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Who is your favorite character from an obscure/niche media?
Favorite character with time powers?
Mine is Steven from Time Fcuk and Mewgenics.
Favorite character/group that represents this meme?
What asexual YouTubers do you know of?
Mine is Jaiden Animations, Shgurr, The Mysterious Mr. Enter, and Schaffrillas Productions. I don't know if there's anyone else, though.
EDIT: Don't forget about Cartoonshi and Just Stop, too.
What WWII or Cold War-era weapons do you think would fit perfectly in Metro?
(Note: It doesn't have to originate from Russia or the Soviet Union.)
The Boys can't even decide what the supes are supposed to represent
In Garth Ennis’ original The Boys comics, the superheroes were designed as a layered satire targeting three interconnected systems: Hollywood celebrity culture, the comic book industry (superheroes as a genre), and the military-industrial complex. The whole system is surprisingly tight once you look at how the pieces fit together rather than existing as isolated ideas.
On the celebrity side, the supes are public idols with spotless branding hiding mountains of corruption beneath the surface. As a commentary on the comic industry, their history mirrors creative stagnation: things begin strong under the guidance of a visionary figure, but once that figure disappears, innovation dies with him. What remains is an endless conveyor belt of shallow, derivative knockoffs built from the same DNA. Then there’s the military-industrial angle, where superheroes are essentially defective products sold to governments by a corporation more interested in contracts and profit than quality control. Bing, bang, boom. Those are superheroes in The Boys and what they were meant to represent. Clean, simple, easy to understand.
And you know what else? It's so thoughtfully constructed. They don't just work as separate, individual themes. What makes the allegory very effective is that they are tailor-made to support each other within the story.
The supes being out-of-touch, pampered celebrities exist because these “heroes” are essentially barely functional, low-quality WMDs behaving like overgrown, emotionally stunted children, wrapped in marketing campaigns. That way, the public adores them rather than fearing or scrutinizing them. Their sheer lack of competence and poor quality make sense since Vought prioritizes mass production and damage control over genuine improvement of the formula. And Vought continues to do this because defense contractors can often get away with delivering cheap, disposable, poorly designed, and fundamentally flawed products while still succeeding financially, so long as the products they're manufacturing are technically functional and the system continues paying for them.
Instead of asking "What if superheroes were real?", I think it's way more accurate to say that the comic's main argument is "What if a multibillion-dollar defense contractor monopolized the superhero industry and prioritized stock prices over public safety?" Every concept feeds into the next, creating a coherent satirical framework like gears in a machine or bricks in a wall rather than a pile of disconnected ideas. It’s cynical, but structurally solid in foundation.
Naturally, the showrunners looked at that allegory and asked, "Hey, why don't we do it without any gears? Or bricks?" And this is one of those things where I can't even say season 1 did it better, since from day one, most of it's NOT even there. Like, barring a few exceptions, we only follow The Seven, which eliminates much of the very concept that the supes are mass-produced corporate knockoffs. Vought’s background as a manufacturer of defective military products barely matters anymore, and the military-industrial complex critique is reduced to background noise at best. What survives is primarily the satirical commentary on modern Hollywood celebrities and the entertainment industry, especially with the latter replacing the critique of the comic book industry. Both of these aspects still work to some extent, but compared to the comics, it’s far less nuanced and cohesive.
Somehow, it only gets worse from here once they start trying to do other stuff with them. For instance, Season 2 introduces Stormfront, a character whose whole thing is to shift this allegory into a satire of Alt-Right social media influencers and far-right politicians. On paper, the idea is obvious enough: a literal Nazi manipulating fear and outrage through media spectacle. But the problem is that this clashes with the foundation that the setting originally established.
What I mean by this is that, realistically speaking, superheroes in The Boys universe are supposed to function like hyper-managed celebrities with tightly controlled public images. Especially in the show, where Vought resembles a grotesque fusion of Disney and Amazon, letting one of their flagship heroes openly flirt with hateful fascist rhetoric feels absurd. Like, can you imagine what it would be like if at Disneyland, Donald Duck started wearing an SS uniform, reading quotes from Mein Kampf, and inciting hate groups everywhere he goes? That's the equivalent here. Such a thing would absolutely never happen in the comics because, like most celebrities, supes HAVE to stay under a strict corporate leash precisely because their value depends on maintaining a carefully sanitized PR.
They’re assets, mascots, and brand icons, not loose cannons allowed to torch the company’s reputation by doing things that go completely against their brand image.
The same issue pops up when the show tries to use supes as a metaphor for the violent, racist, and otherwise corrupt law enforcement. Sure, the connection is understandable at a surface level: supes are supposed to protect people, cops are supposed to protect people, and abuse of power exists in both cases. But it doesn't work in execution because the show's allegories are too direct and obvious. Instead of using thematic parallels, the supes literally begin acting as stand-ins for crooked cops — profiling civilians, brutalizing minorities at traffic stops, and being intentionally reckless or violent in black neighborhoods, operating in ways directly modeled after real-world police misconduct. This is just dumb conceptually since supes are NOT meant to be police officers, and they shouldn't be making arrests, let alone for carjacking.
You ever notice one thing that's missing from almost any issue in the comic? Supes performing actual rescues or street-level crime fighting. That absence is intentional. Vought doesn't want these people improvising in real emergencies because they aren't meant to do any real saving that isn't heavily planned. You know, for the sake of cultivating their image. I mean, where's the sense in letting their supes do ground-level cop work? You're just asking for shit to go horribly wrong and damage your brand. It's also just a waste of money and time for the supes, which is why you never see them doing it.
What you do see, however, are the supes spending way more time on publicity events, conventions, movie premieres, etc, rather than stopping crimes. Places that celebrities go to promote something because, in essence, supes are mascots. They’re celebrities first and foremost, not actual superheroes like you see in Marvel and DC. So, they're not going to do anything actually heroic. That's what the comics are for, which Vought manufactures as real, to give off these heroic images without the risk of the real supes messing it up since they're total amateurs, not actual emergency services. It's just common sense.
Ironically, the show itself seemed to understand this early on. That's why they explain as much in Season 1, where Annie is forced to participate in a staged rescue mission. When she actually saves someone, however, she gets reprimanded because there are so many complications in a real rescue that they have to be planned for insurance reasons. They literally explained how the idea worked. So, they're just undoing that for a hamfisted metaphor they should know doesn't work. It's frustrating.
Although I guess it's kinda just part of how the show handles satire, especially when later seasons start discarding those rules to force broader political metaphors into place. Instead of building satire from the world’s foundations outward, the show often bends the setting to fit whatever commentary it wants at the moment. The result feels less like a meticulously written allegory and more like a billboard covered in disconnected slogans that are tangentially related to one another.
EDIT: And yes, before you grab your torches and pitchforks, I've taken most of this from Just Stop's "The Boys Is A TERRIBLE Adaptation (No, Seriously)" video essay. By crediting Braxton by name, I guess that clears everything up, heh…
The Boys has become increasingly over-reliant on excessive sex and violence that it stopped being enjoyable
Now, don’t get me wrong, I am not averse to excessive violence and over-the-top gore. That's just my jam. I went to see Terrifier 2 on opening day in theaters. A good special effect or creative kill is something I can appreciate any day of the week, and I can equally appreciate how punks use striking visuals or provocative lyrics to convey the importance of what they're trying to get across.
However, I feel like the way The Boys uses violence has gotten way less purposeful and way more over-the-top purely so it can lean into this identity of being punk rock and edgy. Like, when you look at the start of The Boys, the violence is still incredibly graphic. One of the first things we see is a girl being turned to jelly by A-Train running through her, and another scene has a female supe crushing someone’s entire face with her bare ass. But still, at least during the first season, for the most part, it felt like that violence was there for a reason, to help underscore the grittier, more realistic approach The Boys takes to superheroes as a concept compared to something cleaner like DC or Marvel, where everything's way more polished and safe. It made a statement about the world these characters live in. And while it could get extreme for the sake of jokes, it never felt so over-the-top that it eventually became annoying.
They did ride the line a couple of times, mostly during the season 3 premiere, where a guy shrinks down, climbs inside another man's dick, sneezes, and then grows back from him, cutting the guy in half. But man, somehow Seasons 4 and 5 take it to another level, and it's way more in-your-face about it than the earlier seasons ever were. I mean, the shrinking guy was one thing. At least it was a really creative idea that, in a way, somewhat riffed on a popular internet meme about Ant-Man and Thanos from that time.
But then, starting in season 4, we got stuff like a guy who can clone himself, making a Human Centipede to eat his own ass, and then pulling out a hair; Sister Sage having characters give her a lobotomy so she can get dumb and want to bang them; Webweaver being unable to control his white sticky discharge; and an entire full episode of Hughie getting kinkily tortured and sexually assaulted in Tek Knight’s BDSM sex dungeon, where says he's going to carve holes in him so he can then fuck those holes until he dies, with this entire moment being played almost completely for laughs (WTF Eric Kripke?).
Even as an asexual dude myself, I find it extremely exhausting how all of the characters now make some sexual reference every other sentence, or scenarios are now sexually based. For example, the latest episode has this scene where Dogknott and Sheline are sniffing each other's assholes like cats and dogs, which just had me rolling my eyes. Three seasons ago, it would have been funny, but now it’s just another unfunny gross-out moment, rinse and repeat. It’s like the writers don’t know how to write good comedy or character unless it’s based on someone’s sexual fetish. Like, we already have a supe who literally eats dirt from the ground and shits it out of his asshole, a supe who can elongate and wield the scrotum of his testicles as if it was a chained flail (as if Love Sausage wasn't enough for the showrunners), a basement-dwelling neckbeard version of The Thing who has grown larger due to his lava cum forming igneous rock from jacking off to videos of volcanic eruptions, and Mr. Marathon (who is essentially the supe version of P. Diddy) accidentally running through five fuckin' Hollywood celebrities while trying to pursue Soldier Boy in his mansion, causing all of them to explode into a bloody shower of gore and viscera. Oh, and don't forget that one scene where Annie and Kimiko come across the Homelander plushie that Terror humps, gagging at how much of it is encrusted with dog semen, too. And no, I'm not making all of this shit up. Everything I brought up was literally in the show itself.
Not to mention, most of the dialogue in Season 5 is just downright fucking abysmal, filled with sex and fetish jokes. And none of them are even funny in the slightest (seriously, did Eric Kripke hire Vivziepop to do most of the writing?). Like, Kimiko made some long-winded joke about how they're as fucked as a porn star, blah blah blah. Human beings don't talk like this during times of catastrophe. And the less said about Soldier Boy, the better.
"The last time I let a black woman boss me around was Nell Carter, with a Cock Ring and a Tub of Crisco."
"You Semen Swilling Butt Pirate"
"Triple Crown Cock Jockey"
"Shitting on Sherry Lewis's Tits"
"And I've had a threesome with Gary Busey..."
The fact that we tolerate this is a testament to how damn charming Jensen is because those lines are atrocious. Who finds that funny? 12-year-olds who watch Sausage Party?
Like, there's not really anything clever about these moments. They're just there so the showrunners can pat themselves on the back and say, "We're so goddamn EDGY, bro!" And that's precisely what social media did to hype up each new episode as they come out. It was almost nothing but “Whoa, bro, this is the most graphic and messed-up shit you've ever seen. I can't believe Amazon let us get away with it!”
But you know who could believe it? Me. I could. I can believe they were doing something raunchy and violent every single time they said they would. From the beginning, that was what the show was built on. Up until Seasons 4 and 5, they never made it the near-sole focus of the marketing. I think the thing that took them over the edge with this was Herogasm, seeing as the entire point of that episode was that, like the infamous event of the same name from the comics, everything was explicitly more graphic and sexual than usual for the sake of having a fun time, and it was pretty fun for that one time when it was an event. But I guess the showrunners took the wrong idea from it, with how successful its marketing was, saying this was the grossest thing we've ever done and thought the only way to recreate that kind of buzz was by continuously one-upping themselves.
Oh, you want something edgy? You want something disgusting? Well, gather around, motherfuckers, look at this. Ain't that gross? Ain't that indecent? Is this going against the current culture? But again, no, you're not because you've already deliberately conditioned your current audience to be used to this. Anyone who was genuinely appalled by what you're doing wouldn't have made it all the way to season 4 to watch this happen in the first place.
When Damien Leone made Terrifier 3, he didn't feel the need to go on PressJunk and say how intense the kills will be. That was already implied. And speaking of Terrifier 3, that movie made about $90 million domestically last year, which I'd say is a pretty clear testament that most people worldwide aren't even turned off by violence in the first place. That's why it's one of the top streaming shows on Amazon alongside Invincible, another superhero show with intense gore. People absolutely love that shit. Hell, at this point, having a bunch of over-the-top violence isn't a repellent against normies (God, I fucking hate the term normies) at all. It's a selling point. Literally, they use it to market the series now.
And hey, if that's what they want to do, then more power to them. But don't act like it's some brave and revolutionary thing that you're rebelling against the system with this one, man.