Question about the demonstrative function

Hello! I’m wondering, exactly how and when it is used? I read somewhere that it only ’reacts’, and isn’t necessarily sparked by an internal impulse, and hence only used to cover situations when one’s dual’s PoLR function is confronted.

Say, demonstrative Ne, for example. Stratiyevskaya said that the EIE never ’gets stuck in a web’ or ’caught in a corner’. That they always have a way to slither themselves out of a situation, easily coming up with unconvential solutions to unexpected problems, but that they don’t necessarily use it outside these kinds of ’snaring’ situations. Another example is that they allegedly seldom say anything that could potentially be turned against them, and cleverly rephrasing it if they did (not necessarily lying). So could you say that the demonstrative function only alleviates pressure and nothing else? That it’s unproductive, in that sense, and like I said, only reactive?

Thank you for reading! :)

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u/OptimistHobo — 12 hours ago

How reliable are typings based on behaviour?

That's the question! Is it reliable to type someone based on their behaviour or do you have to dig much deeper than that? Can someone have certain IMEs (so they come to their conclusions a certain way) but naturally behave very differently from what's expected?

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u/OptimistHobo — 1 day ago

What's the deal with different "schools of Socionics"?

I've seen people talk about it, but I've never really understood or been able to find any good, explicit answer on the differences between the so-called "schools" like SCS and SWS (I have have no idea what those two refer to 🫠).

When I typed myself I basically just read all there is to read on the types I thought I could be, without knowing which "school" or model I was reading from :/ Could someone please explain the terminologies and differences between all the schools in detail for me, and tell me how the types differ between the models associated with them? Thank you!

I've seen people type Gojo as an EIE due to them "not using SCS", apparently. I considered him to be one of the more obvious ILEs :/ It's all just very confusing.

Even if you can't go into detail, any help is appreciated 🙏

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u/OptimistHobo — 8 days ago

In need of clarification! #firstpost 🎉

I haven’t really been able to get a good grasp on the first placement (in Psychosophy!) besides the fact that (I think) it’s sort of stubborn and self-centered…? As in not really sharing or changing whatever is going on with that function, not ’touching’ others, just asserting themselves, sort of. So does base Fe tend to be first E? And base Ti first L? Would that also mean that IEI, with creative Fe (so contact/producing), is more ’flirtaous’ than someone with base…? 😅 Since they would have second E, and as far as I know second E is stereotypically very ’intentionally charming’, if you get what I mean. And base Fe would be inert/accepting, so then probably first E? 🧐

Could someone clarify, please? Also, any LSIs here, at all…? Haven’t seen a lot of posts made by them 😅 Feel free to make yourself known in the comments :) I’m just curious to talk to one. My dads an LSI-Se, we have a lot of fun conversing! On the other hand you can’t really talk about the same things with your dad as with people your age…

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u/OptimistHobo — 13 days ago

In need of clarification!

I haven’t really been able to get a good grasp on the first placement besides the fact that (I think) it’s sort of stubborn and self-centered? As in not really sharing or changing whatever is going on with that function. First logic would probably then be someone who is very consistent in what principles they use and simply act through them without necessarily needing a lot of validation, whilst first emotion would be someone with their head in the clouds, essentially 🙌

Could someone clarify, please? Also, any LSIs here, at all? 🥹 Feel free to make yourself known in the comments. I’m just curious to talk to one. My dads an LSI-Se, we have a lot of fun conversing, but you can’t really talk about the same things with your dad as with people your age…

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u/OptimistHobo — 22 days ago
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Question about psychosophy!

I haven’t really been able to get a good grasp on the first placement besides the fact that (I think) it’s sort of stubborn and self-centered? As in not really sharing or changing whatever is going on with that function. First logic would probably then be someone who is very consistent in what principles they use and simply act through them without necessarily needing a lot of validation, whilst first emotion would be someone with their head in the clouds, essentially 🙌

Could someone clarify, please? Also, any LSIs here, at all? 🥹 Feel free to make yourself known in the comments. I’m just curious to talk to one. My dads an LSI-Se, we have a lot of fun conversing, but you can’t really talk about the same things with your dad as with people your age…

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u/OptimistHobo — 23 days ago

Summarizing Instinctual Subtypes

If you were to summarize each instinctual subtype (preservational, social and sexual) in one sentence, how'd you phrase it?

My attempts:
Preservational: Takes actions that align with the desire to care for immediate and future needs, security and potential failures.

Social: Takes actions that align with the desire to foster a community, uphold an ideal and maintain/widen one's range of contacts.

Sexual: Takes actions that align with the desire to couple with a singular, special person of interest which they can avoid restraint with.

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u/OptimistHobo — 1 month ago
▲ 3 r/JungianTypology+1 crossposts

Summarizing Instinctual Subtypes

If you were to summarize each instinctual subtype (preservational, social and sexual) in one sentence, how'd you phrase it?

My attempts:
Preservational: Takes actions that align with the desire to care for immediate and future needs, security and potential failures.

Social: Takes actions that align with the desire to foster a community, uphold an ideal and maintain/widen one's range of contacts.

Sexual: Takes actions that align with the desire to couple with a singular, special person of interest which they can avoid restraint with.

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u/OptimistHobo — 1 month ago