u/Natsu_Kindaichi

I noticed a while back that while i have read a decent amount of books on this, there's none that went into detail on how I should cast a spell, so I'm looking for a detailed book that breaks down necessities and optional things that will help. From different books and sources so far, I have gathered

Putting material in an altar to get it blessed

Cleansing spells to make sure no low-level entity and such weaken the work

Came up with the idea of asking the deity I worship and local spirits I give offerings to supervise and help with the spell getting desired results.

Entering a Relaxed or Altered State of Mind

Filling myself with energy through Breath Work

Using a liminal space like a crossroads, door entrance, etc

Visualization while charging the material

For The Spell, using a link if possible, being specific in your request of wants and what you don't want.

I asked this on the gateway tapes subreddit too but too many non occultists commented. I'm wondering if you found any help in your work or progress through the tapes, maybe helped see the spirits or deities being worked with? Or sped up your spellwork? Or idk something you learned that became part of your occult practices like using REBAL when evoking spirits.

I'm wondering if any occultist or witch found any help in their work or progress through the tapes, maybe helped see the spirits or deities being worked with? Or sped up your spellwork? Or idk something you learned that became part of your occult practices like using REBAL when evoking spirits.

From what I have read, demons are nothing scary or malicious by nature, as some believe. Still, a contradiction I have seen is that after K&C, if you don't summon and bind the demons your life gets worse, so are demons by default okay with you, but something in K&C deeply offends them?

I was reading Magickal Servitors by Damon Brand, and he says to treat it with respect and that if you don't know what's needed to get your task done, you should let it do as it's wise enough to know how to get it done. What I have difficulty with is, if it's a wise and sentient being, why would I want to kill it? How can it even die?

My background is from Seth (Jane Roberts), to me, death is simply transforming from one form to another. So it seems the servitor would actually be freed to do whatever it wants, staying a part of your entity/oversoul.

Still, it seems the view is that it just dies and returns to the nothingness of the cosmos, which, ngl, feels like a terrifying fate for it, so my question is, assuming it returns to the cosmos, am I able to tell the servitor that on its time of "death" instead it's free to do whatever it wants and no longer has to serve me?

I am going to, of course, assume it loves the task it's made for, and that should make sure it doesn't go rogue or anything, while it does serve me.

If anyone has tried this and can tell if it worked/made a difference, I would appreciate it.

Say there's a deity you have been worshipping and giving offerings to for a decent while, now you need something, with other spirits one can evoke, but it seems only invocation is possible for deities, so what should one do? Praying to them according to what's available, like orphic hymns, but modifying them to fit the desire? Or petitions after giving an offering and invoking them. Is there something else? What do you prefer?

I will be making"The wheel of hekate" talisman Jason Miller teaches in his book, he says to charge the talisman with an invocation he givs while looking at it through the Triangle of Manifestatio n, issue is that the invocation is rather long and i will only be using it once so i don't see the point in spending days trying to perfectly memorize it, but if i look at my phone to read it i will no longer be looking through the traingle and might have to break it to scroll up too.

So I have heard the concept that if you share your personal spiritual experiences like symbolic dreams, actually seeing spirits or something else to someone the experience stops.

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I had even heard that if your third eye becomes active and you start seeing spirits you shouldn't say anything about it for 6 months, and then it will become permanent so you can discuss it if you want.

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Is there any validity to this?

So I have been doing Io Heka Io Ho for a month now, usually mentally and not strictly. However, I started strictly doing daily offerings, prayers, and chants for a week now.

Today, as I was chanting and then stopped to observe and reach out with my senses, I felt pressure on my head. I usually visualize Hekate's hand on my head like a blessing whenever I feel something like that, but this time it was constant.

I also felt my body sort of moving in circles like a pendulum. Now, this isn't my first time feeling this, as I've felt the inclination to move like this or side-to-side whenever I did mantra chanting in the past for other deities.

Those, however, required my assistance in doing them, and I considered distraction. This one, I simply let go of resistance in my body, and the body itself went round and round like a pendulum, no effort was required on my part. It increased in intensity slowly at times, sometimes slowed down, and sometimes went left and right too.

My question is, am I overthinking something that just naturally happens, or is there more to this? Any insight is appreciated.

Edit: Fixed Typos

In the book, he shares 7 seals he developed that channel the forces of the powers invoked directly, overcoming retrogrades, eclipses, and other unfortunate planetary alignments. This tends to be the main issue behind planetary election for talismans. My questions are:

1 - How did you make use of them? Did you try a talisman?
2 - If you did make the talisman and it was on a good alignment, how were the results compared to the traditional seals of the planet?
3 - If on a bad alignment, did it you feel it worked regardless, unaffected by the afflictions as claimed?

I was going through it as I like his other books, and I was surprised when he mentioned he developed new 7 seals for the planets, saying that when developing it, "We wanted these seals not only to channel the forces of the powers invoked, but we wanted them to be able to overcome retrogrades, eclipses, and other unfortunate planetary alignments." Not having to worry about malifics in your talisman would be a great boon, so my question is, has anyone read the book and tried it? How were your results?

So this might not be the appropriate place since it's more of an occult question, but still, I wanted to ask if anyone knows, as a rough timeline, if I pray daily to Hekate asking for help with developing myself and give her offerings of incense and water, when would you estimate the relationship is deep enough that I can make a magic circle and envoke a spirit in her name?

Edit: I'm asking because of some things Jason Miller says in consorting with spirits, which give me the impression you need to build a relationship first

"This really is a place where relationship matters. It may be your first time encountering the spirit you are conjuring, but it should not be your first time encountering the powers you are conjuring them by."

"If you aren't familiar enough with Hekate to construct another evocation, then chances are you shouldn't be forcefully conjuring spirits by her power." (tho this is in context of forcing a spirit which i don't want to anyways.)

So I'm a beginner to all things occult and was interested in the Holy Guardian Angel after I read Jason Miller's 'Consortion with Spirits' because it can apparently help greatly in contacting gods and spirits as a sort of middleman." I have also read that HGA is your true, whole self (oversoul/higher self) and that the process is merging. This is also very appealing, as I often seek to know my true nature, and secondhand info, rather than experience, is never enough.

Still, from the warnings I have read, including Jason's, not only is this a long process that can take your whole day for several months, which I really don't think I can manage unless I leave society and become a hermit, but also, to do it early in life when you have not much to lose, my life frankly has been one struggle after another for many years now (I will be damned if my journey to knowledge makes my family's health worse).

Objectively, I am at rock bottom, with no real career to lose, not in a relationship, financially not well, and health-wise recovering, so I don't have much to lose, but what I do have are things I value immensely, so while I might not go from 100 to 0, 2 to 0 is scary as well. I got into magick to improve my life and not to make things worse, so this is the main reason I am discouraged by it.

I have heard some believe that without K&C, you can only do surface-level magick, which is discouraging on its own, considering my issues.

All in all, I just want to know if

1- Is it as mandatory for magick as they say?

2 - Regardless of whether it's mandatory, is there a way to achieve it in less time each day (even if it takes longer overall) and to avoid life worsening?

Open to reading any books on trusted sources on this, though would appreciate it if it's not a general recommendation and something the person recommending has found to be reliable from personal experience.

I was reading the "Protection & Reversal Magick" book and noticed that the offering prayer in this is different from the one in "Consorting with Spirits", it's much more specific with the kind of spirit it refers to, like the fey, dryad, salamander, incubi, any spectre of ill will, etc., and I have been considering merging them.

Since consorting with spirits came later, I'm wondering whether there was a reason to stop doing so, maybe calling spirits with ill and such had unexpected side effects? The newer version is more of a customizable template, so I guess it could simply be preferred for its flexibility. Any insight is welcome.

I was reading the "Protection & Reversal Magick" book and noticed that the offering prayer in this is different from the one in "Consorting with Spirits", it's much more specific with the kind of spirit it refers to, like the fey, dryad, salamander, incubi, any spectre of ill will, etc., and I have been considering merging them.

Since consorting with spirits came later, I'm wondering whether there was a reason to stop doing so, maybe calling spirits with ill and such had unexpected side effects? The newer version is more of a customizable template, so I guess it could simply be preferred for its flexibility. Any insight is welcome.

I'm wondering if there's a website dedicated to annual election timings for each planet listed for ease of use?

I have been trying to find a decent one for a wealth and fame talisman, but it seems like this whole year, something major hasn't aligned well. If someone is aware of a decent time, I would appreciate it.