Need help confirming (or killing) it.
Image 2 — I think I found an uncatalogued star that's been disappearing since 2018, a mature deep-dipper, Need help confirming (or killing) it.
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I think I found an uncatalogued star that's been disappearing since 2018, a mature deep-dipper, Need help confirming (or killing) it.

Through a search project that honestly had a bug in it (long story, happy to tell it in comments), I ended up pulling data on a star nobody had ever studied. Not a single paper. TYC 6884-164-1, a sun-like star about 470 light years away in Sagittarius.

It's disappearing.

Completely quiet from 2014 to mid-2018, then it started dropping huge chunks of its brightness for days at a time. Some years it's fading on 1 in every 3 nights. The average dip takes about half the star's light. The deepest one caught, 92% and that one isn't a lonely data point, three separate cameras caught the star crashed that same week, under dark sky. On the worst nights it drops below the survey's detection limit entirely.

I've spent two days trying to kill it. A comparison star sitting on the *same exposures* holds flat at ±0.02 mag while mine drops nearly 3 magnitudes. The dips ignore the moon (identical phase distribution to quiet nights).

No registry on Earth had this star listed as variable. I submitted it to VSX yesterday. It's still dipping this month.

If it's real, here's where it would sit. This class is called "mature dippers", sun-like stars that suddenly start deep irregular fading, probably from planetary collision debris and every one ever found fits on one hand:

TYC 6884-164-1 = 92% (>98% on the worst nights)

ASASSN-21qj = 84%

TYC 8830-410-1 = >50%

Boyajian's Star = 22%

That 92% isn't one stray point either, three separate cameras caught the star crashed that same week, under dark sky, while a comparison star on the same exposures didn't move.

Some things which may help:

- Anyone who can pull TESS, it's TIC 169213609. Space-based data settles this instantly.

- Anyone with access to ASAS-SN raw images, eyes on the actual frames from the deep nights.

- Southern hemisphere observers, one independent measurement this week would be gold.

- Or just tell me what I've missed. I want this killed properly or confirmed properly. Artifacts can happen for many different reasons.

Check it yourself, it's all public: asas-sn.osu.edu, Sky Patrol V2, cone search RA 292.06268, Dec -27.44410, radius 15 arcsec, source 489626624823. Years of data sitting right there.

If it's real, it's one of the deepest members of a star class you can count on one hand (the ASASSN-21qj / Tabby's Star family). If it's an artifact, I'll post that too. Everything so far has been done in public, corrections included.

u/MikeTheArtist- — 1 day ago

The word "Fair" is being misused when it comes to the CGT reform.

Nearly every other country on earth taxes asset-backed wealth generation more favourably than wages, and for good reason, the two carry completely different risk and productivity profiles. Wages are paid for work already done. Capital is money already taxed once, put at risk, with no guarantee it comes back, you could lose it all.

Is the government going to refund my entire investment when a business goes bankrupt? No. I wear the downside alone.

How would people feel if their income this year was reduced by 53% because the business did poorly? Don't like that? Well thats the risks associated with asset-backed growth.

We don't put one speed limit on every road. A school zone and a freeway carry different risks, so they get different rules, pretending otherwise in the name of safety and making every road 50km/h would just grind everything to a halt. Tax is the same trade-off, wages and capital carry different risk and productivity profiles, so taxing them identically does not make sense, its not about fairness.

Also.. Australia becoming effectively the highest capital gains taxed country on the planet.. doesn't fall under anyone's definition of fairness. Especially considering how our government is spending our tax, at least high tax countries like Denmark get free higher education and far better social / health programs. We get NDIS fraud, 300K machete bins, 100M failed website upgrades and obscenely unjustifiable wage increases for politicians.

The tax loopholes currently being used to circumnavigate income tax can be addressed directly, using a blunt reform like this is just a tax grab, a foolish one at that. Our government continuously chooses the worst option in the Stanford marshmallow experiment.

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u/MikeTheArtist- — 3 months ago

CGT implications on your gains, wage slaves for life, only retire when daddy government lets you (super).

Every time the new CGT rules come up, defenders point to indexation: "It protects you from inflation, that's fairer than the 50% discount."

In theory that sounds reasonable. In practice it only works for assets that barely grew.

Chart 1: Tax bill on capital gains, average wage earner ($100k), Assumes the asset doubled. So a $100k gain comes from a $100k investment that grew to $200k. RBA target inflation (2.5%), new rules from 1 July 2027.

For a typical 5-10 year hold, the new rules add roughly 45-55% more tax at every gain level. You have to hold for \~16.5 years before the new rules stop being a straight tax increase.

For context: the average Australian holds an investment property about 10 years. Retail share holdings turn over faster than that. For the vast majority of real-world holding periods, this is a tax hike.

Chart 2: Same $100k investment, but varying the growth multiple, This is where the indexation defence completely falls apart.

Indexation only shields the inflation portion of the cost base. Over 10 years at 2.5% inflation, that's about $28k off a $100k cost base. If your asset doubled, that's meaningful. If it tripled or more, it becomes a rounding error.

The numbers, top marginal bracket, 10-year hold:

(1) 1.5x growth (slow asset):

indexation shields 56% of the gain, new rules slightly better

(2) 2x growth (asset doubled):

shields 28%, new rules 44% worse

(3) 3x growth (typical strong ETF decade):

shields 14%, new rules 72% worse

(4) 5x growth (good individual stock or property):

shields 7%, 86% worse

(5) 10x growth:

shields 3%, 94% worse

(6) 20x growth:

shields 1.5%, 97% worse

Even at a 20-year hold, high-growth assets still get hammered. A 5x asset is taxed 68% harder. A 10x asset, 86% harder.

The reform doesn't protect long-term investors. It protects mediocre ones. Is this what they mean when they say "no one gets left behind"? Everyone else gets held back?

Some people are trying to justify the CGT increase by listing the public services we already pay for. Medicare. PBS. Hospitals. Schools. Pensions. Defence.

As if pointing at things the government spends money on settles the argument. It doesn't. We already pay for all of that.

Australians fund those services through income tax, GST, company tax, fuel excise, the Medicare levy, payroll tax, stamp duty, land tax, and the existing CGT regime. Total tax revenue at all levels of government is around 28% of GDP.

The system isn't underfunded by historical standards, and it isn't underfunded by international standards either.

So we shouldn't be telling people "do you want hospitals?"

Instead we need to ask: what specific new spending requires moving Australia from rank 28 to rank 42 on CGT, and why is CGT the right lever to pull?

More 300k Machete bins? Perhaps another 100m website upgrade?

The UK has the NHS, universal, free at point of use, more comprehensive than Medicare. Top effective CGT rate: 24%.

Germany has universal healthcare, strong public schools, generous pensions, and unemployment benefits more generous than ours. Top effective CGT rate: 26.4%.

France has all of the above plus subsidised childcare and one of the world's most generous welfare states. Top effective CGT rate: 34%.

Japan funds universal healthcare and one of the world's largest pension systems. Top effective CGT rate: 20.3%.

Every one of those countries funds the services Australians are being told justify this reform, and every one of them does it with a lower effective CGT rate than what Australia is proposing.

"We have Medicare" is not an argument for this reform. It's an argument for the tax system we already have.

u/MikeTheArtist- — 3 months ago

Don't like the CGT changes? You have a narrow window to do something about it.

The 2026-27 Budget's CGT reform isn't law yet. It's a Budget announcement. Exposure draft legislation still has to be released, debated, amended, and passed through both houses. That process takes months, sometimes longer, and the Senate crossbench is where these things actually get shaped.

If you think replacing the 50% discount with indexation + a 30% floor is bad policy, or if you'd support a smarter version that targets the actual abuses (carried interest, family trust streaming, founder shares as deferred salary) without hammering middle-income savers (and even high income savers) who are locked out of property, email your federal MP and the senators for your state. Before it passes. Not after.

Parliamentarians, they are high-income earners, but they are not rich. A backbencher makes around $235K base. A senator the same. Ministers and the PM more, but still salaries, not generational wealth. Most of them are paying off mortgages, raising kids, salary-sacrificing into super, and thinking about their own post-political financial security, which, for many, depends on exactly the kind of after-tax investment returns this reform changes.

That matters because it means they are persuadable in a way that genuinely wealthy people aren't. The people who get hit hardest by a poorly designed CGT change are PAYG professionals trying to build wealth outside super and outside property, which describes a lot of MPs personally, and most of their staff, and a lot of their donors.

A well-written email from a constituent who clearly understands the policy lands very differently from a form letter. Be specific. Mention you're a constituent. Mention what you actually do for work and why this affects you. Suggest the alternative (target the real abuses, leave the discount for ordinary shares and ETFs bought with after-tax savings), remove the 30% floor, or make it a flat rate instead of a scaling one with income. Ask for their position and whether they'll be pushing for amendments.

Try not to email the whole list at once as you may get filtered as spam:

NSW Senators:

senator.ayres@aph.gov.au; senator.bell@aph.gov.au; senator.bragg@aph.gov.au; senator.cadell@aph.gov.au; senator.collins@aph.gov.au; senator.faruqi@aph.gov.au; senator.kovacic@aph.gov.au; senator.mcallister@aph.gov.au; senator.oneill@aph.gov.au; senator.sharma@aph.gov.au; senator.sheldon@aph.gov.au; senator.shoebridge@aph.gov.au

NSW MPs:

Anthony.Albanese.MP@aph.gov.au; Ash.Ambihaipahar.MP@aph.gov.au; Carol.Berry.MP@aph.gov.au; Nicolette.Boele.MP@aph.gov.au; Chris.Bowen.MP@aph.gov.au; Tony.Burke.MP@aph.gov.au; Alison.Byrnes.MP@aph.gov.au; Jamie.Chaffey.MP@aph.gov.au; Andrew.Charlton.MP@aph.gov.au; Jason.Clare.MP@aph.gov.au; Sharon.Claydon.MP@aph.gov.au; Pat.Conaghan.MP@aph.gov.au; Pat.Conroy.MP@aph.gov.au; Justine.Elliot.MP@aph.gov.au; Mike.Freelander.MP@aph.gov.au; Andrew.Gee.MP@aph.gov.au; Alex.Hawke.MP@aph.gov.au; Kevin.Hogan.MP@aph.gov.au; Ed.Husic.MP@aph.gov.au; Barnaby.Joyce.MP@aph.gov.au; Simon.Kennedy.MP@aph.gov.au; Jerome.Laxale.MP@aph.gov.au; Dai.Le.MP@aph.gov.au; Julian.Leeser.MP@aph.gov.au; Sussan.Ley.MP@aph.gov.au; Kristy.McBain.MP@aph.gov.au; Emma.McBride.MP@aph.gov.au; Michael.McCormack.MP@aph.gov.au; Melissa.McIntosh.MP@aph.gov.au; David.Moncrieff.MP@aph.gov.au; Alison.Penfold.MP@aph.gov.au; Fiona.Phillips.MP@aph.gov.au; Tanya.Plibersek.MP@aph.gov.au; Gordon.Reid.MP@aph.gov.au; Dan.Repacholi.MP@aph.gov.au; Michelle.Rowland.MP@aph.gov.au; Sophie.Scamps.MP@aph.gov.au; Sally.Sitou.MP@aph.gov.au; Zhi.Soon.MP@aph.gov.au; Allegra.Spender.MP@aph.gov.au; Anne.Stanley.MP@aph.gov.au; Zali.Steggall.MP@aph.gov.au; Meryl.Swanson.MP@aph.gov.au; Angus.Taylor.MP@aph.gov.au; Susan.Templeman.MP@aph.gov.au; Matt.Thistlethwaite.MP@aph.gov.au

VIC Senators:

senator.ananda-rajah@aph.gov.au; senator.babet@aph.gov.au; senator.ciccone@aph.gov.au; senator.darmanin@aph.gov.au; senator.henderson@aph.gov.au; senator.hodgins-may@aph.gov.au; senator.hume@aph.gov.au; senator.mckenzie@aph.gov.au; senator.paterson@aph.gov.au; senator.stewart@aph.gov.au; senator.thorpe@aph.gov.au; senator.walsh@aph.gov.au

VIC MPs:

Basem.Abdo.MP@aph.gov.au; Mary.Aldred.MP@aph.gov.au; Jodie.Belyea.MP@aph.gov.au; Sam.Birrell.MP@aph.gov.au; Jo.Briskey.MP@aph.gov.au; Josh.Burns.MP@aph.gov.au; Darren.Chester.MP@aph.gov.au; Lisa.Chesters.MP@aph.gov.au; Libby.Coker.MP@aph.gov.au; Mary.Doyle.MP@aph.gov.au; Mark.Dreyfus.MP@aph.gov.au; Cassandra.Fernando.MP@aph.gov.au; Carina.Garland.MP@aph.gov.au; Andrew.Giles.MP@aph.gov.au; Matt.Gregg.MP@aph.gov.au; Helen.Haines.MP@aph.gov.au; Julian.Hill.MP@aph.gov.au; Alice.Jordan-Baird.MP@aph.gov.au; Ged.Kearney.MP@aph.gov.au; Peter.Khalil.MP@aph.gov.au; Catherine.King.MP@aph.gov.au; Richard.Marles.MP@aph.gov.au; Zoe.McKenzie.MP@aph.gov.au; Rob.Mitchell.MP@aph.gov.au; Daniel.Mulino.MP@aph.gov.au; Gabriel.Ng.MP@aph.gov.au; Clare.ONeil.MP@aph.gov.au; Sam.Rae.MP@aph.gov.au; Joanne.Ryan.MP@aph.gov.au; Monique.Ryan.MP@aph.gov.au; Dan.Tehan.MP@aph.gov.au; Kate.Thwaites.MP@aph.gov.au; Aaron.Violi.MP@aph.gov.au; Tim.Watts.MP@aph.gov.au; Anne.Webster.MP@aph.gov.au; Tim.Wilson.MP@aph.gov.au; Sarah.Witty.MP@aph.gov.au; Jason.Wood.MP@aph.gov.au

QLD Senators:

senator.allman-payne@aph.gov.au; senator.canavan@aph.gov.au; senator.chisholm@aph.gov.au; senator.green@aph.gov.au; senator.hanson@aph.gov.au; senator.mcdonald@aph.gov.au; senator.mcgrath@aph.gov.au; senator.mulholland@aph.gov.au; senator.roberts@aph.gov.au; senator.scarr@aph.gov.au; senator.waters@aph.gov.au; senator.watt@aph.gov.au

QLD MPs:

David.Batt.MP@aph.gov.au; Angie.Bell.MP@aph.gov.au; Colin.Boyce.MP@aph.gov.au; Scott.Buchholz.MP@aph.gov.au; Cameron.Caldwell.MP@aph.gov.au; Julie-Ann.Campbell.MP@aph.gov.au; Jim.Chalmers.MP@aph.gov.au; Renee.Coffey.MP@aph.gov.au; Emma.Comer.MP@aph.gov.au; Kara.Cook.MP@aph.gov.au; Milton.Dick.MP@aph.gov.au; Ali.France.MP@aph.gov.au; Garth.Hamilton.MP@aph.gov.au; Rowan.Holzberger.MP@aph.gov.au; Madonna.Jarrett.MP@aph.gov.au; Bob.Katter.MP@aph.gov.au; Michelle.Landry.MP@aph.gov.au; David.Littleproud.MP@aph.gov.au; Shayne.Neumann.MP@aph.gov.au; Llew.OBrien.MP@aph.gov.au; Ted.OBrien.MP@aph.gov.au; Henry.Pike.MP@aph.gov.au; Leon.Rebello.MP@aph.gov.au; Matt.Smith.MP@aph.gov.au; Phillip.Thompson.MP@aph.gov.au; Andrew.Wallace.MP@aph.gov.au; Elizabeth.Watson-Brown.MP@aph.gov.au; Anika.Wells.MP@aph.gov.au; Andrew.Willcox.MP@aph.gov.au; Terry.Young.MP@aph.gov.au

WA Senators:

senator.brockman@aph.gov.au; senator.michaelia.cash@aph.gov.au; senator.cox@aph.gov.au; senator.ghosh@aph.gov.au; senator.lines@aph.gov.au; senator.matt.o'sullivan@aph.gov.au; senator.payman@aph.gov.au; senator.smith@aph.gov.au; senator.steele-john@aph.gov.au; senator.sterle@aph.gov.au; senator.whiteaker@aph.gov.au; senator.whitten@aph.gov.au

WA MPs:

Anne.Aly.MP@aph.gov.au; Kate.Chaney.MP@aph.gov.au; Trish.Cook.MP@aph.gov.au; Tom.French.MP@aph.gov.au; Patrick.Gorman.MP@aph.gov.au; Andrew.Hastie.MP@aph.gov.au; Matt.Keogh.MP@aph.gov.au; Madeleine.King.MP@aph.gov.au; Tania.Lawrence.MP@aph.gov.au; Sam.Lim.MP@aph.gov.au; Zaneta.Mascarenhas.MP@aph.gov.au; Melissa.Price.MP@aph.gov.au; Tracey.Roberts.MP@aph.gov.au; Ben.Small.MP@aph.gov.au; Josh.Wilson.MP@aph.gov.au; Rick.Wilson.MP@aph.gov.au

SA Senators:

senator.antic@aph.gov.au; senator.blyth@aph.gov.au; senator.farrell@aph.gov.au; senator.grogan@aph.gov.au; senator.hanson-young@aph.gov.au; senator.liddle@aph.gov.au; senator.marielle.smith@aph.gov.au; senator.mclachlan@aph.gov.au; senator.barbara.pocock@aph.gov.au; senator.ruston@aph.gov.au; senator.walker@aph.gov.au; senator.wong@aph.gov.au

SA MPs:

Matt.Burnell.MP@aph.gov.au; Mark.Butler.MP@aph.gov.au; Claire.Clutterham.MP@aph.gov.au; Steve.Georganas.MP@aph.gov.au; Louise.Miller-Frost.MP@aph.gov.au; Tony.Pasin.MP@aph.gov.au; Amanda.Rishworth.MP@aph.gov.au; Rebekha.Sharkie.MP@aph.gov.au; Tom.Venning.MP@aph.gov.au; Tony.Zappia.MP@aph.gov.au

TAS Senators:

senator.askew@aph.gov.au; senator.carol.brown@aph.gov.au; senator.chandler@aph.gov.au; senator.colbeck@aph.gov.au; senator.dolega@aph.gov.au; senator.dowling@aph.gov.au; senator.duniam@aph.gov.au; senator.lambie@aph.gov.au; senator.mckim@aph.gov.au; senator.polley@aph.gov.au; senator.tyrrell@aph.gov.au; senator.whish-wilson@aph.gov.au

TAS MPs:

Julie.Collins.MP@aph.gov.au; Jess.Teesdale.MP@aph.gov.au; Anne.Urquhart.MP@aph.gov.au; Rebecca.White.MP@aph.gov.au; Andrew.Wilkie.MP@aph.gov.au

ACT Senators:

senator.katy.gallagher@aph.gov.au; senator.david.pocock@aph.gov.au

ACT MPs:

Andrew.Leigh.MP@aph.gov.au; Alicia.Payne.MP@aph.gov.au; David.Smith.MP@aph.gov.au

NT Senators:

senator.mccarthy@aph.gov.au; senator.nampijinpaprice@aph.gov.au

NT MPs:

Luke.Gosling.MP@aph.gov.au; Marion.Scrymgour.MP@aph.gov.au

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u/MikeTheArtist- — 3 months ago

The CGT reform's indexation defence falls apart for any asset that actually grows. Two charts.

Every time the new CGT rules come up, defenders point to indexation: "It protects you from inflation, that's fairer than the 50% discount."

In theory that sounds reasonable. In practice it only works for assets that barely grew.

Chart 1: Tax bill on capital gains, average wage earner ($100k), Assumes the asset doubled. So a $100k gain comes from a $100k investment that grew to $200k. RBA target inflation (2.5%), new rules from 1 July 2027.

For a typical 5-10 year hold, the new rules add roughly 45-55% more tax at every gain level. You have to hold for ~16.5 years before the new rules stop being a straight tax increase.

For context: the average Australian holds an investment property about 10 years. Retail share holdings turn over faster than that. For the vast majority of real-world holding periods, this is a tax hike.

Chart 2: Same $100k investment, but varying the growth multiple, This is where the indexation defence completely falls apart.

Indexation only shields the inflation portion of the cost base. Over 10 years at 2.5% inflation, that's about $28k off a $100k cost base. If your asset doubled, that's meaningful. If it tripled or more, it becomes a rounding error.

The numbers, top marginal bracket, 10-year hold:

(1) 1.5x growth (slow asset): indexation shields 56% of the gain, new rules slightly better

(2) 2x growth (asset doubled): shields 28%, new rules 44% worse

(3) 3x growth (typical strong ETF decade): shields 14%, new rules 72% worse

(4) 5x growth (good individual stock or property): shields 7%, 86% worse

(5) 10x growth: shields 3%, 94% worse

(6) 20x growth: shields 1.5%, 97% worse

Even at a 20-year hold, high-growth assets still get hammered. A 5x asset is taxed 68% harder. A 10x asset, 86% harder.

The reform doesn't protect long-term investors. It protects mediocre ones. Is this what they mean when they say "no one gets left behind"? Everyone else gets held back?

u/MikeTheArtist- — 3 months ago

The CGT reform's indexation defence falls apart for any asset that actually grew. Two charts

Every time the new CGT rules come up, defenders point to indexation: "It protects you from inflation, that's fairer than the 50% discount."

In theory that sounds reasonable. In practice it only works for assets that barely grew.

Chart 1: Tax bill on capital gains, average wage earner ($100k), Assumes the asset doubled. So a $100k gain comes from a $100k investment that grew to $200k. RBA target inflation (2.5%), new rules from 1 July 2027.

For a typical 5-10 year hold, the new rules add roughly 45-55% more tax at every gain level. You have to hold for ~16.5 years before the new rules stop being a straight tax increase.

For context: the average Australian holds an investment property about 10 years. Retail share holdings turn over faster than that. For the vast majority of real-world holding periods, this is a tax hike.

Chart 2: Same $100k investment, but varying the growth multiple, This is where the indexation defence completely falls apart.

Indexation only shields the inflation portion of the cost base. Over 10 years at 2.5% inflation, that's about $28k off a $100k cost base. If your asset doubled, that's meaningful. If it tripled or more, it becomes a rounding error.

The numbers, top marginal bracket, 10-year hold:

(1) 1.5x growth (slow asset): indexation shields 56% of the gain, new rules slightly better

(2) 2x growth (asset doubled): shields 28%, new rules 44% worse

(3) 3x growth (typical strong ETF decade): shields 14%, new rules 72% worse

(4) 5x growth (good individual stock or property): shields 7%, 86% worse

(5) 10x growth: shields 3%, 94% worse

(6) 20x growth: shields 1.5%, 97% worse

Even at a 20-year hold, high-growth assets still get hammered. A 5x asset is taxed 68% harder. A 10x asset, 86% harder.

The reform doesn't protect long-term investors. It protects mediocre ones. Is this what they mean when they say "no one gets left behind"? Everyone else gets held back?

If you have any dreams of retiring early or being wealthy, kiss them goodbye, enjoy being a wage slave for life.

u/MikeTheArtist- — 3 months ago

The CGT reform moves Australia from rank 28 to rank 42 out of 43 developed economies. It misses the CEOs and hits everyone else.

The 2026-27 Budget's CGT reform is being sold as closing a generous loophole. The numbers say the opposite.

Top effective CGT rates across 43 developed economies:

0% (often conditional): Singapore, Hong Kong, UAE, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Georgia, Greece, Luxembourg, Malta, Slovakia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Turkey, NZ

Romania 1%, Moldova 6%, Belgium 10%, Bulgaria 10%, Croatia 12%, Hungary 15%, Poland 19%, Ukraine 19.5%, Portugal 19.6%, Lithuania 20%, Japan 20.3%, Estonia 22%, Iceland 22%

Australia (current, 50% discount) 23.5%, rank 28 of 43

UK 24%, Italy 26%, Germany 26.4%, Austria 27.5%, Latvia 28.5%, US (fed + avg state + NIIT) 28.7%, Spain 30%, Sweden 30%, Ireland 33%, Finland 34%, France 34%, Netherlands 36%, Norway 37.8%, Denmark 42%

Before the reform: Australia is rank 28 of 43. Middle of the pack. Below the UK, Germany, the US, and most of Europe.

Under the new rules, indexation with a 30% floor, no discount, a top-bracket investor pays 47% on a real gain.

After the reform: Australia is rank 42 of 43. Second only to Denmark. Harsher than the US, UK, Germany, Japan, and almost all of Europe.

That's a 14-place jump...

You can argue about these numbers in plenty of ways, OECD vs developed nations, indexed vs nominal gains, top marginal vs effective rates, whether to include state level taxes, how to treat the zero rate jurisdictions. Run any reasonable methodology you like. The picture stays the same, Australia moves from the middle of the developed-world distribution to the harsh end. The reform pairs indexation with a 30% floor and no discount, a combination no comparable economy uses at this rate.

However, people abusing the discount to reduce income tax is a real problem, This policy can be made more intelligent. Just one example:

The abuse the bill supposedly targets, CEOs and fund managers converting their salaries into discounted capital gains through vested shares, can be tackled directly.

Treat any shares received as employment compensation as ordinary income, taxed at the marginal rate. Leave the 50% discount in place for ordinary shares, ETFs, and managed funds bought with after-tax savings. That targets the CEOs without punishing the middle income savers who are already locked out of the property market.

If this matters to you, email your senators. They're the ones who actually decide whether this passes.

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u/MikeTheArtist- — 3 months ago