u/OnnenKaiho

I was honestly shocked to find out we have nearly opposite function stacks, considering my ex is an INTJ and I feel like we were truly on the same wavelength. Maybe not the same braincell, but definitely the same type of experience. We would constantly finish each others' sentences and understood each other emotionally. We had different experiences relating to the same situations - how we processed them was different. But we understood why we processed them that way, we weren't confused at all. The only person I ever connected with more was my ENFP ex, and that was a very tall order.

So, have you ever had this experience with us INFPs?

I'm struggling to understand what that would imply if not outright imply that Se users just simply don't theorize or think about broader patterns in society or the people around them--in other words, they take things at face value and cannot or will not consider broader or underlying hidden intentions or meaning. Which sounds...scary, to be honest? And also possibly inaccurate, if not definitely inaccurate, because I've seen plenty of ESFPs talk about politics and societal issues, which surely cannot be compatible with taking things at face value.

I saw a post describe Se vs the rest of the functions as bottoms up vs top down processing. I know what those two are, and in a way it makes sense, but I still don't fully grasp it.

I have noticed ESFPs tend to be very, very good at noticing their immediate surroundings. This is a really funny example but CaseOh's (he's an ESFP) streams of Waterpark Simulator are an excellent example of what I've noticed. He can spot someone flying off his waterslide from a mile away and notices the tiniest things in just 1-2 frames. He's like an eye spy champion. I'm okayish at noticing these things, but he's clearly so much better at it than me. He also makes a ton of observations about what's going on in a way that's hard to explain. I saw so many examples yesterday but I can't think of any right now, like a dummy. He makes very smart and interesting observations that feel entirely opposite of what I would notice. Is that what they mean by viewing reality without abstract meaning? He notices what is, whereas I notice what could be?

Is this the difference between Se and Si? This happened on one of his videos.

Video: Shows a POV of a person literally less than 2 feet away from 2 grizzly bears, that are eating grass

Si: Why is this person 2 feet away from a grizzly bear?!!? (Hard to explain from this sentence alone but I'm more focused on the concept of being that close to a grizzly bear than the actual video; my mind is immediately questioning the why and what it means of the people who do this)

Se: Today I learned something new, I learned grizzly bears eat grass. Also WHY ARE THEY 2 FEET AWAY FROM A GRIZZLY BEAR?! (Notices something tangible and interesting first, but also asks the real questions here)

Note that other times his first question was also "why tf are you this close", but whenever there was something unusual and tangible happening, he snatched it up so much faster than I did. My mind was off wondering why on earth someone would be that close and what they could possibly be doing. I probably wouldn't have even noticed it if he didn't call it out. It's obviously never an all or nothing thing, but he consistently calls out tangible things and notices them much faster and more consistently than I do. He's obviously not immune to questioning how someone arrives in a situation (i.e. an elephant chasing two men on a busy highway), but he seems to be very observant of his immediate surroundings.