Xipe's 3rd face: Trailblaze. The method of Stellaron delivery.

Xipe's 3rd face: Trailblaze. The method of Stellaron delivery.

I've watched the new trailer regarding Asat a few times and a revelation came to me.

So, ever since I've accused Xipe of spreading the Stellarons and had gotten it right, see here: The Truth of Stellarons and Celenova the Ashes of Order. I've been asking myself a very simple question.

Why did Xipe only begin the spreading of Stellarons at 2147 AE? After all, Xipe had existed since around 1500 AE. Which is around the time when the Swarm Disaster ended. So what changed? Why couldn't they deliver Stellarons prior to 2147 AE?

Well, after something like the 10th viewing of the new trailer, it finally hit me. There were 3 documented events that happened very closely to each other. The fall of Akivili, the rise of Nanook and the spread of Stellarons secretly by Xipe. After thinking about it, I've came to the conclusion that it is not at all unreasonable to link these three events together.

Ergo, even without knowing the exact details of what happened, the change in Xipe's behavior would've probably originated from one of the other two events. So which one triggered Xipe's actions? Well, I would actually eliminate Nanook from this equation and focus solely on Akivili. Why? Because I've noticed that Harmony and Trailblaze actually have a glaringly problematic point that overlaps with Xipe.

The Fatal Overlap.

So, what is the overlapping issue that is between Akivili and Xipe? Well, the following is from the first stanza for the Odes of Harmony.

https://preview.redd.it/t4up2nd040ah1.png?width=594&format=png&auto=webp&s=499595f05da8739492fd3913b8281cdc8eaef600

The world is in harmony and the stars shine bright.
Praise the Lord! All are connected and the winds of blessing breathe across the lands!

And what is it that we do when we arrive in every new world?

https://preview.redd.it/u2wjed5l60ah1.png?width=834&format=png&auto=webp&s=1db759a21b6f0f072d836bc1a433a5fe842f8af5

Explore, understand, establish, and connect.

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The Path of Trailblaze could arguably be reduced down to a narrower idea of Harmony as a lot of what Trailblaze does is to make connections and therefore, universal unity. All core principles of Harmony and it was one bad accident away for Xipe to over take the Akivili.

https://preview.redd.it/95pw6h2qa0ah1.png?width=750&format=png&auto=webp&s=582c71e770159d0f9960c78a556d01593ab40d74

But hold on, before any of you say something to this effect: "Just because a concept in these two Paths overlaps, it doesn't mean Xipe could've ate Akivili. There are plenty of other Aeons with similar concepts that doesn't eat each other. Like Preservation and Remembrance or Abundance and Propagation."

https://preview.redd.it/vple10isd0ah1.png?width=854&format=png&auto=webp&s=db6785d5477994aaa649fd679d93d9fadc0cbe4c

And I would begin by pointing out that Abundance and Propagation did not existed at the same time in history. Then there is Preservation and Remembrance which I would argue that they actually cannot collide because of what their Paths are. Preservation's Primum Mobile is most likely purely about the Preservation of things, so it would be antithetical for Qilipoth to end the existence of another Aeon or Path. Then there is Fuli who I suspect cannot change anything of the present because THEY can only ascend at the end of the Universe. And so, looking at the remaining Aeons and looking at Xipe THEMSELF, I would say that this method of killing an Aeon is actually only applicable purely to Xipe and the Path of Harmony because the whole concept for Harmony is assimilation. This idea of assimilation had been brought up time and time again with some of the most recent one with A Letter from an Apostate.

https://preview.redd.it/do7cbgdrg0ah1.png?width=871&format=png&auto=webp&s=c3daedae1027dd3c81f9210f85790f896e956bfc

Now, again I would emphasize that normally, Paths that shares one or two overlapping concepts would probably not devour each other. But this is Xipe that we're talking about, and Aeon who already have tasted fellow Aeon flesh (This is a metaphoric joke, don't go yelling about how Xipe may or may not have actually ate Ena.) and I wouldn't put it past THEM to do it again.

With that out of the way, we continue with why would consuming Akivili allow Xipe to begin chucking out Stellarons? Well, consider this: What if Xipe had Stellarons ready to go but no way of transporting them? Yes, I'm suggesting that by consuming Akivili, Xipe gained access to the mass delivery of Stellarons via the Silver Rails that the Express had laid.

The Great hijacking of Trailblaze.

The Silver Rails, the greatest legacy of Akivili which connected the universe together. Nowadays, anyone can use it to travel to anywhere where the tracks have connected. But here's the thing, although anyone can use it, they still have to travel by using their own spacecraft. What am I trying to say with this? Well, if someone from The Family were to have transported Stellarons by carrying them as luggage, then Stellaron disasters always happens whenever there are Family members nearby, wouldn't suspicion naturally fall to the Harmony for the cause of Stellaron disasters?

So how to avoid that issue? Well, by taking hold of the power of Trailblaze so THEY can send out Stellarons in a much more stealthy and quick way. Something like imbuing the Stellarons with some Trailblazing energy so they can fly out on their own.

But that is not to say that ALL Stellarons are sent out via this method. The Family sometime still use the carrier method as they once made Gopher Wood deliver one as punishment.

https://preview.redd.it/t9tmc8q4c0ah1.png?width=1535&format=png&auto=webp&s=d2a737e5fc53ca9cc99fa5bcba79769ac328cafe

Ending Notes:

  1. Didn't know where to put this but the description of Trailblaze encompasses really suspicious wording like the "Countless shooting stars" and "It will carry your wish to thousands of distant worlds." Both phrases can be substituted as Stellarons and how Xipe is now chucking them.

https://preview.redd.it/x64l1g3ak0ah1.png?width=846&format=png&auto=webp&s=320022fe35cd0404777ac5a3c596a883852cef7f

Then there is the number 3 imagery that is here. It brings Xipe to mind but this could just be nothing but a coincidence.

  1. The reason why I don't like that Beauty is one of Xipe's faces is because although Melustanin is one of the first Stellaron sites and the place where Idrila ascended,

https://preview.redd.it/kc2epfy6l0ah1.png?width=850&format=png&auto=webp&s=08bd474ae4794fbea5875f4ad96db2aab9f55bb0

This doesn't seem so significant to me at all. Pom-Pom's wording already begin undermining the idea by saying it's "one of the initial sites" as in not the sole origin point of the Stellaron disasters. Then there is the fact that it is said that Idrila felled at Lafcadio, which I don't see any reason why Melustanin's Stellaron disaster would affect Idrila at Lafcadio. That's like saying someone was born in Britian but a great fire broke out there and that someone then died in America because of the fire at their homeland. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

Then there is the improbable nature of TWO Aeons falling in the same AE and one was born.

  1. I've also been thinking of a visual metaphor for the Stellarons stopping interstellar travels near it and I've come up with this:

https://preview.redd.it/n41yqiltn0ah1.png?width=577&format=png&auto=webp&s=6d6a8780ba8733de08dc69caaeeda41729fa3f1a

A Stellaron is considered as a stranded train or vehicle blocking traffic. So one would actually need to remove it or try and travel off or in a different tracks to avoid it.

  1. Expanding on my reversi analogy from the last theory.

https://preview.redd.it/7gok3tnhp0ah1.png?width=1033&format=png&auto=webp&s=c87f4f15e9d011623ec5dddbbb4a516bcfc1f3e4

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u/MiyukiAkibara — 8 days ago

Aha "died" after taking Voracity's Primum Mobile and became Enroute, Isee and Asat Pramad

Thoughts on 4.3:

Finished the 4.3 story, surprisingly short and it was packed with information. The ending feels off and a bit rushed though. But before I start, I have to say that my theories for last patch is still holding up pretty well. For those who thought that the Hoyo cycle of fate would make someone named Ryusuke into a good person, well, my condolences. Turns out, everything that comes out of that man's mouth is a lie. As I've said here: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarRailLore/comments/1sw8eqh/who_actually_brought_shuhus_flesh_in_ryusuke_the/

The only solace to be found here is that the real Ryusuke who Asat killed a long time ago was a decent man trying to actually find a cure for his wife and daughter. So I guess he was a good person, he was just not one when his name was being used on screen by a character.

The other thing: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarRailLore/comments/1sx6gqm/ahas_plan_the_aeon_of_desire_kuchiba_the_avatar/

I've speculated that Aha's goal was to change Oroboro's Path and this patch tickled that idea with the confirmation of the third method on how an Aeon can "die."

https://preview.redd.it/xgpzxk3ucu4h1.png?width=1856&format=png&auto=webp&s=4e2b2f113d15dc8e5420ff0a0da755963b11cd74

So, Aha force feeding Oroboros the "desires" of beings to change THEIR path is still on the table.

Strange tales under different names.

To begin this theory, I'm going to straight up just say that this theory is about Asat Pramad being Aha. But wait, don't go ranting about how "meticulous" Asat is and he couldn't be Aha because Aha is too "chaotic." Because I've seen all those comments before on all the "Asat is Aha" theories before. But what those people didn't know is that with 4.3's story, more information came up, serious information that needs serious consideration. Specifically, it all begins with that little something that Aha took from Oroboros.

https://preview.redd.it/6ok7e0fqeu4h1.png?width=950&format=png&auto=webp&s=d0667246a7b572333c1f305a0bc79be69eeb3c66

THEIR Primum Mobile.

And here's where things becomes interesting because from this point on, the stories of Aha merges with what we know of Enroute, Isee and Asat Pramad.

The Primum Mobile and the Shadow Heist:

Firstly, this patch tells us actually two very very similar story that needs intense scrutiny.

Aha's stealing of Oroboros' Primum Mobile
Enroute's seizure of a "shadow of the Voracity."

https://preview.redd.it/1azw9kx9hu4h1.png?width=1011&format=png&auto=webp&s=eebcbf233590cfeb1ff378859b3d5c8583ec1bdc

https://preview.redd.it/y9hp1q37hu4h1.png?width=915&format=png&auto=webp&s=4bb90f2da8926c1b26f9c36ea117e9d8a55d2529

Both of them just so happened to have "taken" something from Oroboros and while Aha's deeds were unrecorded, Ruan Mei seems to have evidence that THEY did the deed.

A journey with Akivili:

Now here's the really odd part.

Aha was confirmed to have had journey with Akivili and Pom Pom is a witness to this.
Enroute after he became disillusioned about Elation then became Isee and had also travelled with Akivili.

Alright, so what are the odds that events have lined up twice like so? Well, get ready because things comes in threes.

The baby:

When Aha ascended THEY saw a baby who was crying and burst into laughter.
Asat Pramad found a baby that was half dead and raised her up to be a tool of Destruction.

https://preview.redd.it/gyourcm0ou4h1.png?width=1485&format=png&auto=webp&s=f38e87dc93bd740c54a950f27aa349b0a3c63344

All while him admitting that he was thinking about that ascension legend for Aha.

https://preview.redd.it/0ebo74u4ou4h1.png?width=1563&format=png&auto=webp&s=0bcdf17e7e9a15e5acedbf4145160f87d2dbbfdc

Okay, I said things comes in threes but it turns out that I have one more left in the tank, so here comes the 4th one.

The one who arrives uninvited:

Enroute, the man who is most famously known for always going to places where he is uninvited.

So, you know when Asat's Fool's mask appeared in 4.3? You all remember when that happened, right? It was at the Tavern.

https://preview.redd.it/kc0fqba6ru4h1.png?width=1009&format=png&auto=webp&s=789e771caed82875e4d89a900aeb35574625f411

Which is pretty much opened to all. Except a few people or Aeon. Remember from 4.0? No Aha or Mourning Actors.

https://preview.redd.it/xnhfeewpru4h1.png?width=1569&format=png&auto=webp&s=83b2858e1dfb2556b560cd2436e31c82a1623c7e

Then there was the thing with Yaoshi's Garden.

https://preview.redd.it/n9emxdn6su4h1.png?width=1429&format=png&auto=webp&s=03476d2a612b07b9507757509e9c1e951e612421

A certain SOMEONE went into THEIR garden uninvited.

Possible answers:

So, three different identities by the same person in circumstances that are very very similar to what the stories of Aha had told us about THEM.

So what is going on here?

1. Well, perhaps History Fictionologists was having fun with some of the records. But that wouldn't exactly explain some of the timeline. Specifically the part where it is said that Aha only travelled with Akivili for a single year before THEY blew up the train. If this event WAS actually Isee blowing up the train, a year seems to have been too short given how much time seems to have been recorded down on the Navigator's Deep Space Mirror relic set piece. Then there is Pom Pom who could serve as a witness to what happened and they seems pretty adamant that the train did blow up and it is not some fancy metaphor.

2. Asat Pramad is the baby that Aha saw. That is why he seems so lost and confused with life's questions in the Navigator's Astral Chart Uniform relic piece. Perhaps because he fell down from where he was is why he feels like he should get those answers. But where could he have been before he fell? Well, maybe where that baby actually at was the top of the Tree of Existence until Aha climbed it and the baby fell, causing it to lose access to the truths of the world. And interestingly, 4.0 had Sparkle describe the baby crying as: "Cry as if wronged beyond measure." Which makes me think that perhaps the baby was sentient enough to feel a sense of entitlement that it shouldn't have fell.

https://preview.redd.it/4no5u8ibvu4h1.png?width=1529&format=png&auto=webp&s=f405b1e278973185e2bfbc6ef2e847d9e26bdb92

But who really knows, unless Aha actually told someone of these events or the baby itself grew up to tell it, no one should know all the details of the events that clearly. So this legend might have been dipped with a bit of poetic flair.

3. Aha lost his Aeonhood and descended back down as a "mortal." I put mortals in quotations because Asat here is clearly not your regular human, he has lived for tens of thousands of years since Enroute was a thing all the way back at the Second Prosperity. Now, the timeline for this idea may or may not work since the incident when Aha apparently stole Oroboros' Primum Mobile was around the time when Akivili began THEIR journey.

https://preview.redd.it/tjczw3fi9v4h1.png?width=1456&format=png&auto=webp&s=434a3e7b3254edc5d7a21aa5c91f9cc0030f70c5

Which was apparently around 1168 AE.

https://preview.redd.it/tv214qjaav4h1.png?width=590&format=png&auto=webp&s=42e2442107b9c00ac3004ef39b0be9e84247a163

The issue here is that Aha was active in the Swarm Disaster at 13XX AE. So THEY actually had not fall right after stealing Oroboros' authority.

https://preview.redd.it/oke2jrct9v4h1.png?width=783&format=png&auto=webp&s=0e196edb68caa7a09cdfd3f11d316e80d6f4055f

But by that token, Oroboros also didn't actually disappear until sometimes around 13XX AE. So if the stealing of their Primum Mobile DID cause THEIR fall, it sure took a while.

HOWEVER, we have an example of what happens with an Aeon when THEY do gain authority from another. When Xipe assimilated with Ena, that was around the same times too at 13XX AE. And THEIR goals for the cosmos didn't actually start until 2147 AE with the first Stellaron sightings. I use Xipe and Ena as a case study example because I fundamentally believe that the Stellarons are pieces of Ena's body that Xipe is tossing out to the universe for THEIR goal of Tuning all of existence and bringing everything under the banner Harmony. Read more on this idea here: https://www.reddit.com/r/StarRailLore/comments/1nwx3sj/the_truth_of_stellarons_and_celenova_the_ashes_of/

But anyways, what I'm trying to prove is that perhaps it takes a long time for Aeons to full lose THEMSELVES into the cold embrace of slow death or change in general.

Next, the slow death process is also evidential within the new DU lore.

https://preview.redd.it/gpng3vhccv4h1.png?width=870&format=png&auto=webp&s=abd1a2d2d9813d53e686890ef447014656ce8702

The Lunar Knight who is most likely Aha ends up being seized by "madness" after THEIR fight with the giant serpent. THEY were wounded when THEY were "bitten" by the snake. But course, this is a story told in metaphoric language, so the reality of which is perhaps not so black and white. The "bite" was most likely the transfer of Oroboros' Primum Mobile to Aha.

With the phrase: "Descent into frenzy fueled by the very moonlight."

Now, we know from Asat Pramad this patch that the imagenae are all created by the Voracity's lifeblood or wishpower. And so, what is the moon of Planarcadia? Most likely a massive imagenae or wishpower. So, since the story says that the Lunar's Knight's madness is also fueled and driven by moonlight, it means that the Primum Mobile that Aha now got from Oroboros was intermingling and also corrupting the Path of Elation.

Now, regarding this madness that the Lunar Knight fell into.

If a hyperactive, imaginative and happy person suddenly became a sedimental realist with a grim outlook on life, would that not be a type of madness? What I'm trying to say is that madness under this situation could just mean that a radical change has happened with a person.

The identity known as Enroute, Isee and Asat Pramad were also radically different between each other.

In the Stories of Enroute, the recounting of Enroute have them depicting him as a rather jolly man. But there were hints that Enroute was beginning to be a little odd to his fellow fools: "Old Lamp's Version

Personally, I think Enroute took his aesthetics of Elation a bit too seriously."

And despite what the legends about Enroute said about his lost of joy.

https://preview.redd.it/x1aoatcjhv4h1.png?width=1054&format=png&auto=webp&s=1dbc4fcdbbfba5766517b1f6ca0c958647b7d091

As Isee, the Navigator's Everstride Boots

https://preview.redd.it/ihpy2q1rhv4h1.png?width=875&format=png&auto=webp&s=7818358e8cdcb90f4607d31913364f33749dd0d7

He seems to be actually having fun. But you can actually see his madness gets worst and worst in the order of Navigator's Astral Chart Uniform, Navigator's Deep Space Mirror to the point in Navigator's Game Die where he sends his fellow crew members into death traps seemingly for fun after Akivili dies.

4. "Any resemblance to actual events is totally Aha’s fault"

Ending Notes:

  1. Before I was writing this, while gathering my thought, I am reminded of a certain character from D. Gray Man. If anyone knows him up to the current day's manga, you'd probably know what I'm alluding to. The Millennium Earl, a man who used to lead a pretty normal and average existence until something happened with his brother and then his mind shattered. I then mused to myself and thought about that turn of the Millennium prophecy about a devil appearing at 1999 and thought it to be quite the amusing comparison in my head.

https://preview.redd.it/s5w18sr1kv4h1.png?width=1490&format=png&auto=webp&s=f006f076d448ab3fbd280e0467aec86f0a8ba90d

  1. Enroute is actually loaded up on some interesting gear.

https://preview.redd.it/rp4qrmtqkv4h1.png?width=885&format=png&auto=webp&s=6657b5d02e95db88bee6cc685c1223ff348ee2bf

A ring that seemingly allows for teleportation to misery.

https://preview.redd.it/p1xrdofvlv4h1.png?width=888&format=png&auto=webp&s=6ab17499c3c37558bbc5261ce07e98c3ebc0e377

And a sword that sounds like it controls probability. Which is the one thing that you never want to hear if you are fighting against someone who uses probability as their ability.

  1. His title "Demon Lord from Beyond" might not be quite accurate. I had thought that the whole Destruction invasion was an inside job ground operation from gut instinct. And from what Asat said about raising Graphia, I now wonder if there was no invasion before she herself started drawing the monsters.

  2. Besides the actual sightings of Aha in the Swarm Disaster and perhaps the whole debacle with the Emperor's Wars, there is actually 0 confirmed sightings of Aha in recent history.

https://preview.redd.it/nv2k0lecmv4h1.png?width=898&format=png&auto=webp&s=eedb6b0b7e234f1ae2b373a6cb87a26ebd491952

So this might actually be a factual statement if Asat was Aha. But if Aha is dead, what is Asat's goals? Well, at the start of this post I was talking about how Aha's plan to turn Oroboros into the Aeon of Desires was the whole point of all these Elation Games. https://www.reddit.com/r/StarRailLore/comments/1sx6gqm/ahas_plan_the_aeon_of_desire_kuchiba_the_avatar/

What if it is the opposite? What if Oroboros started out as something like the Aeon of Desires and that losing the Primum Mobile was what cause THEIR path to change into Voracity?

And so, as Aha THEMSELVES was degrading. THEY recruited people like Evanescia and planted Ambrosial Arbors around all THEIR game areas to be overseers because THEY knew that THEY couldn't last that long.

So Asat Pramad's goals might actually be to stop himself or anyone else to be the newly revived Aeon of Elation.

As Ruan Mei said in the story, "When coincidences piles up, they cease to be coincidences."

  1. You know something? Aha and Isee are names can all be fused together to make a rather famous phrase.

Aha, I see!

  1. Aha is the Aeon closest to humanity while Asat Pramad is the Ravager that is closest to be a human. An interesting parallel, don't you think?
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u/MiyukiAkibara — 1 month ago

Pyro Archon Enjou took the Pyro Gnosis.

Is Natlan truly freed from the Abyss? No.

In Natlan, is it really true that no one fight alone? No.

Because in Natlan, one place is still steeped in Abyssal corruption and one man has been fighting alone. The man who was known as Enjou, or the Lavawalker.

Now, it may seem foolish to try and make a Mare Jivari theory when everything about the place has contradictory lore because of Venti who "blew it off the timeline." But I think I still see some threads that could be tied together so, let's begin.

The man who walks on the lava:

Firstly, I'm going to try and pick apart the enigma that is Enjou to try and figure out what is it that this man is truly after or who he even is.

While his words and actions themselves are confusing, the last few words he said the last time we saw him seems to finally revealed what he is after. He's looking for his homeland.

https://preview.redd.it/060i8bb5323h1.png?width=1315&format=png&auto=webp&s=3010f86fa09213eb509795921545ac1bbbc903fb

But here's the thing, due to Venti/Istaroth reasons, THIS Mare Jivari doesn't seem like HIS Mare Jivari.

Let me explain.

In his artifact set: https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Lavawalker the Mare Jivari that we see is vastly different from the Mare Jivari that we fought the Bakunawa in. What I mean is, that it is described to be a hellscape of fire and lava- one that more closely resembles the "fake" Mare Jivari that the Abyss... made? To captured Bennett in the last summer patch.

https://preview.redd.it/7w30w8eb723h1.png?width=1297&format=png&auto=webp&s=d5e6fe79f9e6655c75acf8edca9f340386deb302

So what happened? There is two separate ages of the Mare Jivari that is recorded down, one that is perpetually on fire and one that has become a windless ash filled land. And the answer is simple, the land is burnt out. With the passage of time, the entirety of the land has been burned to literal ash with nothing left that can support the inferno. Thusly, it turned into the Mare Jivari that we walked into as the Traveler.

But what about what happened to the Lavawalker? From the time he went by the identity as Lavawalker to the point of being Enjou?

  1. He either lost his memories, hence his weird dialogue: "If there truly is a homeland I have forgotten, could it be within this realm of smoldering, shattered time?"

  2. He's an Abyssal mimic of the man who used to be the Lavawalker. Similar to "a man" who is named Quenin in the quest Twisted Extension.

https://preview.redd.it/alba2aawb23h1.png?width=835&format=png&auto=webp&s=b938cf8bb66fe9bbc4aeac63b0a2174c10d444f7

The original "Quenin" had died sometimes ago, but the Abyss decided to mimic him to the point of not even realizing that itself was a mimic. Thusly, it can be speculated that the Abyss has created an Lavawalker mimic that conveniently forgets crucial info about himself.

https://preview.redd.it/0308poz2c23h1.png?width=547&format=png&auto=webp&s=75fc79ddc0fc043f539bb404d8e65e57c6a5c51f

Another odd thing is, the Abyss didn't just copy him once. It did it multiple of times throughout Ochkanatlan. In the quest The Lone Isle Named Night, the one you pick up an unhatched egg who you would later use to fight in Linnea's Character Quest, you see another Quenin.

https://preview.redd.it/qkfzgugrc23h1.png?width=495&format=png&auto=webp&s=eb8b9ee35e58b86aa6f94215714c2b7ee513ccee

Much like how "Enjou" is described as during the player's battle with him.

https://preview.redd.it/rifxm63yc23h1.png?width=542&format=png&auto=webp&s=091547657c98ec402e982e4794438f5045842d43

  1. He's just actually really old and kind of forgot a few things in his long journey. In 6.6, the answer to King Deshret's riddle was time.

https://preview.redd.it/gzupyfsdd23h1.png?width=898&format=png&auto=webp&s=a8c414d6aee652e204c435ebad0607004541823e

With the passage of time, the Lavawalker's dreams and wishes may have begun to fade and smolder, much like how the land of Mare Jivari ran out of things to burn.

The Gnosis heist:

Now, I think I've talked enough about the person himself and can move to my thoughts on why I think he was the one to take the Pyro Gnosis and what he is trying to do with it.

So, to begin with, Nahida talked about the burning of Irminsul with an interesting amount of detail- specifically that it burned for 7 days and 7 nights. Now, I don't know if those numbers means anything but I just want to draw everyone's attention to the fire itself. There was a lot of fire and a long time that it is burning for. And since that after the fire, the Gnosis was gone, if we are to assume that if it was taken, then taken during the fire. This automatically draws me to someone like the Lavawalker who is known to be pretty fire proof himself.

https://preview.redd.it/q3yb40shx13h1.png?width=1058&format=png&auto=webp&s=d01eadf4e0a25a12fd18c2d7f261f9746c1aebab

But that isn't the only thing that got me suspicious of Enjou. Remember the time when Enjou said that watching a wall disappear gives him a rush like watching a huge library burn down?

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Well, what just happened in 6.6?

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Irminsul, inarguably, the largest library of the world burned down. And I would put mora down on a bet that he was nearby, watching this momentous occasion going down.

So why does he need to Pyro Gnosis? Well, to probably save his homeland, the Mare Jivari from being burnt to ashes. With the land itself being in a temporal mess thanks to Istaroth/Venti, this goal might actually be possible. Using the power of the Pyro Gnosis, he can defeat his foes + the unstable time of this place, he could possibly try and go to an era BEFORE the Mare Jivari became a hellscape.

A deeper layer:

Now, before I end this post. I wanna try and peel another layer off of Enjou's identity. An identity that is deeper than just being the "Lavawalker."

  1. Enjou is Chaac, the first human who Kulkukan taught to use Phlogiston.

The reason for this idea is simple, Chaac and Kulkukan was the one who use Phlogiston to make the Upper Sanctum.

https://preview.redd.it/3bimx5akl23h1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=831913c6a5da50c0bb1d287f818ee3f24d56e797

The Muratan tribe were the tribe of Anemo in Natlan.

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And looking at the Upper Sanctum... I'd say having Anemo would be really helpful up there. But of course, Kukulkan later kicked everyone off that floating rock, and the people then scattered throughout Natlan with some most definitely would've ended up becoming the Muratans.

Then there's the readable that talks about Chaac. https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Records_of_Hanan_Pacha gives off Enjou's demeanor. Although, this book kind of reads as parody, so I don't know how much this is trust worthy.

  1. Enjou was a Pyro Archon. The last one from the Muratan Tribe.

When Citlali asks for Enjou's real name, he refused to answer.

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And in the next scene after, Citlali talks about the names she read off the nearby inscriptions.

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The names of former Pyro Archons.

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And this makes me think that perhaps, we should be open to the idea that Enjou might be a Pyro Archon of the past. There's also one inscription in the room that talks about a Pyro Archon that has been gone for a decade.

https://preview.redd.it/mjue3m6zn23h1.png?width=612&format=png&auto=webp&s=41144c8eea08f313b4bd1ce03f049a3fcc77006c

Although, this one might be Mauvika, it could also be describing the Lavawalker who just... walked into the Mare Jivari and didn't turn back.

There's also the thing about the Agnidus Agate Gemstone. https://genshin-impact.fandom.com/wiki/Agnidus_Agate_Gemstone We never really found out what all these lines mean or who said them, specifically the 3rd line.

"A pilgrimage for a wish; a battle to earn a name...
Burnt to cinders for a dream.
If the intention yet remains, achieved ▉▉'s truth he has."

But all three lines could also apply to Enjou as the Lavawalker who went on a pilgrimage through the Mare Jivari, reduced to ashes and he himself still have a desire to free the Mare Jivari after death. The censored part is also interesting because there's really no one else who has a hidden identity in Natlan other than Enjou at the moment.

Ending Notes:

  1. I had fun making this theory. Though the evidence was a bit scarce, sometimes ideas and theories only have one thread that is sticking out. Like how Collei being the host of Nabu Malikata's remains was only hinted at from the one prophetic dream. I've at least tried to weave my idea with more substance than that.

  2. As the person who made a Nabu Malikata is inside someone theory, I placed the wrong bet on the wrong 4*. I said she was inside Layla and that now seems dead. But maybe there's still hope that it's another fragment of Nabu inside her? Or a Seelie at least? Oh well, one can hope.

  3. Thanks for reading, don't go yelling at me about the title. I just wanted something popping so this post would standout.

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u/MiyukiAkibara — 1 month ago

Does the record changing effect of Irminsul affect Natlan?

After finishing 6.6's AQ and sat on it for a bit. I had felt something nagging at me.

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Mauvika claims that her records isn't part of Irminsul, thusly- It is then extended to Natlan as a whole.

So, if Natlan isn't affected. A question arises.

Does Natlan remember Rukkhadevata and Scaramouche? Or rather, could they have remembered? I reworded this because I'm not quite sure how involved Natlan is with info from other nations. If I recall correctly, Rukkhadevata had not gone to Khaenri'ah 500 years ago and Mauvika did go to Khaenri'ah, so it seems like they should've never met.

Although, they should at least know who all the Harbingers are, right? But never mind this tangent. This would just be a thought experiment if there was no one who remembered in Natlan or there wasn't any records left behind. Although, experiment or not, I felt like this is something that should be explored.

Because if you extend this thought out even further, prior to the Wayobs giving the Natlanese people protection when they left Natlan. How did Irminsul see the people of Natlan when they leave Natlan for the rest of Teyvat? For example, if Bennett helps a old lady finds her cat, does the leylines just records that the cat returned to the old lady by themself?

Although, that issue also applies to us as a Descender, I suppose. I wonder how Irminsul remembers the fight with Ei specifically since it was a 1 v 1 scenario.

Anyways, I'm ending this post here. I'd be grateful if people would discuss how this possible issue plays out.

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u/MiyukiAkibara — 1 month ago

Nilou sensed a disturbance in the force.

Her outfit was tingling, the horns on her head picked up some waves. She didn't know what, all she knew was something was going on.

The writers were trembling, they couldn't let Nilou know, otherwise that red haired dancer would manifest herself out of their monitor like those horror movies. So they had Collei immediately give her remains away.

u/MiyukiAkibara — 2 months ago

Who activated the "Shuhu" Mask? And an experiment on breaking the rule.

Ladies and gentlemen, and all those who doesn't fall cleanly into the old world's binary grouping. I have a question, well more than one question, but let's start with two.

  1. The first Herald of Death's supplicant mask, who was the owner of that mask?

  2. And the second question is, who activated "Fulwish's" mask or when was it activated?

Let me start by expounding my first question a little. 15 years ago, Marcus Antali who was the person behind the Herald of Death incident killed a bunch of people as a supplicant. But the issue I see here is the supplicant mask that he had, who's identity was it registered under as? Marcus Antali or Shuhu?

Because you see, by the way Marcus acted 15 years ago, it was clear that he was injected and infected with Shuhu's cells when he went on his merry rampage. So, the timing of when he became a supplicant matters, before Shuhu's cell was injected or after and whether or not that mask was registered under him or Shuhu.

Now, moving onto the present day. When exactly did Fulwish gained access to the mask that she used or who activated it? Many of you might be tempted to say that of course she was the one who activated it- But right before her boss fight, it was suggested that Shuhu's cells were not injected into her yet.

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She's holding it right there in her hands.

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And it seems like we're looking at her injection in real time. So, who was it that activated this mask if it couldn't have been Fulwish prior to this moment as she was not part Shuhu yet?

Now here comes my dilemma. I was going to write a theory about how the Games from 15 years ago never ended, but as I thought about it some more as I was writing, I realizes that the answer I came up with doesn't quite fit in established lore.

So the only logical explanation for the questions I posed is that the first mask was registered to Marcus and some random person activated the Shuhu mask in this game. But that's the boring answer and I don't know if they would choose the boring answer when there's a conspiracy afoot.

However, like I said, nothing I come up with fits a logical theory under the current set of lore. The original theory that I came up with stems from something weird the I saw at the end of this readable. https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Stories_and_Secrets_of_the_Supplicant_Masks

"There are exceptions to this process, of course. For instance, after the Phantasmoon Games ended ██ years ago, the Phantasmoon in the sky spat out eight masks like watermelon seeds, raining them down and causing some property damage to public facilities."

I thought that this incident could've stemmed from the Games 15 years ago and that these masks that rained down might've been fakes that Asat made because Himeko's masks had been within her family for generations.

https://preview.redd.it/gf9hy1ev440h1.png?width=865&format=png&auto=webp&s=0f4740dec8100a92e420e79356560ab30cd230a0

And so, if all 8 dropped at once, that's impossible to identify which one used to be yours. After all, they're not Dragon Balls where there are stars marking them. So I had thought that these masks are fakes but then if this is true, it wouldn't serve any purpose with my idea of the Games 15 years ago never ended because Himeko's mask WAS deactivated when Sparxie stole it.

Now, it might still be possible that the Games DID end but Asat somehow preserved Shuhu's mask activation through some method. But that requires me jumping through hoops with pure speculation instead of using established facts and so this is why I'm not presenting this as a theory but rather a rambling.

Now moving on to other reasons to why I still decided to make this post. The idea of a Game that hasn't ended yet is simply too enticing when there ARE evidence that a "never ending" game is possible. Fulwish herself said it:

https://preview.redd.it/uw6h3fgk640h1.png?width=628&format=png&auto=webp&s=0b95e875baea470823e3962704cbc58463c8411b

And then there is a Equation in DU with someone who pulled it off. https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Eternal_Supplicant Until Evanescia gave them a chop.

And the readable https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Phantasmoon_Games_Secret_Records that confirms that the events of the Equation DID happened and someone tried to do it again until Nescia chopped them.

But anyways, I laid down my cards and it's a rather dysfunctional hand. If anyone would like to try tackling the issue and make a theory of there own using these cards, do it.

Now, moving onto a thought experiments on how to break the Game's rules.

If Phantylia were to participate in the past, she cannot participate anymore in the future, right?

But what if she possesses a human and then tries to activate the mask again? Will she be able to participate again?

Or if she cannot participate again that way, can she take over the body of a supplicant who had already activated a mask to participate again?

I pose these sets of questions because Phantylia might be here.

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This now ends my post, hope you all had fun reading.

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u/MiyukiAkibara — 2 months ago

Remember when Nahida had him kill off his Segments? Well, it seems like he didn't need them anyways considering how this man just won't stay down.

u/MiyukiAkibara — 2 months ago

Second theory of this patch and it's probably my last theory for the patch depending on how much I write here. Anyways as always I have no idea how to properly do introductions, so let's jump into it.

Let's start with this topic.

Aha's plan, The Aeon of Desire:

In 4.2, we learned that the Phantasmoon Games were a means to an end for sealing Oroboros. But a nagging thought persisted in my mind, is that really it? Sealing? No, that cannot be because the one who seemingly oversees this entire process is Aha, the Elation. Because this situation is very different from the time when Qlipoth sealed Tayzzyronth, something that would be in line for the Aeon of Perservation to PERSERVE something.

So, digging further into this way of thinking, you'll realize that even for the Aeon of Elation, THEY shouldn't be able to go against THEIR Primum Mobile which makes them the embodiment of joy. Is it really possible for them to rob the joy of another- that being Oroboros, and keep THEM locked up?

I say no. Which leads me to believing that Aha must be planning one of two things. The rehabilitation of Oroboros or to fuse the Path of Elation with Voracity.

Let me explain both ideas.

  1. In the good old days when we restraint Kafka and she told us how Aeons can "die," she said there were 3 methods. Although, let's be real, that second one where she said Aeon killing Aeon isn't really true at all considering the example she used, Qlipoth and Tayzzyronth, is wrong. But I digress, what I'm trying to suggest is that this third method is for the Aeon's path to change.

But how is that change possible? Well, we loop back to the fact that the Phantasmoon Games is keeping Oroboros sealed, and what is the buzzword that is always tied to those Games? Wishpower.

From the readable https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Preface_on_the_Basic_Studies_of_Wishpower the study on Wishpower concludes that they're an energy that is similar if not the same to the Primum Mobile of the Paths. But what is the significance of this? Well, I surmise that in order to keep Oroboros "sealed," the Wishpower that was gathered in these Games are actually fed to Oroboros.

So? You might ask, so what if Wishpower is fed to Oroboros? Well, it all goes back to the properties of the Wishpower, they are akin to Primum Mobile. So I asked myself a question, is it possible that Aha is trying to feed an enormous amount of Wishpower to Oroboros and make THEIR nature change?

After all, they keep repeating the idea that wearing a mask is metaphorically becoming an Aeon and that Wishpower dictates what you are.

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And a version of this was already what Aha had done before.

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THEY stole Evanescia after she had been assimilated into a tree and transplanted her into Planarcadia. Her demeaner also vastly softened from what she was originally. So it is not out of the question that this is Aha's plan. As for what kind of Aeon Oroboros might turn into, Desire perhaps. Desire isn't too radically different from Voracity and it would make sense that this is what THEY would become after absorbing countless wishes from the people of Planarcadia. We've also described Voracity as the greatest desire in the Swarm Disaster SU before.

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How did Wishpower come to be?

Before I elaborate on the second idea, I would like to take a second here to further discuss on how Wishpower can exist in Planarcadia. I suspect that the manifestation of Wishpower is only possible on Planarcadia because of Oroboros. In the Floating Grease Chronicle's first part. https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/The_Age_of_Drifting_Grease It implies that the presence of Oroboros on Planarcadia is why all things on this planet exists. Note this passage:

A great whale older than the gods, stranded on the starry beach.
There trees began to grow, and humans were the earth.
It was trembling mud, that was born from filthy blood.

That passage clearly implies that because Oroboros is on Planarcadia, the primordial life of this planet came to be. But what does this mean? Well, remember that Imagenae are born of Wishpower and that will lead you to the answer. Everything in the arcadia is technically part of Oroboros. I believe the only reason that the humans of Planarcadia can function normally outside of Planarcadia despite their imagenae origins is because they've mated with outside humans and produced a high amount of mixed bloods.

But I digress. Wishpower being something akin to the life blood of Oroboros can apply to both of my ideas. In the first case, Aha feeding Wishpower to Oroboros is akin to the process of oxygenation in a living creature's body. Aha would be like the lungs, pumping the leaked Wishpower from Oroboros back into THEIR body with a charge of desire from the Phantasmoon Games.

Or because Wishpower is Oroboros' lifeblood, Aha is trying to spend it all and kill/weaken THEM to consume THEM.

  1. The dark answer. Aha is trying to consume Oroboros.

"Incinerate all wishes, subdue every evil."

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That is written in the core location of the Phantasmoon Games. Looking at the incinerate wording, it doesn't seem like the goal is to feed Wishpower to Oroboros but to gradually weaken THEM by draining more and more "blood."

And because of Aha had intricately tied THEMSELVES to Wishpower, THEY would now have a direct link with Oroboros that THEY might be able to consume THEM like how Xipe did it to Ena.

This idea is also supported by how Aha is nowhere to be seen even when we gained the Path of Elation MC. So, THEY might not be able to show up because THEY'RE busy eating Oroboros.

Additionally, if Aha was serious about the winner of this game being the next Aeon of Elation. This might explain why THEY said what THEY said, because THEY already have an exit strategy: To become whatever kind of Aeon that results from eating Oroboros. Although the idea is a bit dubious because if Aha does lost the power of Elation through this plan, wouldn't THEY just end up being the new Voracity?

But yeah, I'm not too sure about this one. I'm only offering it because I could see it happening if the writers wrote this while being drunk.

Kuchiba, heart of Oroboros:

Before we begin this idea, I would like to make things clear on what I mean. Because I know there are people who would get mad about the semantics.

Firstly, do anyone of you considers scepter δ-me13 as Nous? It was used to be a part of THEIR body, so what is your judgement from this info?

Second, do any of you considers Irontomb to be Nous? It's something born inside the scepter δ-me13 after all.

Thirdly, do you consider Phainon, Cyrene, and all the other "living" beings of Amphoreus to be Nous?

If your answer is yes, no, no. Then great, you'll now know my position on Kuchiba. If it's no, no, no then just don't get mad when I equate Kuchiba as Oroboros. Because that's what I believe she fundamentally is.

In the new Simulated Universe, there is an interesting story.

https://preview.redd.it/ew5ku50iuqxg1.png?width=861&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c44af8494865cfe614283e03ba57849144bda56

This story is about this woman, dressed in dark clothing.

https://preview.redd.it/dicmtf9muqxg1.png?width=231&format=png&auto=webp&s=bbac07a32e8bbea20082301f6c60a6bcd3f1eda6

Who remembers her homeland where it was either being the hunter or the hunted.

"Then, one day, a light of impossible beauty split the dark. I was drawn to it. I left behind the primal hunger, the old instincts... and I left my homeland."

I believe that the light is the Wishpower of humanity. and that she feels tired after joining their society and wants to go back to her Mother which is most likely Oroboros.

See? An interesting story, right? And this SU lore dropped at the same time as the 4.1 story which included this darkly dressed woman talking about being lost and an era that was either be the hunter or the hunted.

https://preview.redd.it/fgsppsd5rqxg1.png?width=1125&format=png&auto=webp&s=bd0b8f666503f3fc486085c1bf0d66bd1dd15fae

"Not knowing who you are, not knowing why you exist here... that isn't life."

This is what she says, and I'm inclined to believe her that she is somewhat lost and confused. Because I believe that she is a being that Oroboros had directly created as a result of being transformed by the Wishpower that Aha is either injecting THEM or siphoning from THEM. (This Kuchiba idea works both ways from the 2 Aha plans I wrote earlier, she can either be a creation that will ascend to be the new Aeon of Desire or a creation that wants to break the shackles off THEIR main body. But from now on, I'll stick to the first plan to finishing writing the Kuchiba section cause it's a more pleasant idea.) And now, because the Voracity path had been slowly changed by Aha, she now feels confused.

Now, I'll try and decipher what Kuchiba was trying to convey under my ideas.

https://preview.redd.it/rfdasx4erqxg1.png?width=1501&format=png&auto=webp&s=fa8422ddae55da099ef620e4d3fafba2126f493b

Oroboros used to be an Aeon that just goes out and find their own things to consume.

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But now, Oroboros doesn't even need to move and Aha feeds THEM Wishpower periodically.

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Can the Phantasmoon Games create a new Path for Oroboros?

Ending notes:

  1. I'm wondering if Planarcadia and the other planets that hosts Elation games all each holds a head of Oroboros. Although, it's only been stated that Wishpower only exists on Planarcadia. But if the main head is here, perhaps that's why Wishpower is concentrated here.
  2. I'm getting sleepy and I'm not going up there to try and fit this in seamlessly so I'm putting it here. This is more evidence that Oroboros or the Path of Voracity CAN shift.

https://preview.redd.it/ciojqelwxqxg1.png?width=933&format=png&auto=webp&s=10edc634f2a0a74db566c8702aced25042ff8c66

The shadow in Ashveil's arm is clearly a head of Oroboros and it seems like it had been trained to only eat the guilty. I don't know if that it because of the power of the Hunt or his own conviction though.

  1. I hope I didn't made this post too much like a rambling mess.

  2. I'm getting really tired so I'm just going to hit post, if I forgot anything, I'll edit or write about it later.

Edit:

  1. I knew I missed something. Remember that Equation I wrote about a while back? https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Leviathan_of_the_East

Leviathan is Oroboros
East is Japan and Planarcadia is inspired by Japan.

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u/MiyukiAkibara — 2 months ago

First and foremost, I will begin to clarify once again that it is UNKNOWN who brought Shuhu's flesh into Planarcadia. I am saying this ahead of time because I know for a certainty that some people who have done the epilogue side quest will misunderstand what Mia had actually confessed to.

https://preview.redd.it/kgxrx75jtixg1.png?width=1505&format=png&auto=webp&s=930eacc6f4d3e8abc1fa5c5882c7700acbf575bc

Under the "boss's" orders (*CoughsinBoothillMuddlefudgerOswaldoSwearWords*) She was just smuggling biological weapons to try and cause a mess and make Pearl and in turn, Diamond look bad. She clearly states that it was not Shuhu's flesh that they smuggled in.

What I'm guessing is that actual bioweapons were shipped to Planarcadia and placed at a warehouse or whatnot, someone infiltrated and I guess put Shuhu's flesh in place of the bioweapons? I'm only inferring this detail from the line "item were swapped with Shuhu's flesh at Planarcadia." So to me, it seems to confirm that it was the correct package until they reached Planarcadia. Now, could it be a case like Tingyun where it was swapped out mid-transport? Well, again, Mia said "at Planarcadia," but for the sake of argument sure. It's possible that I'm misinterpreting it and that the simple answer is the right one but that seems to be a mellow dramatic answer. I'm still not satisfied with Ruan Mei somehow encountering the dying Tingyun out in the middle of space for somereason.

As for the bio weapons... I guess the T-Virus or something. Something something Baseball Raccoon something Raccoon City. It's a Resident Evil reference that I'm making here, but the point is, apparently those bioweapons are not important at the moment.

But anyways, that went on way longer than it was supposed to.

So bringing us back onto the right topic.

Who brought Shuhu's flesh in?

I haven't seen much discussions about this issue here and I believe it is important to bring the attention back to a really really suspicious man.

He's covered in bandages, Wears clothing that are primary black and red. That's right- I'm talking about Mortenax Blade!

https://preview.redd.it/2g4z4tcjqixg1.png?width=867&format=png&auto=webp&s=11f975cfbc1930718e4a16cf014fe213cb636917

Just kidding.

https://preview.redd.it/8plmpqvsqixg1.png?width=1492&format=png&auto=webp&s=3c9d98ffd68734cef9716ad7c853f03759d5a661

I'm of course talking about this man, Himeko's father Ryusuke. He's the one who brought Shuhu's flesh in and is actively lying about everything.

https://preview.redd.it/bacvbvvhqixg1.png?width=461&format=png&auto=webp&s=daa7dc74629488976a35777c345f55aaa1063d01

Because there is something seriously wrong with what he says pretty much every time he steps onto the screen.

Firstly, to try and cure Himeko of her illness, Ryosuke had traveled all over to try and search for a cure. One such incident was when he did a painting for Elixir Seekers.

https://preview.redd.it/peat6w1prixg1.png?width=1038&format=png&auto=webp&s=ae8d8b9eb2345fa55371dfab36173befd9d5a4af

But he doesn't actually mention whether or not they paid him with the "elixir" for his work. And regarding his "countless disease" cure all, there was something else that had that description in this patch.

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The readable: https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/Nurturing_Record_of_Subject_A Speaks of Shuhu's flesh to be something that will eliminate illness. So I propose that this so call "elixir" is nothing more than Shuhu's flesh itself. Or to be more accurate, perhaps blood since it's described to be an elixir. Or is it more correct to say tree sap? Plant sap? Either way, I believe that they are perhaps the same thing.

Oh also, when you read this readable, you might think that it was Asat Pramad who brought Shuhu's cells over. And while that is technically ultimately true just like it is true to say all thing in the universe stems from the Big Bang, the process of how something happened is as equally important to the origin and outcome. Which is to say, I don't believe this readable contradicts this idea that I'm writing about.

Ryusuke is lying about his location in the past 15 years.

In the 4.2 story, if you actually select the optional dialogue, you'd get him saying that he will never not be around for the Phantasmoon Games again. That's why he flew back to Planarcadia.

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But, if you remember 4.1 he said something quite different.

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"All these years, I've been trapped in this 'room that represents the past' that I imagenated, and I've NEVER left it."

Okay, with the exception of bathroom trips and food, maybe he does leave sometimes. Maybe I'm being too tough on him. Wait, hold on, do people who are medically immortal need to eat and produce waste?

But why would he said he "flew here" in 4.2? Well, because he's a lying sack of sh-.

Anyways, moving.

Those bandages:

Do I need to explain? He's covered in bandages like Blade and no one is addressing that red elephant in the room. I don't think there's anything more suspicious than that in his character design.

That classroom:

Has anyone wonder HOW he made that classroom? I'm bringing attention to that same line from above again, but this is what he said: "All these years, I've been trapped in this 'room that represents the past' that I imagenated"

But the fundamental issue here is HOW did he know what happened that day? Records shows that Ryusuke was not there on that day.

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And yet his classroom was able to replicate conversations where he was not there for. But sure, there are many ways he COULD'VE found out like the Nihilux technique of hiring Memokeepers and looking through the memories. But then, he SHOULD'VE know that Himeko is alive.

Ending Note:

  1. Remember all those discussions about how "Asat Pramad cannot laugh"? Well that certainly didn't turn out well in this patch now did it? The man was laughing and chuckling the whole time he was here.

  2. This isn't a theory based on anything solid. Just a passing thought that is based on a gut feeling. I have a feeling that Fulwish was experimented on by her parents or Ryusuke. Her ability is too weird for me to believe that it developed all on its own. When Belle was talking to Fulwish about her parents, she had a strange look on her face.

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Though that just might be because they're absentee parents, but the line that followed suggest that she was loved a lot. So I don't know if they can be absent all the time and yet also sounds doting about his daughter this much.

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There's definitely a deeper story here that I'm not quite sure what's going on. She also knows about the classroom that Ryusuke made that constantly replays the past. Maybe I'm trying to work this in because I've heard of somethings that Ryusuke did in HI3.

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  1. My next post will be about who actually Kuchiba might be and Aha's plan for starting the Phantasmoon Games. With the reveal of Asat Pramad, I am fairly confident that he is intricately tied with Ryusuke and so Kuchiba must be the other option.

Spoiler Alert: It's within THEIR nature to spread Elation even to an Aeon.

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