im going to use less popular characters in this series as Power scaling now is just top 12 so I thought less do Hand to Hand

Sukuna supposedly got a new body, new heart new lungs new arms BUT NOT A NEW BRAIN🧠? WHY?

from the time this Chapter came out I was like "HOW THE FUCK THEY GONNA BEAT THAT THING, unless Gege nerfs Sukuna" which he did for the plot and this isn't good nerfing it's terrible in execution cause there's no reason for it

and don't tell me some dumb shit like "UV did Brain Damage to him" yeah and 🟣 burned Sukuna's Flesh off + his arm and foot yet True Form healed everything

it even gave Sukuna a new heart Lungs liver and other shit but not a new Brain? that's BS to me

I always hated this and will probably continue to hate it and you know what Gege could've easily gave him it then have someone just affect his Brain Again then Take it away like Kashimo with some weird Electric Storm shit or Soul Punches taking away his Domain

I get Gege didn't want to downplay all of Gojo's Efforts but bruh Gojo did plenty

Taking away Ten Shadows, Nerfing WCS, Nerfing Sukuna's RCT and CE pool and making Sukuna exhausted, if you really wanted Gojo to do the most you should've had Sukuna use True Form and still be put near death by Gojo r simply not bring it up as a heal cause the whole healing aspect was for Shock Value

by having every bit of Damage be because of Gojo you kinda made the cast seem like they did nothing throughout Shinjuku which is why I think the Sukuna Cycle was born if any of you were around for that, I dunno I just don't like it

cause believe it or not but Sukuna is one of my favorite characters and I don't like how they nerfed him for the story to progress after Gojo died, same with Gojo and how he died

it seems Gege can't write "Strongest Characters well" atleast in terms of killing them

a guy asked me my take on Yuji and how strong I think he is so this is just my view on him you can disagree if you want it's all discourse at the end of the day and imma be honest.

For starters imma get it out of the way now, yes I do believe he could beat Gojo and Sukuna in a 2V1 and that might sound insane but Yuji trained for SXITY YEARS while landing Dozens to hundreds of Black Flashes

on top of that he has Live Footage of peak Sorcery which is basically Gojo vs Sukuna heck he could do CT Reset most likely

to me he likely surpassed them in his early 30's

Yuji is basically Gojo and Sukuna if you give them another 30 years of intense training and Black Flashes which sounds insane and honestly Gojo and Sukuna would no diff themselves 30 years ago so imagine Yuji

as for his kit I think he has Domain Amplification as a way to basically reduce Damage and I'm sure Higaruma wouldn't mind teaching him

Top 1 Refinement most likely, the fact he mastered Black Flash tells me he understands CE the best out of anyone in the verse which is insane since not even Gojo could do that

Flame Arrow and Furnace, I'd think with the footage from Shibuya and Shinjuku he'd figure it out eventually especially since Black Flash enhances you so much it makes you unlock new abilities

like Gojo's new RCT Circuit in 235 and Sukuna's Domain in 258 that was mainly Black Flash awakening them

however I don't think he has WCS or Open Domain(if that happens it wouldn't surprise me but still) these things are simply to far out of reach due to how uncommon they were and how hard they were to get and since Yuji has no basis I don't think he has it

The only one I can't make an argument for is Awakened Dabura and imma be straight up in actual debate setting I can NEVER WITH THE CURRENT INFO WE GOT prove Yuji beats him

Dabura just has to many good feats to prove otherwise

the only argument I could probably make is "Do you think Gege would draw Yuji getting perception blitz Dabura"? which ain't enough

Either way I havehi Top 1, I think the Story pretty heavily implies that but I'm just sad we didn't get enough to make it more clear

Gojo not being an Absolute Zoner and RAINING down 🟣 Inside Malevolent Shrine well always be funny to me because it's Gege nerfing Gojo for the Plot

since his kit is the perfect "you can't hit this" on top of making him Untouchable you gave him TELEPORTATION? not just like a couple of Feet teleportation, HUNDREDS OF MILES teleportation

He Teleports in the fight but he seemingly never uses it or abuses it

plot wise he can't because he'd just beat Sukuna but with no story in the way does that mean in versus Matchups he just wins?

He Teleported 10 miles Casually and I'm LOW-BALLING

Sukuna legit uses Dismantle and Cleave while inside of Jacob's Ladder as the Narration says and even goes on to say he can use WCS in the Light, makes me think Jacob's Ladder isn't that good

like guys this shit is ass it can't no diff anyone heck you could use your CT in it if you have enough Output even Sukuna says it's dependant on Output

Which is something I don't see much people mention about Jacob's Ladder it's basically like any type of Nullification type move in JJK but it has conditions to it

for example Mahito can seemingly touch you once and reshape your soul but if you're strong enough you can straight up resist that hax move which should be a one shot

Domain Amplification negates Curse Techniques but In practice if you have enough Output you can overpower it

Basically in the verse of JJK even if you have a CT that can Nullify something you'd still need to have the Output to actually negate the Ability

that's why Angel was never seen as a threat bigger than Hakari or Maki or Yuji or even fucking Kusakabe, because the Technique depends on Output if you have higher or comparable Output you can basically fight and use your CT inside there

Saw a post on this idea and thought I'd give my explaination on it as the guy didn't explain it to well and people kinda just bullied him so I thought I'd atleast defend the idea the best way I can

I also don't care if you think if Yuta has it not but acting like Yuta does have it with Confidence and shitting on anyone that doesn't believe it is where I have the problem

personally I wouldn't be surprised if he had it but I just don't think there's enough evidence for it anyway

For 1 I think Yuta got it from just being in Gojo's Body due to Muscle Memory as the story has stated, when you use Sorcery in Someone's Body it becomes Muscle Memory aka easy to do, so Gojo using Basketball Domain back to back to back to back means his Body had that down pat

For 2: Everyone including Yuta was shocked by Basketball Domain's Existence, this would make no sense if Yuta already pulled off Basketball Domain in his own body or Gojo's Body meaning he never did Basketball Domain during the Switch Training

which means against Sukuna that was his first time trying Basketball Domain

For 3: Unless Yuta suddenly got Gojo and Sukuna level Talent to see something once and be able to do it on command even though Yuta didn't know Basketball Domain existed 2 hours ago and can't match Gojo or Sukuna in anything I just don't believe there's enough evidence to confidently say he has it

For 4: no I don't believe he got it after Shinjuku infact to me I think both Yuta and Maki retired after Shinjuku and just left everything up to Yuji Megumi and Nobara Angel Todo and the newbies

as I don't think Yuta would want to still fight, he never really like to and since the big threats are gone there's no reason to keep fighting when there's others more willing to help and people who want to keep going, especially since him and Maki Obviously like each other and want to be together

Plus given them being grand parents I think they just settled down and chilled in they're early 20's which means at best they probably were active for 2 years and I doubt either Yuta or Maki would want to fight Curses while they have a child to raise especially when it's just weaklings now

Also Narratively I don't think it'd make sense for Yuta to be able to pull off Basketball Domain as he can't be Gojo he can't do 🔵 like Gojo he can't do 🔴 like Gojo or 🟣 and especially Basketball Domain, I think thematically everything he got in Gojo's Body was simply him trying to copy Gojo but failing at it due to not being him

With this post I'm just saying that Saying Yuta has Basketball Domain isn't a set in Stone thing

it's possible at best and debatable at worse

Reddit put my shit out of order AGAIN and since some of these involve the marks which is a 10X boost I'll use it for the scale

anyway my ranking goes

Gyomei: pretty obvious he's the strongest Hashira

Sanemi: scales above Marked Muichiro In strength and speed which is interesting since Muichiro would get more gains in training than Sanemi would this means there's a consistent 10X or more Gap between them

Giyu: is pretty much is in a similar boat as Sanemi and scales above Marked Tanjiro who should be relative with Marked Muichiro

Rengoku: fought upper 3 and did well even on his deathbed

Obanai: while feats are weird we know he scales above Marked Mitsuri even after she trains so he's up there

Mitsuri: Fought pretty and was styling on upper 4 and never really got hit unless she was off guard

Shinobu: she didn't really train so her feats against Douma is game and sure she got blitzed and Douma was holding back but when she used her last form she actually did some good moves

Tengen: even though he lost to Upper Six he still held on his own

Muichiro: his performance just wasn't good against upper 5 he kinda did nothing to him in his weakest form which makes me think he wouldn't do so hot against Upper 6

I change my mind alot on the list so I dunno

there was this post from a guy called Dark something basically explaining how Gojo could beat True Form and why True Form has worse odds than Meguna

his argumentation was decent but it wasn't really that convincing to me personally, I lost the post and now I can't find it

but basically I think a better way to argue it is by saying DA has Diminishing returns

like there's this statement by Gege saying if DA can't negate a Technique it just rapidly weakens and you get hit by the Technique anyway

I also found Lightning Translation of Sukuna's statement and it says Sukuna can't negate 🔵 and 🔴 as a whole but he can only negate infinity ⚪

that means DA 🟢is very unremarkable against 🔵 and 🔴 or dam near useless using Gege statement

also in Clash 1 Gojo fights and hits Domain Buffed Sukuna with a 🔴 to the face

this is interesting because a Domain buffs it's opponent by 20% and nerfs they're Opponent by likely the similar amount

so Gojo's 🔴 and his Blue Movement was nerfed by 20% ontop of nerfed Gojo using it but yet it still did that amount of Damage to a Sukuna 20% stronger than normal

what's worse is that Domain's grant a bigger buff than DA🟢 ever would due to being the Peak of Sorcery

IE DA🟢 being generous is less than a 20% debuff to Gojo's moves which means the DA damage reduction is negligible to Gojo's arsenal

IE DA is likely lowering Gojo's attacks by 10% or less going by the Diminishing returns statement and Domain buff which means Sukuna is bound to be caught in UV regardless since DA Damage Reduction isn't enough to lower the damage to a meaningful degree

so if Gojo's attacks are doing 100 damage, Sukuna is getting hit with 90 damage or more with DA on which isn't enough to Survive

which is why Sukuna uses Ten Shadows, Domain Amplification is horrid to use against Gojo since his attacks do to much damage to quickly so he ends up being caught in UV regardless

here's the conditions

Dabura basically has everything, Domain, RCT his CT and Reversal, Simple Domain, Hollow Wicker Basket and Domain Amplification

Gojo has everything, Basketball Domain 🔵🔴🟣 etc but this is Black Flashed Amped Gojo in 235 so a Gojo 40% stronger than normal so everything he has is basically boosted 40% over

Sukuna has True Form Ten Shadows and WCS but the one where he needs to chant it and basically everything else Open Domain DA Etc

they all have info on each other by the way

now me personally it's hard to say who'd win and d I doubt it'd be Sukuna or he'd be least likely to win

2 out of the 3 is jumping one of them and it basically comes down to, who will Dabura jump with, I lean towards him jumping Sukuna with Gojo even if he doesn't like it

Dabura strikes me as an ok guy so meeting Sukuna whose basically a demon he would want to kill him especially since he has Mahoraga and WCS

now as to how the fight goes I don't think either Gojo or Sukuna would start off with they're Domain as a Triple Domain Clash is very complex if anything Sukuna would opt to use HWB and Gojo would use Simple Domain

Dabura might start off with a Domain but at that point it's to risky for Dabura due to many unknowns on his part so if anything neither party would pop ult just yet

I could also see him learning DA, HWB and Simple Domain from Gojo and Sukuna so he has those now

me personally I think the one likely to win is Gojo, It's hard to see a world where Gojo and Dabura don't jump Sukuna or atleast both attack him while trying to attack each other, Sukuna is not surviving that onslaught then it's Gojo vs Dabura and honestly Gojo wins due to Hollow Nuke and

here's the conditions

Dabura basically has everything, Domain, RCT his CT and Reversal, Simple Domain, Hollow Wicker Basket and Domain Amplification

Gojo has everything, Basketball Domain 🔵🔴🟣 etc but this is Black Flashed Amped Gojo in 235 so a Gojo 40% stronger than normal so everything he has is basically boosted 40% over

Sukuna has True Form Ten Shadows and WCS but the one where he needs to chant it and basically everything else Open Domain DA Etc

all know each others abilities

now me personally it's hard to say who'd win and d I doubt it'd be Sukuna or he'd be least likely to win

2 out of the 3 is jumping one of them and it basically comes down to, who will Dabura jump with, I lean towards him jumping Sukuna with Gojo even if he doesn't like it

Dabura strikes me as an ok guy so meeting Sukuna whose basically a demon he would want to kill him especially since he has Mahoraga and WCS

now as to how the fight goes I don't think either Gojo or Sukuna would start off with they're Domain as a Triple Domain Clash is very complex if anything Sukuna would opt to use HWB and Gojo would use Simple Domain

Dabura might start off with a Domain but at that point it's to risky for Dabura due to many unknowns on his part so if anything neither party would pop ult just yet

I could also see him learning DA, HWB and Simple Domain from Gojo and Sukuna so he has those now

me personally I think the one likely to win is Gojo, It's hard to see a world where Gojo and Dabura don't jump Sukuna or atleast both attack him while trying to attack each other, Sukuna is not surviving that onslaught then it's Gojo vs Dabura and honestly Gojo wins due to Hollow Nuke and better refinement

1 fought upper 1 the other lost to Upper 6

gonna be doing a post on why Gojo can pretty much effortlessly Teleport and why the statement about it having Conditions is outdated

or Moreso yes his Teleportation has conditions but it doesn't have Conditions that's so Detrimental that Gojo can't use it

not to mention that statement was made

before the goodwill arc where we actually see Gojo teleporting blatantly or explaining his Teleportation

either way this is just a starter as I still need to do some research as appearantly he's teleported in games and novels not to mention I need to get the dates for statements

made a post a little bit ago giving a couple of options as to how Gojo could win fights if Sukuna would use DA 24/7, well if you don't make him an idiot

and atleast 70% of people said he literally just dies anyway and they actually were getting heated over the fact that most people didn't agree

Which is weird and this is something I never understood about the mindset why the hell do y'all have Gojo be a dumbass for Sukuna to win?

Mans can Teleport no it doesn't have Conditions as that statement was made before we even see Gojo actually Teleport using his Hands or for a refresher that Statement was made around chapter 16-17 and for context at that point we didn't even see Boogie Woogie

Has Stamina for days and practically infinite CE and can continuously spam moves

Sukuna literally has no way outside of Domain to or hurt Gojo meaningfully

If Gojo loses he simply wouldn't do that strategy again so why on Gods green earth is a strategy like Clash till he dies even a thing when he NEVER did that shit in Canon

it's to the point where I believe y'all don't even think Gojo is a battle genius

just want to let y'all know Gojo was able to make and fire a 🔴 In Malevolent Shrine with Thousands of Amped Dismantle's and Cleave's attacking it

out of everyone they might get the biggest upscale besides probably Gojo when he gets out that box

I debated this guy on it and he said Gojo said Sukuna could break out easily and that if Sukuna attacked the inside he'd easily win every Domain Clash

but that's not what Gojo said, he said it's weird Sukuna DIDN'T TRY Break it not that it would actually be successful that's a no limits fallacy

this is like someone questioning "why didn't you try to break out of prison" bruh it's not like I could even if wanted to

so when I questioned him on it he straight up ducked the discussion

not to mention this Barrier isn't actually easy to break, remember Gojo flipped conditions of his Domain meaning Outside is is as strong as inside and vice versa

in Clash 1 it took Malevolent Shrine Multiple which is a Thousands of 120% Dismantle's and 120% Cleave's Multiple seconds to actually break the Barrier

So it would take Sukuna Thousands of 120% Dismantle's and 120% Cleave's to actually escape the Barrier and it's not like Gojo's just gonna sit there and watch that happen, which is why he inverted the conditions cause Sukuna chances of escaping is near zero

Plus if this was True why the hell would Gojo invert Conditions if he knew Sukuna could instantly break out that's Out of Character levels of Stupid for Gojo whose a Tactical Genius

98% of the time Gojo engages Sukuna he uses DA to block Dodge or take attacks

So I dunno why people say with a straight face that Sukuna was taking a 🔴 and 🔵 to the face without Domain Amplification

even though in round 2 when UV was gone where he'd be more inclined to take damage for Mahoraga and get WCS

he doesn't he runs away or uses DA

what's worse I don't think the people who say this understand that it makes Domain Amplification look worse as a Damage Reduction since he gets damaged bad either way he has it on or off

been having alot of people private message me lately and ask how to debate the topic and how to make coherent arguments for either Gojo or Sukuna but one of them said he had a problem debating around "Sukuna prioritized Adaption" Point

and alot of them didn't know how to counter the "Sukuna prioritized Adaption" point so I reread the manga and some interviews with Gege

and this idea is probably the most popularized version of "he said she said" I've ever seen

since for one Sukuna never says he prioritized Adaption if anything if you look at slide 4 and 5 both Gojo and Sukuna say that he was using Domain Amplification alot to counter Limitless attacks or survive

Sukuna specifically says "When I wasn't using Domain Amplification I was using Ten Shadows" which is Sukuna directly saying he wasn't prioritizing Adaption and instead was prioritizing Amplification

since he uses Domain Amplification first its the operative word in the sentence and thus in context putting Amplification as Primary and Adaption as secondary in the fight which is why Gojo WITH THE SIX EYES never says Sukuna turned off Domain Amplification in the Clashes because he was using it so much it was damn near unnoticeable when he turned it off

Next 99% of the time Gojo squares up with Sukuna he uses Domain Amplification to Dodge Block Attack or take an attack and in some of these panels HE'S USING DOMAIN AMPLIFICATION EVEN WHEN UV IS GONE so if he's willing to not get hit when UV is gone, Chances of him wanting to get hit when UV is around drops those chances drastically

which is the big collage in slide 2 which brings me to another point a

People try to come up with ways to counter the "Sukuna used Domain Amplification Alot or near 100% of the time during the Clashes"

a few are "Mahoraga needs to adapt so Sukuna has to take attacks"

a good counter for this is to simply say it doesn't take Mahoraga THAT long to adapt to a Technique

He adapted to infinity in 10 hits and UV in 5 hits not to mention his Adaption speed increases everytime he gets hit, why do you think it took Sukuna damn near 10 MINUTES to adapt to UV? because he was using DA alot and continuously pausing Mahoraga's Adaption

second it's people saying "Sukuna was being pulled by 🔵 so of course he wasn't using DA"

and I have a whole post debunking that idea, with no one having a good counter argument besides"NUH UH" some even deleted they're comments out of embarrassment from how dumb they looked anyway here's the link to that post

https://www.reddit.com/r/JujutsuPowerScalers/s/8KI4iP7a0O

as to the guy or people in general hope this post helps with your debates