~4.5M Early Tuesday Estimate for Supergirl. If it holds, around a strong 55% increase from Monday. Bigger increase than the usual comps like Morbius, The Marvels, Joker 2, but slighly below Dark Phoenix (56.1% jump from 2.48M monday - 3.88M Tuesday)
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~4.5M Early Tuesday Estimate for Supergirl. If it holds, around a strong 55% increase from Monday. Bigger increase than the usual comps like Morbius, The Marvels, Joker 2, but slighly below Dark Phoenix (56.1% jump from 2.48M monday - 3.88M Tuesday)

Source

Basically it plays closely to Dark Phoenix, so 2x legs should at least be on the table for ~75M finish floor, but we are about to see how Minions will affect it and second weekend will play.

u/NGGKroze — 16 hours ago

Can Supergirl have legs? For Summer Comic Book movies in the B-/B+ CS range, the median is 2.27x, however, its Monday (2.9M) it's only 7.8% of the OW, falling behind the average - 8,7% for B- and 9.5% for B-/B+ range. It's doing similarly to Dark Phoenix (32 OW/65 Final). DOM gross should be 75-85M

u/NGGKroze — 1 day ago
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~7.5M for Supergirl Sunday. OW might go down to low $36M

Source

~30% drop from Saturday, rather than the earlier reports, which were 9.1M (15%).

u/NGGKroze — 3 days ago
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Per Deadline: "Her [Supergirl] territory grosses just didn't cut it, with the pic failing to rank № 1 anywhere in its top grossing territories"

u/NGGKroze — 3 days ago

Supergirl estimated 68M Global Debut, ranks #16 of DC live action movies released since 2013 (DCEU). It's the 6th movie debuting below 100M globally. OS is the 2nd lowest, only above Blue Bettle. Global debut is also below pre-2013 Batman Begins (90.4M), Watchman (82.7M), Green Lantern (70.2M)

u/NGGKroze — 4 days ago
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UK: "Supergirl is looking very quiet" - Supergirl debuted with £575K on Thursday. This is on par with Madame Web (£597K) and The Flash ($624K), but below Morbius (£700K) and The Marvels (£1.09M). If it follows the comps opening weekend should be in the £3-4M range.

Sources: Barry on BOT / UKBoxOffice on BOT

Looks like even the leading market overseas won't be there (at least for the opening weekend) for Supergirl as some of the earlier data pointed at ~£5.5 ceiling. It looks to open still in range, just on the lower end.

As I pointed out yesterday for the OS number, if UK slips (below £3.6-3.7), no market will have over $5M opening which now seems more probable.

u/NGGKroze — 5 days ago
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Supergirl - Slightly updated OS numbers, now points towards OS opening of 23-37M. Most of the markets for now seams in total collapse and missing the high-end of markets like UK, could lead to sub $30M. No market will break $10M OW and if UK also slips, no market will break $5M OW. Global OW $65-80M

Well... thing indeed look grim as previously range was $30-$45M, Now, only 1 market has a chance to open above $5M USD and the final total gross, maybe 3 or 4 markets had chance to finish above $5M USD - UK, Mexico, Australia, and maybe Brazil & France (that one we will see as it opens next week, but if other European markets are anything to go by, $3-$4M final will be more in line).

On lower end global OW look to be on par with Shazam 2! ($65M Global OW / $134M WW Finish) and on the high end Morbius ($84M Global OW / $167M WW Finish). If some utter total rejection/collapse happens, sub $100M is not out of the realm of possibility, but I would not go that far. Shazam 2! numbers seams more in line here.

And with that I hope you had fun in the last few days. Will go see the movie in a few hours :D. Maybe will do something like this for the 2nd weekend ;)

u/NGGKroze — 6 days ago
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Germany: Supergirl forecast position it at 3rd place, behind Backrooms second weekend and Obession debut. Expected OW admissions ~50-60K, below Shazam! 2 (95K) and The Flash (105K), around 30% of Morbius (168K) & The Marvels (190K), ~10% of Joker 2 (420K). Total around 175K, as much as Morbius OW.

Source: InsideKino

Film Opening weekend Cume by Sunday Final Legs Supergirl vs OW
Supergirl 52.5k 60.0k 175k projected 3.33x x
Blue Beetle 34.5k 34.5k ~125k ~3.6x +52%
Shazam 2 91.0k 95.3k 253.4k 2.79x -42%
The Flash 88.2k 105.4k 290.2k 3.29x -40%
Morbius 168.2k 168.2k ~415k ~2.47x -69%
The Marvels 170.4k 193.6k 417.6k 2.45x -69%
Joker: Folie à Deux 421.9k 421.9k 768.1k 1.82x -88%
u/NGGKroze — 6 days ago
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Italy: Supergirl opening day debuts with €158К / 21К Admissions, on par with Blue Beetle (€142.8k / 19.8k adm.), ~half of The Marvels (€280.7k / 38.2k adm.), Morbius (€321.9k / 46.5k adm.), The Flash (€385.1k / 108.5k adm.)

Source: CINETEL

Movie Opening day Opening weekend Total Legs Supergirl OD vs comp
Supergirl €158k / ~21k adm. x x x x
Blue Beetle €142.8k / 19.8k adm. ~€510k €1.04M / 146.7k adm. 2.05x +11% above Blue Beetle
Shazam 2 €84.4k / 12.5k adm. €836k €1.66M / 242.4k adm. 1.98x +87% above Shazam 2
The Marvels €280.7k / 38.2k adm. €1.59M Thu-Sun / €1.87M incl. Wed €3.30M / 447.2k adm. 2.08x vs Thu-Sun 44% below The Marvels
Morbius €321.9k / 46.5k adm. €1.60M / 218.6k adm. €3.04M / 424.4k adm. 1.90x 51% below Morbius
The Flash €385.1k / 108.5k adm. €1.23M / 221.6k adm. €2.67M / 425.1k adm. 2.18x 59% below The Flash
u/NGGKroze — 6 days ago
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Mexico: [Supergirl] "Thu sales are x0.19 of Superman, x0.3 of The Flash and x0.48 of The Marvels (sans midnights). Hopefully walk-ups pick up but is not looking good for $50M [LC] either, still thinking should end up around it".

Source: Carlangonz on BOT

$50M LC roughly translates to ~2.85M USD, below The Marvels ($2.97M) and Morbius ($3.21M) and half of Joker 2 (5.5M), but Joker also got attrocious legs

Movie Mexico OW [USD] Mexico total gross [USD] Supergirl $2.85M vs OW [USD] Supergirl as % of OW [USD] Mexico legs
Superman $7.88M $23.33M -$5.03M 36.2% 2.96x
Joker: Folie à Deux $5.50M $7.98M -$2.65M 51.9% 1.45x
Morbius $3.21M $8.07M -$0.36M 88.9% 2.52x
The Marvels $2.98M $6.30M -$0.13M 95.8% 2.12x
Shazam! Fury of the Gods $1.86M $3.70M +$0.99M 153.2% 1.99x
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u/NGGKroze — 6 days ago
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Final Supergirl Opening Weekend Prediction - based on current Thursday Estimates by Jat of $6.5M/$8.25M (EA), we are looking at ~$39M opening weekend on par with Morbius ($39M) and Joker 2 ($37.6M), below The Marvels ($46.1M) and the $40M threshold. A bit of walkup business could push it above $40M

u/NGGKroze — 6 days ago
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Had a little fun playing with estimates, Supergirl could lose north of $200M (with total collapse of just $110M WW), but average points more of a -$130-$150M loss, all depending if it finishes ~$110M Globally or might reach a bit higher of $150-160M.

https://preview.redd.it/l87mmd6zxe9h1.png?width=2600&format=png&auto=webp&s=a072294016e6075c2c12451ed5ab1de6f3e274f1

Used 3 comps: The Marvels as direct genre comparison, Furiosa as more mid-point comparison and Haunted Mansion - another Disney bomb which grossed ~130M WW on a budget as high as 150M

Also ran against all comps simple X/X rule in 4 cases for both Ancillaries and Expenses. Variety reported $170M budget and I'm slapping $100M for marketing (could be higher or lower), but looks to fit the average for this type of movie. the 50/100 rule basicaly runs against Deadline breakdowns and uses either 50/50 Ancillaries/Expenses, 100/100, or a mix of 50/100 & 100/50

At the end, those X/X weights are not exact and could differentiate in final reports, because for example residuals for The Marvels might been higher because Sam Jackson and Brie Larson are more expensive than Milly and Co. However if for some reason Gunn overspent here a possibility of -$200M is a reality

Theatrical weights (revenue) are also based on the % based on deadline (basically what Deadline pointed as theatrical revenue %-wise of the total theatrical gross.

In any case, it looks like Supergirl will wipe the $125M+ profit her cousin generated last summer.

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u/NGGKroze — 7 days ago
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With the revisited estimates for Supergirl opening of $34-$43M, the $100M domestic dream might be dead. Similar movies which collapsed before release in tracking or outright didn't have any demand basically capped at 2x legs domestically. Domestic final could range ~$60M up to $85M

All the comps basically grossed around 75-85% of their entire gross in 2 weeks. Outside of Joker 2, all the others had ~$12-$15M left in the domestic tank.

Supergirl will need on high end opening ($43M) at the very least ~2.33x legs, which neither of the comps had to reach $100M domestic. On the lower end ($34M), it would require almost 3x and with how much it collapsed on final days, this is out of the question.

To beat The Marvels, it will need Dark Phoenix legs and opening on the high end, but that is only if it somehow survives that long before Odyssey and Spider-Man kill it (Maybe Minions next week will already do the killing).

Opening on the lower end and collapsing like Joker 2, will lead to domestic gross below Shazam 2 and Joker 2 totals, but also below The Flash opening weekend alone

u/NGGKroze — 7 days ago
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SK: Supergirl debuts with 79% on CGV Golden Egg, Above The Marvels (71%) on par with Ant-Man 3 (79%) & Thor 4 (79%), below Captain America 4 (88%), Superman (89%)

https://cgv.co.kr/cnm/cgvChart/movieChart/30001114

Comps are the current CVG scores as those dropped from their initial scores, so Supergirl might come down to The Marvels level.

u/NGGKroze — 8 days ago
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SUPERGIRL: Quickly Summerized International Data and some weights against Superman. Overall, presales everywhere seem weak to dreadful. Opening Weekend Internationally could go as low as ~$30M up to maybe $45M. We might be looking at below $100M global opening here.

Supergirl seems to be in heading in an exclusive club of Comic Book movies over 100M budget, but below 100M global opening. Neither of those we profitable. It's very pessimistic, but if Supergirl opens Internationally that low, there is strong chance Supergirl total grosses on most countries to be below Superman opening weekend in those, which means below 100M OS gross.

Film Global OW Final WW Global legs Legs >2x Legs >2.5x Legs >3x
Kraven the Hunter ~$26.0M ~$62.0M 2.38x
Blue Beetle ~$43.4M ~$130.8M 3.01x
Fantastic Four 2015 ~$58.8M ~$167.9M 2.86x
Shazam! Fury of the Gods ~$65.5M ~$134.1M 2.05x
Green Lantern ~$69.6M* ~$237.2M 3.41x
The Suicide Squad ~$72.2M ~$168.7M 2.34x
Watchmen ~$83.2M ~$185.4M 2.23x
u/NGGKroze — 8 days ago

Supergirl International Estimates - Opening, Retention, Legs vs. Superman and The Marvels

Sub $100M is possible, but needs total collapse and rejection, which even The Marvels, The Flash and Joker 2 did not face (in a sense to do below $100M OS). Social media so far is possitive, so it might avoid that.

We should get better grip this week how things will be moving as more reports come in. Legs will be interesting here as summer should provide a bit more than for example The Marvels in November, but legs above 2.5x might be too much to reach. 2-2.2x should give it the "comfortable" over $100M. but not that much over.

Opening below $40M-$45M will make $100M OS far harder. Any CBM in recent years which has below 100M OS gross was also below 200M world wide. Only few selected had over 100M OS, but still failed to clear 200M WW because they outright collapsed in the domestic market.

It will be a bomb, we just don't know how much of a bomb it will be. I can see $300M being out of the question and $250M being the ceiling at its best outcome. Sub $200M will be historic.

u/NGGKroze — 10 days ago

2026 has the potential to have ten $1B at the box office, with Mario Galaxy already there, followed by Michael. The other sure hits looks to be Doomsday and Spider-Man and potentially Toy Story 5. Moana & Minions will be close, while Odyssey, Dune and Jumanji have chance, but might fall short.

u/NGGKroze — 22 days ago

Another History in the making - Obsession is on a path to become #1 TIFF Premiere movie this decade, beating The Wild Robot ($334.5M) and to become #2 of all time for TIFF Premiere, only behind The Martian ($630.2M). Domestic wise is already #1 this decade and could challenge The Martian ($228.4M).

u/NGGKroze — 23 days ago
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"Obsession" Madness. The Horror hit has outgrossed all 68 Sundance US Dramatic Competition movies box office run and acquisition values combined between 2020 and 2025

Measure Value
Obsession worldwide gross $224.80M
Sundance 2020–2025 annual-subtotal sum $203.88M
Difference in Obsession’s favor +$20.91M
Obsession vs Sundance total 1.10×
Year # Film Gross / proxy value Buyer / distributor
2020 1 The 40-Year-Old Version $8,000,000 Netflix
2020 2 Blast Beat N/A Vertical / Sony
2020 3 Charm City Kings N/A SPC → HBO Max
2020 4 Dinner in America $22,364 Atlas
2020 5 The Evening Hour N/A Strand
2020 6 Farewell Amor $4,689 IFC
2020 7 Minari $15,300,000 A24
2020 8 Miss Juneteenth $38,355 Vertical
2020 9 Never Rarely Sometimes Always $891,527 Focus
2020 10 Nine Days $1,004,748 SPC
2020 11 Palm Springs $19,012,871 Neon / Hulu
2020 12 Save Yourselves! $301,162 Bleecker St
2020 13 Shirley $309,641 Neon
2020 14 Sylvie’s Love $9,000,000 Amazon
2020 15 Wander Darkly N/A Lionsgate
2020 16 Zola $4,998,097 A24
2020 subtotal $58,883,454
2021 1 CODA $26,905,058 Apple
2021 2 I Was a Simple Man N/A Strand
2021 3 Jockey $121,024 SPC
2021 4 John and the Hole $25,386 IFC
2021 5 Mayday $4,382 Magnolia
2021 6 On the Count of Three $62,155 Annapurna / UA
2021 7 Passing $15,000,000 Netflix
2021 8 Superior $564 Factory 25
2021 9 Together Together $1,436,324 Bleecker St
2021 10 Wild Indian $121,010 Vertical
2021 subtotal $43,675,903
2022 1 Alice $373,043 Roadside / Vertical
2022 2 Breaking $2,806,359 Bleecker
2022 3 Cha Cha Real Smooth $15,000,000 Apple
2022 4 Dual $299,698 RLJE
2022 5 Emergency N/A Amazon
2022 6 I’ll Be Your Mirror N/A
2022 7 Master N/A Amazon
2022 8 Nanny $7,000,000 Amazon / Blumhouse
2022 9 Palm Trees and Power Lines $1,239 MUBI
2022 10 Watcher $3,621,656 IFC / Shudder
2022 subtotal $29,101,995
2023 1 The Accidental Getaway Driver $63,831 Utopia
2023 2 All Dirt Roads Taste of Salt $52,084 A24
2023 3 Fair Play $20,000,000 Netflix
2023 4 Fancy Dance $17,204 Apple
2023 5 Magazine Dreams $1,494,950 Searchlight → Briarcliff
2023 6 Mutt $10,913 Strand
2023 7 The Persian Version $607,092 SPC
2023 8 Shortcomings $675,257 SPC
2023 9 Sometimes I Think About Dying $563,487 Oscilloscope
2023 10 The Starling Girl $161,290 Bleecker St
2023 11 Theater Camp $4,781,316 Searchlight
2023 12 A Thousand and One $4,463,582 Focus
2023 subtotal $32,891,006
2024 1 Between the Temples $2,120,748 SPC
2024 2 Didi (弟弟) $5,156,116 Focus
2024 3 Exhibiting Forgiveness $506,520 Roadside
2024 4 Good One $645,922 Metrograph
2024 5 In the Summers $90,443 ltd
2024 6 Love Me $350,841 Bleecker St
2024 7 Ponyboi $29,694 ltd
2024 8 A Real Pain $24,856,027 Searchlight
2024 9 Stress Positions $105,995 Neon
2024 10 Suncoast N/A Searchlight / Hulu
2024 subtotal $33,862,306
2025 1 Atropia $64,144 Vertical
2025 2 Bubble & Squeak N/A
2025 3 Bunnylovr N/A Utopia
2025 4 Love, Brooklyn $254,844 Greenwich
2025 5 Omaha $97,513 Greenwich
2025 6 Plainclothes $301,758 Magnolia
2025 7 Ricky $41,513
2025 8 Sorry, Baby $3,300,000 A24
2025 9 Sunfish (& Other Stories on Green Lake) N/A
2025 10 Twinless $1,407,929 Roadside / Lionsgate / Sony
2025 subtotal $5,467,701
u/NGGKroze — 24 days ago
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After first pre-Sales data for Supergirl, here's quickly put together info for OW, OS, Global + Comparisons. Even with good legs and DOM/OS Split, we are looking at less than 350M final and results of 220-260M in the middle. Competition and World Cup will affect it heavily.

You can ignore lowest end results as there are the more for fun and just as some non-sense base, albeit weak reception paired with lower opening could indeed lead to sub 100M final, but that is worst case.

OS numbers also might seem a bit ridiculous with that 65/35 split, but Superman was close to 60/40 split and we will have on the way heavy OS contenders in the face of Toy Story, Minions and later Odessey + a whole month of the biggest sports even on the planet, so Supergirl doing even more heavily domestically than Superman is not out of reason - I guess LATAM will be biggest market for Supergirl, while Europe will underperform and Asia might be non-existant. Who knows... Lobo walkups might happen.

A comparison not included here, but could be relevant is Mando - 98M 4-Day weekend and legs so weak it will finish below 200M (might not reach 190M as well)

At the end, a fresh like reception paired with summer legs benefits might not be enough to overcome general low interest in non-event CBM movies, plus heavy competition and World Cup.

u/NGGKroze — 24 days ago