Рубл (rubl) or сӯм (süm) then and now?

Рубл (rubl) or сӯм (süm) then and now?

The old Soviet rubles had сӯм (süm) printed on them in Tajik. The Tajikistani ruble that was around in the 1990s used рубл (rubl). What word did people actually use when speaking Tajik for the ruble both before and after independence? Do people ever use сӯм for the current Russian ruble? TIA.

u/OutOfTheBunker — 8 days ago
▲ 53 r/taiwan

Comparison Table of Taiwanese Numerals

I found this mildly interesting Comparison Table of Taiwanese Numerals (臺灣語数詞比較表 [Shinjitai: 台湾語数詞比較表]) in Naoyoshi Ogawa's (小川尚義) Nitai Daijiten (日臺大辭典).

At the top are three Chinese languages, Tsiang-tsiu Hokkien (漳州 Zhangzhou), Tsoan-tsiu Hokkien (泉州 Quanzhou) and Hakka (Hak-nyin).

The Tsiang-tsiu is that of Bangka (艋舺 Báng-kah), today Wanhua, Taipei, while the Tsoan-tsiu is from just down the road in Patchina (八芝蘭 Pat-chi-lân), today Shilin, Taipei. I guess they didn't want to venture too far south in those more turbulent days. The Hakka is from Yong-mui-lek (楊梅壢 Yòng-mòi-lak), today Yangmei, Taoyuan.

As it was published in 1907, long before the Kuomintang takeover, the Tartar Chinese pronunciations are not given.

The table then provides the numbers in 13 aboriginal (高山族;, here 生番 chhiⁿ-hoan) languages and 11 plains aboriginal (平埔族, here 熟番 se̍k-hoan) languages. At the bottom are the numbers in Tagalog and Malay for comparison.

The plains indigenous peoples are now all but totally sinicized, and only one group, the Kavalan (here Kabalān), was recently recognized by the ROC authorities, just a few years before their name was taken to brand a pretty decent whisky.

Here the Saisiyat are considered plains for whatever reason. Most of the names are similar to the contemporary indigenous names. "Vulung" is Thao; "Rarua" is Saaroa. IDK what the difference between "Sarisen", "Tsarisen" and "Taloma" is. I thought these were all names for the Rukai.

u/OutOfTheBunker — 25 days ago

Pronunciation of 晴 in 晴峰線?

The 晴峰線 was a rail line in Gî-lân-koān. How would you pronounce the "晴峰" here in 宜蘭口音? 勞力啦!

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u/OutOfTheBunker — 1 month ago
▲ 19 r/ohtaigi

Percent (Part 2)

Thiu 輸 (or 輸) for percentages?

I saw this in Macgowan's 1883 Amoy dictionary. Has anybody ever heard 輸 (輸) used for percentages in this way? 三七輸 sam chhit thiu for thirty percent but 九九輸 kiú kiú thiu for one percent?

(NB the degree symbol ( ° ) means that the character has a colloquial [白話音 pe̍h-ōe-im] pronunciation.)

u/OutOfTheBunker — 1 month ago
▲ 10 r/ohtaigi

Percent (Part 1)

I saw these at iTaigi. Do you use 一周 chi̍t-chiu or 一闖 chi̍t-chhoàng to mean "one quarter/fourth" (四分之一)? If so, how do you use them? In what contexts?

(I've heard 一周 chi̍t-chiu, but I thought it just meant "a piece".)

u/OutOfTheBunker — 1 month ago

Flaunting wealth? Clinking change?

I heard an old-timer say something like lak-tē-á mài[?]-kho[?] (轆袋仔☐☐). (I've no clew of the tones on the last two or if it's kho͘ or kho.)

Specifically, he said "lak-tē-á mài-kho mài-kho" and motioned toward his pocket. From context, the meaning seemed to be "flaunting wealth" or "flush with cash". Any idea what this could be? TIA.

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u/OutOfTheBunker — 1 month ago

Are these weird?

This is supposedly at the Jura Hronca dorm (ŠD Jura Hronca) in Bratislava. I guess it keeps you from having to lean over to look under a stall to see it it's occupied.

And no toilet paper? And no place to hang it if you byo?

u/OutOfTheBunker — 3 months ago
▲ 7 r/cpop

In English, you can use "various artists", "various performers" or just "various". Is there another Chinese term that would work when categorizing or describing a music album or collection without a "星" in it?

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u/OutOfTheBunker — 4 months ago