u/Ordinary-Sound-571

alright I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate, so bring it on. Firstly let's look at him for a second: a 26 foot tall jester spider. And yes, he's always been a six legged half baked character because he had these legs long before the hour of joy. There's nothing that says hes a prototype on him. if he was a prototype to bring poppy back who's only 1 foot at the very most, then his design should have looked like it. the mask was always his, always a jester, but he's a good design...just not a good design for a prototype. The Prototype looks bio mechanical so I'll take mechanical principles here: firstly if he's meant to be a prototype for poppy, then the design should have been 2 legged for testing how to make something at a small scale walk, not 6 spider legs that make me look short. Second if he was literally 1 digit away from poppy, then you shouldn't have needle fingers at this stage, finger tests are always before, and speaking of that, why's there only 1 human turned Prototype? When we Prototype we go through multiple designs, like this fits if it was about experiment 999 about in that spot because then they would make more prototypes refining it until they got to experiment 1007 (poppy I believe) and then what's the purpose of the hands he took? The "oh he's too weak" bullshit answer doesn't work here! It's not intimidation, only the long legs arm is used once, and why is it when we froze him he didn't reach for us with the long legs arm? The huggy and kissy arms are completely fucking useless and don't match previous arms.

So with 1006 if we take ACTUAL principles here, then he should only be 3-4 feet tall, not claw arms, face matching poppy nearly, and more. Not a 26 foot tall spider, that wouldn't make sense going form Goliath to little shit. And let's talk poppy for a sec, she mentioned being took apart and put together? Thats what I'm calling bullshit because the PROTOTYPE MODELS ARE LITERALLY MADE TO BE TORN APART! THATS THE ONLY REASON WE PROTOTYPE IN ANY DIVISION! like if he was 1006A I could understand it because then at about 1006B could be smaller, 4 legged, more humanoid fingered, and about 10 foot tall, then 1006C is basically 2 legs to fully get the leg concepts, after that 1006D should be 3-4 feet tall, 2 legged, normal armed, poppy like face. and let's talk design, a Prototype is never made to look good, all Prototype models are basically hollow skeletons, not hey here's a jester with a GOLD spine. Like seriously they had to have made multiple prototypes, there's no way 1006 was the only prototype because that's not how this works. and then somehow he was never found all that often? being stealthy? that's not how any of this works. you could say the lie of he's a jack in the box, but that actually makes his case mathematically worse because the size to body ratio means his box was 10 FEET TALL! so unless he broke himself off the box, and crawled around like Jackie did from FNAF secret of the mimic, I don't fucking buy his ass was sneaky because there is no stress marks on the gold parts that suggest he did. Unlike the rest of the fandom I don't give him the rule of cool, I give him the rule of get your shit together mob.

Next we get to those legs, let's talk. their supposed to be "built by him later on" cool...so where the fuck does the ribs come from on the front? where does a red front come from? why does the spider half have tendons on the legs while the arms are pure mechanical? where does the spider half begin to make sense he built it? why the fuck does he have a gold skeleton supporting his "tube" that connects him to the spider body? the movement there makes sense for a tube...but the logistics of tube to gold spine external make no sense if the tube could already support his 500-800 pound upper half...don't ask me how much math that took to get the answer to. and all of your arguments of he made it himself fall apart when you look at the torso, it's all symmetrical. why are all 6 legs identical then? if he built himself, then those legs should be mismatched. and why when he was planning the hour of joy did he STILL have those legs? minus the huggy, kissy, and mommy arms, he's still looks the exact damn same. don't care what material those legs are made of, but it would take a day to forge EACH legs parts per, not even adding on assembly time, how the fuck did he do that stealthily? let's go over the mechanical part of building a 26 foot spider then a 1 foot doll. it's mathematically not easy to make a bigger mechanical being.

Battlebots, let's look at something popular why the fuck not? I've met bloodsport, tombstone, and huge. They all prototype their new designs on the 1LB weight class, then the 3LB weight class. Wanna take a guess how heavy the final design is? 250LBS! If anything by using your logic here, that means poppy would be the Prototype to the prototype. I've done first robotics for 4 years of my life, when one of our teammates tried to go big prototype he costed us $25,000 and we instantly kicked him from the team, because his design was physically impossible and he would have kept going. We prototype at the small scale before building the full 115lbs bot. My literal mass of text isnt a feel good about 'oh poor ollie' it was HOW It makes no sense, and I don't mean with the consciousness because that's for a different time, it was about how he physically can't be a literal prototype because we know 814 was a rat killed and tried to bring back, that's a 200 gap I don't care about because we have no evidence that those 200 were mechanical. In fact if they figured it out with Ollie, then they should have made more prototypes to eventually make poppy. so if anyone now says he built his legs, give me the facts of how he built 6 identical legs with TENDONS on each leg, Plus did the whole world forget the tape they posted to their YouTube channel where he caught doctor newman? HES GOT THE LEGS! Look I don't care if it makes sense about orphan to monster, or the poppy gel, but I do care about that this literally can't be the prototype to poppy. If he's the Prototype to reanimating a soul, then it should have been specified in his name, and not just be called prototype. But because he's only called prototype, this implies he's the whole prototype. Like seriously, accept the prototype makes no sense, or that he's a fraud, because he makes ZERO sense.

So we know lily lovebraids was 'isolated' but what if I could prove she could leave. Look at the room behind the bookshelf, bam! There's a stash of glowby pens and a glowby. Now let's go to the outimal section where we get glowby, there's glowby pens and arrows where to go. Almost like we were being baited to sweet street. Look at what lily says to poppy: "Shut it! You've always been a bad toy! When he gets here, he'll see it too" she says it through the only other glowby in the game, so my theory is what if she was listening to us through our glowby, baited us, and more. Theres a hole in the dollhouse covered by a poster, so that's where she maybe escaped. And let's look, the outimals don't know how to write with pens because they don't have hands, so who could have wrote all the arrows throughout the game, why it could only have been lily. meaning she likely heard all of giblets "I'm not a hero" and probably got annoyed by that due to the constant "I'm not a hero" or heard all of the tapes through our glowby. Another reason I believe she could have been escaping is how else would she know we killed mommy long legs? how else would she know we killed doey?

I can only make out one word maybe and that's ash, can anyone help? Think it's in the long spiderweb

[short answer: possibly] This is a collaborative effort between ordinary-sound (me) and no-possibility to prove mommy long legs makes some sense.

u/Ordinary-Sound-571

And

u/no-possibility-5104

the physics/materials: (The no-possibility section)

Mommy long legs weight

Main parts: made of polycarbonate

Limbs: low density polythene

Her height appears to be 8-12 feet tall

The head has her brain and is like 3 ft cubed. Plus her hair, wkull and voice box make it likely 29 lbs. including about 23 pounds of cm thick polycarbonate (52 lbs all together).

Lower torso has a volume of about 3 ft cubed, (v=4/3 πr³ giving us a diameter of 2.68) pretty much all her organs and a good bit of meat and fat so imma throw a rough guess of of 50 lbs. plus the polycarbonate is likely 37 pounds, (165 lbs all together).

The upper torso is like 4.5 ft cubed. (2.4 ft wide, 1.1 foot deep, 2.5ft tall) Heart is the only thing inside other than like 16 pounds of meat. The heart is likely 2 times larger to pump all that blood so 1.5 lbs. plus a pound of esophagus. Then finally about a cm thick of polycarbonate “skin” which is like an extra 23 pounds (75 lbs all together).

The stretchy parts that connect the torsos and head must carry the esophagus, so that plus veins plus low density polythene; then I guess the limb is 4 inch in diameter and a max stretch of 20 feet. All together that gets us 6.8 lbs of neck. (300 lbs including the one that connects the torsos)

The limbs are like 200 feet in length but half as dense, so plugging that into a calculator gets us 147 lbs per limb (588 lbs all together)

Hands and feet likely weigh 8-9 pounds each (8+8+9+9=34lbs)

So adding it all up 52+75+165+38+588+34=952lbs (Likely more if we up her limb reach, I just went with a low ball on the “stretch hundreds of feet” statement)

(Ordinary-sound note: these proportions do match up with her body in game...minus 200ft)

The biological: (the ordinary-sound section) [spoiler:the answer is no]

So we know the body is made of low density Polyethylene, with the torso segments being polycarbonate, but let's start with with the organ placements.

Head: the brain.

Upper torso: likely holds the heart and lungs

Lower torso: basically everything else.

Both torso segments likely have their own ribcages internally to protect the organs and keep them in place. And due to her size she likely has a bigger heart... Literally. Her upper torso seems about human size, while the lower torso is like 2x human lower torso, so we can deduce she likely has bigger organs All around.

Now we talk limbs. From the surface level they seem impossible, but what if they aren't? We know of veins, but how long do they get? 60k miles long, which explains how her body can expand and contract. However the average human heart can't stand that much resulting friction, so it's likely bigger. To prevent blackouts during stretching she needs auxiliary hearts. Now something that makes completely no sense biologically is a 10-15 foot arms can go to 200 feet. That can't even be mechanical because that's my field and I can tell you no mechanism can do that. At most it'll extend 20-30 feet, maybe 40 feet if we wanted to be a funny guy.

But how about the stretch? That's one of 2 solutions, 1. It's tissue underneath, allowing expansion and movement without bone as the outside acts ats its own bone. Now how do we give her stretch in the neck so she can breath? We make her a vacuum tube style throat inside, So her throats got telescoping cartilage rings to extend and contract. Her upper digestive track has to be like a telephone cord, a coil, so that way she can eat and stretch at the same time. Her nervous system must utilize Giant axons because at full stretch it'll take her a sec to process anything. For her to effortlessly stick to walls she likely has setae on her hands and feet, like a gecko. (tiny hair like things)

Connecting the upper organs and lower organs won't be easy, in fact quite concerning because I'm not even sure thids would work, but here's how we do it. Instead of straight blood vessels, veins, and arteries, it's likely in a helix shape like a telephone cord, the esophagus would have to go through multiple teleccoping pockets rather than a direct link, and with her Central nervous system closer to the lower abdomen is likely braided tighter with elastic tissue with a mini rib like spine to support it all.

The downside Is none of this could scientifically work without poppy gel, meaning without it the throat doesn't work, the helix don't work, nothing works and you just wasted your time making a dead body. Infact without poppy gel every toy is scientifically impossible. But with poppy gel that's exactly how it'd be. A lot of this stuff wouldn't work without poppy gel. So while it does make sense, on our world she and all other toys scientifically can't exist, but if we account for poppy gel acting as a graphing substance, she makes partial sense.

I can already garentee she wouldn't have a baba chops, as candy would have PTSD from the tape, same with hoppy hopscotch and kickin chicken, meaning we have catnap, dogday, bubba bubbaphent, touille, maggie mako, Simon smoke, alligator gator, that pig one, poe, and more

Playing god by motionless in white (feat. Corey taylor)

Heart of fire by black veil brides

Nomadic by slipknot

The heresy by mushroom head

Gone sovereign by stone sour

Prayers for the damned by Sixx A.M.

Bleeders by black veil brides

Rise by Sixx A.M.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lilylovebraids_fans/comments/1stwttr/i_was_bored_so_heres_lily_lovebraids_psychology/ for the record I'm aware of her psychology.

So before anyone says 'oh he formed his opinion from Markiplier' I played it before mark. See I formed my own opinion on the game, I decently liked the bron segment, I liked the dollhouse section, despised the outimal section because somehow I glitched through the floor multiple times, I despised giblet because we won't shut the fuck up about being a hero because neither is our character. Hated chum chompkins because he contributed jack shit in my opinion, heck I'm fine to be called crazy but I liked the chapter 3+4 layout where we were introduced to big bad, boss 1, puzzles, boss 2, main chase. Huggy feels like he overstayed his welcome here because 78% of the chases was just huggy wuggy. I like him don't get me wrong, but I fucking despise most of the chapter being about a blue sour patch kid. Like I'm sorry, but giblets writing makes it so I physically can't replay it because "I'm not a hero" because WE GET THE POINT! Lily was basically meant to be the main antagonist for the chapter, and the prototype stole that spotlight and from that point on I couldnt keep playing the chapter willingly because that was a half baked death scene. Let's talk graphics, chapter 5 graphics was dogshit, most of it was gray, dull, or other and It makes no goddamn sense why! Most locations felt pointless, forgettable, or were so rage inducing that I nearly quit. Like chapter 5 was so much of a disgrace to the franchise no amount of money would ever make me replay the game, but it's also why I want 7-8 chapters, because if that was the second of last chapter, then I quit, because that's a goddamn disappointment to end a franchise on.

So if chapter 5 was the second of last chapter, I quit poppy playtime and I'm not coming back, that is a goddamn half baked disappointment and I despise the current writer. That wasn't writing that was an action movie made by a toddler! Let's not forget the glitches, chapter 4 was at least playable for me, but in chapter 5 I glitched through the floor 8 TIMES! 2 during the lily lovebraids segments, 3 times through the outimals section, once during the huggy section on the last chase, and a couple times during vent sections, then somehow I got huggy to fly during the free roam section with the kissy tapes before sweet street. Then while chapter 4 at least had SOME scary moments...chapter 5 fucking disappointed me with everything, there was no fear, there was no terror, nothing. Like chapter 5 was so bad except for sweet street it makes garten of banban look good! And I know damn well how shitty banban is, but at least banban isn't filled with "I'm not a hero." Every two goddamn seconds!...is it obvious how much I despise giblet? Look I want something to say positive about chapter 5, but aside from the facts of I liked how they accurately portrayed DID with lily lovebraids, and how the dollhouse section was actually fun, I have nothing else to say good about it. Let's talk writing, it was dogshit.

This feels like if AI had a brain tumor and a concussion and was asked to make a horror game, the caves visible that hey 'these are salt caves' but chapter 5 doesn't have the salt cave look! we went from salt caves to the devil's asshole taking off In space! Like go look at the caves real quick, and explain to me why there's a goddamn galaxy in the devil's asshole? (That's what I'm calling these caves) and that's not all, because why in the fuck is there Detroit 2.0 in these caves?? and how do i know what the caves should look like, how do I know what a salt cave is, how do I know they abandoned that look? BECAUSE I WORKED AT A SALT COMPANY! I know damn well how salt caves look, I know damn well chapters 3+4 got it mostly right, I know damn well without a light source their dark, not the devils asshole of chapter 5, and chapter 5 was a fuck you to my face! prototype calls it the better place, I call it the moment I quit if that continues to exist because that is bullshit! if they want to fix the franchise, delete the better place model from the game, because that was the first middle finger, delete the galactic asshole of the space area and make the caves darker, make the caves wet, and while it's too late for a new secondary character to join in, just delete giblets multiples of "I'm not a hero" and that would save the game in my eyes, and then id replay it. This is my opinion, everyone can have their own, you liked chapter 5? Good, but you don't need to say my opinion is wrong when I hate it. hate me all you want, but that's my opinion, I am a scientist and this felt like a shot to my skull because of how big of a shit show it was. atleast chapters 1-4 made sense. in fact go look at the better place model real quick, give me a damn good reason all of the lights are on that wouldn't seem like your trying to prove my point that the game has ditched its realism and is trying to talk down to me like my electrician degree doesn't mean jack shit. (I have multiple degrees because i was gonna be a NASA scientist)

if mob keeps the horridness of chapter 5 and brings it into chapter 6, and we go to the better place, fuck it I'm out. I didn't spend 5 years of my life in college to get slapped across the face by a game that used to be realistic. "oh but mob wants to go psychological horror" PSYCHOLOGICAL HORROR MY ASS, THIS IS PSYCHOLOGICAL TORTURE! the reason people play it is because of the living horrors like catnap or mommy long legs, not Gracie green but for every character. if anything from playing it twice and then and only then after playing it twice then watching marks review, he was too kind on it. and from seeing other streamers, I'm not alone. phosphor streamed the game, hated it, mark streamed it, hated it, can't remember if caseoh hated it but I watched his first. and unfortunately because of the art mob out out with all the toys being there, sure e fucking enough there's a city in the background. if that appears in chapter 6, I quit. I'm not even gonna get the game, I'd leave r/poppyplaytime for good if we actually went there, I'd burn my yarnaby plush, my huggy plush, and my catnap plush. I'm not shitting around mob, you got one chance, fuck it up, I walk. if we even step a foot in that Detroit but cave, I quit. I fucking despise cities in horror games because rarely can they get it right, and your astral cave hurts your case worse. so ditch the fucking city, there's other scientist in this community, as we all collectively agree if we step foot in a city, we walk. you make me touch a city, I quit, I quit, thats it, I'm done! I wouldn't touch a spinoff, I wouldn't touch a game where we came back, is quit the franchise entirely and go back to FNAF for horror, atleast they can keep the game from going into a drunken bliss. because atleast the goddamn mimic from FNAF is realistic AND RESPECTS ITS STORY! I took 3 years in engineering for fricks sake, and chapter 5 was like a blow from a shotgun in terms of this bullshit! check my reddit, ordinary sound. I have never once posted on r/FNAF because I don't like their story, but when I'm willing to go back to a story I dislike because you lost your footing, you need to know you fucked up, BAD.

I hate games with a shit load of dialogue because it doesn't just break immersion, it fucking destroys any chance for it. and why in the fuck are 2 of our allies helpless AND incompetent? one I garentee you is gonna sacrifice himself (giblet), and the other has a savior complex that would "blow up the hole factory" (poppy) because spoilers poppy, exploding the factory doesn't kill everyone, it forces them into a worse case in the US. overall if we walk into that city, I walk out. my conditions are set, and if that city is where we go, then I (u/Ordinary-Sound-571) will walk. I'd burn my shirts and plushies of the franchise, leave my scientific articles up for whatever remaining fans there are, and walk out and never come back. Playtimes over if we do. when chapter 6 releases I'll probably watch someone's playthrough like fusionZ because I feel scammed out of my money with chapter 5. if chapter 6 looks good in my eyes, then I'll buy it, if it's not and it leans into my criticism and what it shouldnt have, I don't just walk, I pull an Eric draven. "there ain't no coming back." that line is from the 1994 film "the crow" and it's sequels atleast respect it's story, with the amount of cutscenes there were, you might as well look at an action movie done right. even the crow: salvation respects it's story, and that's the weakest movie in the damn franchise! chapter 5 took the first 4 and said "fuck it." this went from a brutally honest reaction and thoughts to hating on it, at this point, it's valid! you wanna be an action movie disguised as a video game with the player as an anti hero? then look at the successful action movies like the crow, and even the weakest movie there can respect the first movies, so why can't you chapter 5?...I haven't even gotten to the puzzles but I'm too mentally burned out to give a shit.

Edit: got a mountain dew, now I tackle the puzzles...oh my God they're so bad at this point give me a drone and a red dude who wants pancreas (banban) because what the fuck. Puzzles are your main thing, so HOW THE FUCK DO YOU MESS IT UP?!😭 first why the fuck does exploding a beaker of gel open lockers? that's just lazy. why in the fuck does the ceiling open up at one section for a electrical pole to come down? at this point am I on an acid trip? this feels like a car company that forgot how to make its own engine, or twisted metal without the cars, or palworld without the pals, it's the main god damn thing! and the fact all we did was turn prototype slightly a shade of blue when we burned him, shocked him, froze him, hit him with a train, and more, that's not cool, that's a shit show of writing for devs who can't even respect the physics of their main villain. I get it, he's supposed to be god like, but for fucks sake, rust him, make him darker blue if you want that actual metal look, don't just slightly crack his mask, fucking destroy it! that long legs arm? make it melted, it's stretchy plastic, not polycarbonate! You know what, at this point if they keep Prototype being some Eldritch god as they are, I'm joining the critics and the people who say this is a kids game, because adult games respect their logic, not make engineers and scientist want a brain aneurysm and a milkshake. like there is no god damn explanation for the lack of damage to his mask, there is no excuse to why he gets up like nothing happened, there is no excuse to ANY of the magical horseshit that happened, it just happens and you expect long time fans to be ok?! The worst part is this used to be the most realistic mascot horror game yet! Now it's a goddamn disappointment and misery cocktail with an identity crisis. one chance MOB, I've already got a machine ready to burn my yarnaby plush first if chapter 6 is a disappointment, maybe I'll even post a video eventually to prove it.

We know the gel isnt said to be able to revive people, right? But firstly the brain would have died during surgery due to stress and especially since they're all kids. Meaning for certain characters like long legs and doey, so long as we found organs and new bodies or make new bodies for a brain transplant, we could revive specific people who we haven't seen what happened to the brain. Now looking into it mommy long legs would have been vacuum sealed essentially in her own shell, meaning the brain wouldn't decompose, plus the gel literally doesn't allow it. Now let's say the brain does die and thats not how poppy gel works, we could hypothetically genetically modify it in the labs below to make a type of gel that can revive stuff. Now long legs is the only one at the moment who I could justify this working on, because doey is a f$cking scientific anomaly, but yeah. Long legs could be revived. Ms delight could possibly be revived by the gel then. I don't need to prove it with lily, because I've proved in the past she isn't dead. Back on track I'll use Marie/mommy long legs as the demo here. It starts with the brain, if we hypothetically found her upper half, white it would be quite literally the upper torso and head without arms, it would make it so we could take the brain. Also just to clarify, in any case the brain would die doing this no matter what in biology, so the poppy gel latee is required. step two we find organs... where do we get organs? The freezer, steal some from another toy, or just grow some...or just...go check the break room, I'm sure there's a spare kidney. Step 3 we take the brain and organs, put them in a new body, sh!t load of poppy gel on there, close her up, let the stuff work it's magic, then like giblet shocked is alive, we shock her alive. step 4 add the negation formula. We want a-new-playmate mommy, not i-want-to-slit-your-throat mommy. (yes that was a slipknot reference, I've had that song playing on loop) So while it isn't specifically said, I'm on the belief it can revive anyone. I mean with the spot we were hit it looked like we got stabbed through the lungs by the Prototype. Like seriously we get stabbed, take a nap, and get dumped in raspberry jell-O, at this point death is an aggressive nap. so if we could survive that... I also didn't put as much research into the game lore about the gel here, but I think I got it right. doing more research we were dropped into what I believe is the treated gel or the restorative gel since we haven't became a monster yet from the main gel, so if we use the restorative stuff we could just...bring her back. however if I am right about poppy gel being able to fuse synthetic materials to be as limbs...this just got harder, but not impossible. if I got anything wrong about the gel, please do tell me. I didn't have much to work on in real life, but if we wanted to take real life principles, poppy gel is fucking brainEx from yale, where they revived pig brains but it was braindead, yet alive. Meaning poppy gel exists and/or is being made today for this stuff. Essentially using computer terms we could eventually find a way to revive the software since we've stopped the decay of the hardware. But yeah, because in the game we somehow turned a human mind into an AI, they probably already know how to do it...but can we stand a shit load of pent up trauma and PTSD that makes Corey Taylor's screams seem weak?

if you think I'm crazy, I've already proved lily would survive her death scene: https://www.reddit.com/r/Lilylovebraids_fans/comments/1sctd1o/its_that_time_again_were_proving_lily_lovebraids/

I have the power of science and attention deficit on my side...but seriously use the negation formula, we don't want the second best girl going rabid... oh wait, she already is.

So one thing I can't wrap my head around is how does poppy gel work? If people want it to bring back huggy and kissy, then by using that logic couldn't we hypothetically bring long legs back? Ok mean if we found the torso minus the arms. And by using that logic, wouldn't say...yarnaby be no longer dead? Does it only heal, because we looked like we were dying if not dead until we hit the gel, so how does it work?