u/Oneeyedqamar

Like it is your body, I'm not being affected in either way. And like if you feel as if you can't raise this baby, don't. I feel absolutely nothing. Like some random unborn baby has no value, memories, no family, no one. If it is a real person who died I feel bad, you know they had a life, value, and people who loved them. And like I feel like pro-life are hypocrites, a lot aren't vegan, they don't wear condoms. Like you can't convince me that pro-life is not about control. Why do all pro-life care anyways? What is some random baby going to do? Are you happy? Like there are so many kids in the foster care system that need help, you won't, how about you start there. And if you hate abortion so much, how about y'all fix the reasons as to why someone would want one?and we all have our own problems anyways. I'm going to focus on myself, and so should you

Their only reason for ever being pro-life is their religion. Develop your own opinion. And they say stuff like "Don't murder this baby, God will provide." Well, we need it now. This baby is coming out and you are saying "God will provide," but the baby needs food, clothes, a roof, and a lot of things. And why can't I just give Jesus custody? Huh? He can pay because I don't want to.

And it is so dumb. Like your God said no so you listen to your God then I can do what I want. And they use guilt trips "Every baby is a blessing." If it is born into poverty or an unstable family, no it is not. And most of their arguments are weak. They only have five arguments and they are so easily proven wrong. And they are so unsure. In the pro-life subreddit it is the same five weak arguments and a bunch of memes and dumb quotes. Like you're not convincing me.

And anyways why do you feel the need to protect some random baby? Like all you are saying is it is murder. Do you think the pregnant person cares about your opinion? They are the one suffering, not you. And pro-life people do this for morals to seem better or whatever. They scream about murder and evil but they don't help anyone who is a real person with an identity already here. They care about some random unborn like wtf is your priority?

You can't be both you're either a feminist or pro-life. Pick one. And why are you pro-life anyway, trying to throw away our rights like that because your god said so?

TW: SA

This is my first time writing whole ass speech. This is long you dont have to read or even respond. Feedback would be nice. Have a nice day. Also, do not mind my spelling or commas and stuff I'm horrible in English. 

‘'It's only permitted in cases of sa' ‘If you think a foetus is a "person" with a 100% right to life, then it doesn't matter how it was conceived. The circumstances of a person's parents do not deprive them of their right to exist.

By making an exception for SA, you are admitting two things:

You know pregnancy is a massive physical burden/harm, and you only want to force people to go through it if they 'chose' to have sex.

And you're punishing someone else's choices with a human life.

If you can’t be consistent, you’re not arguing for “life,” you’re arguing for control over who gets punished for sex. "Well, you already said bodily autonomy is more important than the foetus in SA cases, so why isn't it in all cases?"

The claim that 'it’s the foetus's body' is logically inaccurate. A fetus is not self-sustaining it relies entirely on the mother’s nutrients and resources to survive. And also it's okay if the mother does not want to give her resources. Let's say a body part of mine could save a person but I could be sick and maybe die and more, right? I don't owe them my resources. It's not selfish and im defeliy not owed my bodily resources to help someone else 

"Just don't have sex." That one is also very stupid sex is not just about making a new human it's also about pleasure, and also you understand birth control can fail and . Condoms can also break. You understand that there is sa where someone is forced to have sex with someone they don't want to. Imagine how traumatising it it to make them  push out a rapist baby and this is very much a reality in other countries where young girls are thought their only purpose  is to be mother and grown men are pursuing them and jst because someone had sex, did they say they want to push out a human life 

"It’s worse than murder, SA, and etc." I’ve seen and heard people say this. This one is also very wrong. I saw someone say it’s worse than Epstein Island. Y'all don’t know what you are saying. It is a man who touched humans and impregnated them, and abortion is worse? And they also compare it to murder or SA. If you say this, you 100% don't know what you are talking about. SA is leaving someone alive with a trauma you inflicted on them. Are you telling me the termination of a baby is worse? Those two are completely different. A crime that affected real human beings someone who had a life compared to someone who's not born and can't feel pain or even understand what’s happening is insane. If you think a medical procedure is worse than the actual torture and violation of living, breathing human beings, then you don't actually care about life.

I don't care about abortion at all. Like when I think about it, I feel absolutely nothing. It is like a fetus, a baby, I don't care what it is. No matter how hard you try, I won't give a fuck. Also, only because pregnancy is hard I've never been pregnant myself, but the sickness and mental health issues postpartum for nine months and then the aftermath of pregnancy and taking care of a baby while dealing with that does not sound fun or even easy at all. And a kid is a big decision anyway, like you have to pay for everything and try and be your best for the rest of your life. "Adoption," you understand a kid could still be placed in a shitty family. Also, the parent still has to carry the baby. They are still going to deal with postpartum, stretch marks, and trying to get back to who they were.

I don't understand why people are so concerned about preventing random people from having abortions.

Not every baby is a gift. People assume that every child will automatically be placed in a loving and stable home, which is obviously false. Some parents are addicts, abusers, alcoholics, broke, mentally ill, or simply do not want children. Why is it somehow more "moral" to cause suffering to a child in those situations?

And, to be honest, many pro-lifers believe that pregnancy affects only the baby and not the person carrying it, which is false. Pregnancy changes your body as well as your mental health, finances, and future.

Also, people should stop acting as if religion should make this decision for the rest of us. Not everyone has the same opinion about when life begins.

And before anyone says, "Well, just put it up for adoption," that still means going through 9 months of pregnancy and childbirth for a child they never wanted in the first place.

I'd rather unwanted children not be born than be born into misery so that strangers can feel morally justified about it.

has anyone bought from there? I want to but it sounds kind of like a scam

nothing wrong with liking the same gender? It's uncontrollable. I see people say "god did not make man to be with man" god did not make man to do a lot of things does that mean they are sins "we cannot have all of our desires" then straight is a sin its a desire too "It's unnatural'' two women to have sex? No, it's not. I need logical reasons as to why you cannot be gay. Wtf do you mean someone cannot love someone else because "god says so" it makes me sad when i see gay religious people. What do you mean you never get to experience love because a god said so? Be you

like that doctor out there arms in you, fixed your heart with their learning and expertise. Do not say a god did it. Be religious, cool, but at least credit the person who did it. Also, when it is something they did like i remember someone being overweight they lost that weight and they thank God. No, honey, it was your effort that did that and also with things like pregnancy or birth, those things are hard. You pushed that baby out, you and you grew that baby. You can thank your god at home in your head

i have no motivation, okay, and I really want to speak Somali. Idk where to start, like how do i even start speaking

I remember reading a reddit story that said "you are too broke to be sexist" and frankly that same energy applies here. some pro-lifers don’t actually get how serious pregnancy is. they use words like ‘murder’ and ‘all babies are blessings’ or say ‘just don’t have sex,’ but disregard the reality of what pregnancy does to someone’s body, life and finances.

maybe focus on helping actual people first if you’re not the one experiencing it or supporting it. learn about pregnancy, be aware of the risks, and consider the cost of having a child. you going to pay for that kid? because it’s easy to talk when you’re not the one who will pay the price.

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if god is all knowing and wants us to believe him why does not he give us undeniable proof that he is god and when i say this people always say "free will" before adam and eve got kicked out there was no evil they named animals did everything perfectly fine and also why is not being gay allowed love is love like i need someone to explain and if god is all good why do so many people die every single day for doing nothing like why not the bad people who hurt others also in islam why do women have to hide hair its just hair we all have the same hair so why do not men have to cover hair and in prayer why does a woman have to hide feet and arms is basic human body