




First Third Gen and .40: S&W Model 411
So my most recent gun purchase is this S&W Model 411 with 3 10-round magazines for $276.99 plus my FFL's $40 transfer fee. .40 S&W has gotten cheaper lately due to a lack of interest in the caliber, so I wanted something chambered in this powerful yet often overlooked chambering. I got 500 rounds of PMC Bronze 180 grain FMJ and 100 rounds of Speer Gold Dot 165 JHP for fairly cheap, and I can't wait to get to the range with it. Now for having an extremely thick grip, it feels surprisingly good in my small hands. Maybe that's because the grip is rubber and fingers sink in a bit, but it doesn't feel awkwardly oversized like a 1911 does. The only real criticism is the mag release being in a spot that forces me to break my grip a bit, and this isn't helped by the button being so small compared to most modern handguns. I don't know year mine is from, but I'm guessing it was either made during the Assault Weapons Ban or came from a 10-round compliant state before it ended up in Texas and then shipped here to Michigan, since none of the magazines are 11-round like the 411 originally had. Unfortunately they are so stiffly sprung that they function more like 9+1 than 10+1, as a fully loaded mag will not fit with the slide forward. My CSX E-Series had the same problem with its 10-round mags (it came from NJ, so unfortunately that was all it had originally) but later I purchased 12- and 15- round mags that didn't have this problem, so I wonder if an 11-round 411/4006 mag will fix this issue as well. I'll definitely have to lube the slide/frame rails with some white lithium grease, as this gun came bone dry. Aside from some fouling, there is absolutely zero residue of any kind, which is shockingly rare with a used gun. Normally there's at least some remnants of oil or grease, but not on this gun. Normally I use Rem Oil or Ballistol to lubricate a pistol, but I read that oil doesn't work very well due to the alloy frame, which is odd because my Bersa Thunder 380 and Taurus PT 99 AF both use alloy frames and seem to run just fine with oiled slide/frame rails. What does everyone here think? Is this a good introduction to 3rd gens as a whole or do the cost savings negatively impact it compared to something like the 4006, 3906, or 5906? The sights are also Tru-Dot, were they OEM or did someone upgrade it in the past?
I intend to use it as a heavy clothes carry with a crossdraw leather holster, so I think the alloy frame will make it better suited to that purpose. I have a CZ-75B I carry strong side outside the waistband, and while the pistol is designed in a way that doesn't jab or otherwise cause discomfort, the loaded weight of 16+1 124 grain 9mm Federal HST plus the all-steel construction make it feel like a lead weight against my waist. 10+1 (or 9+1, as the magazines allow) of 165 grain Speer Gold Dot .40 in an alloy frame is probably going to be far more tolerable, and I'm giving crossdraw a try because I heard it is more comfy when sitting down, and I also find the drawstroke far more natural to do quickly. I also didn't want something like a Shield or even the full size M&P with a super light polymer frame because I heard .40 produces a lot of recoil (thankfully nowhere near as much as .357 Magnum because I'm still struggling to control that), so alloy seems like a good compromise vs super light polymer what I'm sure is an absolute brick in the all stainless steel 4006.