u/Pale-Pair2789

What are some dumb unwritten rules that you were expected to follow while a TBM

Ill go first my biggest issue was "not allowed to order food on sunday." Bro, Jesus literally said "Sabbath is for man, not man for the sabbath." Like i dont understand that rule. Every devout member of TSCC gave me weird looks when after sacrament i would go to the little caesars. They would say that its wrong to make people work on sunday. Im like bro, they are working, if we dont spend money, how they supposed to be paying they bills. What are yours?

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 7 hours ago

I lost my best friend, because I left the church.

23M, me and this guy were really good buddies, he really became my closest friend when the guy who baptized me showcased his true colors. I let him know today, that I was leaving the church. He told me he wanted to know why. I didnt want to reveal the full truth about Joseph Smith, or the church because he is both my friend and a TBM. He told me that he didnt like this new me, that he preferred the person I was the last 9 months. I told him that person I was was just a fraud, someone who was submissive and manipulated. He then left me on read. It hurt so much. To accept truth over lies, means my friends wont like me anymore. Why is it so painful.

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 2 days ago

If the book of mormon is a accurate translation from the plates, why is Jesus called Jesus?

So Jesus' name was Yeshua, so why the heck is he called Jesus in the book of mormon. I also do not even know how you figure out which characters are which in the book of mormon. It is so called reformed Egyptian, does that mean that its in hieroglyphics, so what character is jesus?

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 3 days ago

Gain a testimony of the book of mormon or the illad?

Hi 23m here, when I was thinking about how missionaries ask people to have a testimony of the book of mormon, I realized, its the equivalent of having a testimony of the illiad, or the hunger games. How the heck am I supposed to testify of a book thay cannot be proven historically true. Like when you think of a testifying witness, it means without a doubt. Yet, what proof is in the text, where the hell is the Ancient temples?

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 4 days ago

I messed up on my grad admission, am I done?

Hi, trying to hurry up and apply to ma school, I accidently put no on asking was I suspended after 9th grade. In 10th grade (7years ago) I was sent to a alternative school. I emailed my admission counselor and explained the issue. But am I screwed? Will this effect me going to graduate school?

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 6 days ago

I hate the mormon I was

I joined 9 months ago, over those months, I spent time growing as an adult, but realizing that I also grew into a person that disregarded everything that I loved. I am a historian, I knew the book of mormon was illogical and impossible to be true, but denied it because I was love bombed. I distanced my self from my distant family members. They now wont even talk to me, its so weird. I had a really bad relationship with my mom and my sister. Who are both my rocks. It started in september when people kepts peer pressuring me to go on a mission. Then in march I thought about moving to Utah. My ward began to isolate me because I was moving, they didnt want to minister to me anymore because they said it would be pointless. My mom fell into a depression. My "best friend" in the church, I found out never liked me, and I realized that he was using me for money. Over my time jn the church with gas money, food and gifts I spent over 2,000 bucks on him and his family. It broke my heart. Then a fated miracle happened. From God or the Devil I have no clue, I left my mentally depressing job, and my lease was denied. I was very angry, then I realized maybe it was fate. I had sold everything to move to utah. I realized that all my revelation, was just bs in my head lol. I realized that I didnt need the church, the church needed me, and they treated me like crap so I left. I decided to buy back video games, and applied to grad school. My mom got happier, and I realized that I was moving in the right direction. My distant relatives still feel betrayed, but mayhe they will change one day. I may be behind in life, being a 23 year old, no car living at home, and God hates me now. But at least I have my dignity. My advice to anyone thinking of becoming inactive, just do it! Your not a number, or a statistic, you are a person. You matter, and you deserve to be happy, not used.

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 6 days ago

Well, im going back to get my MA in history

Hi all, I hope this finds you well. I am a 23M now going back after a year to get my masters in history. What i will do with it, I do not know. But, learning history is never a waste of time so im excited. My sister makes alot of money so shes helping me out with tuition, and well my degree is online and in state so it wont cost alot. I am probably gonna just adjuct afterwards or use these 2 years to find a retail job I like. I am super excited actually though. I tried public school teaching this year, and well I hated it. The parents and admin are the worst.

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 7 days ago

The atonement heals trauma says bishop.

Hi I am a 23 year old exmormon who left the church after 8 months of being deeply active. I had gone through alot in my childhood, abuse, neglect and assault as well as endured bullying from peers for 7 year up until graduation. The last conversation I had with my bishop when I was explaining to him my trauma and how it plays in my head like a reel that wont quit he said "the reason this happens is because your not using the atonement of jesus christ to its fullness of effect." I wanted to scream at the top of my f*King lungs bro. Like how can tou tell that to someone, trauma will always be apart of you. Like dude, people in the church act like trauma is like a smell and the atonement is febreze like uh no. And then his wife told me that I need to strengthen my armor of god which is my testimony and to do that, I need to go on a mission. Like yes, being away from my mom who was beaten, not being able to talk to her for a week, and doing nothing but preaching will definitely heal my trauma. Like I wanted to post this and say dont let a bishop or a stake president tell you what you need to do to heal your trauma.

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 8 days ago

Any advice for careers with people who get overwhelmed easily?

Hi all 23M. I currently have a Bachelors in History, and am currently out of job. I went into teaching this year as a subsitute and hated my life. I am now at a crossroads. I genuinely do not know what to do. I have ASD, so I get overwhelmed easily when feeling rushed and prefer to do things at my own pace. I applied at numerous stores for stocking positions, and only landed one interview. I do not know what to do. I have a very high GPA to where I could go back to grad school, but dont know in what. My financial situation is good do to my support system, but I just want to be able to land a job that is not as much stress, I do not care about the pay. Any advice.

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 8 days ago

Its not Jesus Ministry but instead is the Successor to the Pharisees.

Hi all 23M, I fell for the church 9 months ago. Since then I was pushed torwards trying to go on a mission, in which I couldn't. Used by a friend who was corrupted with his position as a High Councillor, and understood the truth in regards to both the culture, the prophets, and the lovebombing.

Culture. - I found the church and was instantly love bombed. I felt like it was my new family, I then began to realize that once I was baptized, it was all a facade. My bishops then told me that I needed to "upgrade my testimony." I can do this by going on a mission. (Matt. 23:15 at its finest.) You can join the church, but if you dont go on a mission, consider you just being a convert. Marriage is off the table, which means by doctrine you cannot enter the celestial kingdom. The reason being is because women are only taught to date RMs, even the ones who just go on missions to date and check the box. The culture is heavy on ministering, not friendship. This means that people do not care about your life, they just want you to take the sacrament, a magic bread which is taught to give you a boost of power throughout the week. And are you paying your tithe. This then goes into the temple, in which your tithing money is supposed to go towards. Yet you cannot enter unless you pay tithe (Matt 21:13). Thus proving, if you join the church, you gotta give up 2 years of your life, 10 percent of your income and even sometimes, as a convert be shunned by your family, and asked to live a perfect life by the culture. However what did Jesus say (Luke 5:32).

Then we have the "prophets" - Ahh Joseph Smith, a man who saw God. Him seeing God gave him the power to translate plates of brass. I am a historian by the way. Their are no evidence of a Nephite Civilization. Yet, we have the Parthenon built dating and still standing longer than Captain Moroni, taking a building temples?? Were they built out of Legos? Joseph Smith was no different than Jim Jones or David Koresh, a mad man who used his power to quench his desire for lust. Then we have Brigham Young, who well hated African Americans. Yet Jesus, a Jewish guy loved the people of Samaria. We then have in general conference every 6 months telling young people to go on missions, that it is their duty. All the while Jesus taught (Mark 12:41) that doing enough with what you have is okay.

The church is very similar to the Pharisees, you have to be of a certain origin to be accepted, you are expected to serve and proslyte, then give up your income, and while you do that, you can then become a douchebag, and then rely on the atonement to forgive you for being a douchebag. Just my 2 cents, I truly believe that if Jesus was around today, he would look at the people in his church and cry. I really do believe that. Just my 2 cents on the matter.

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 10 days ago

Should I get a phd in history?

Hi 23M, I graduated last year from my uni top of my class with a 3.93 GPa. Decided to go into teaching public school and both regret my descion and hated my life. I am thinking of getting my phd in history, I know the job outlook is terrible, but I am hoping maybe I could get a job as a fknnacial aid and or admissions counsolor or something afterwards. Phds are most fully funded and my university is about a hour from my house so I can live at home. I know I can land the job I want without a phd, but well i like history and think phds are cool. I just dont know to be honest. Any advice would be much appreciated.

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 11 days ago

Associates and or Bachelors.

Hi all 23M, I am living in a city in NC with a massive crime rate lol. I have completed my bachelors in History and graduated top of my class, became a subsitute teacher and hated my life lol. I am now looking for well a career. I thought about going back to getting either a associates at my local community college and or a bachelors degree at my uni. I have a transfer degree so either degree will take either 1.5 for the associate and or 2 years for the bachelors. I kind of do not know what to do. I wanted to become a lawyer but well I have alot of petty crimes that I was never charged with and ptsd that may prohibit me from taking the bar. But I really love law and I think paralegal would be really cool, any advice?

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 12 days ago

(C&F) Should I try for Law School, or go a different route.

Hi 23m here. I am currently at a pivot right now in my career. I decided that I hate teaching, and am looking for another career and was told by a professor to consider law school. I have a 3.93 GPA, and numerous academic accolades with a not so stellar upbringing.

I was involved in petty crime between ages 11-15, and well here is my rap sheet that never went to court.

11- stole a bike, got caught, and police had me return the bike and took me home to my mom.

13- me and a couple of friends broke into a house, one of them stole a firearm. I cooperated with the police and was then released to my mom.

14 - played chicken in the road after curfew at 1 am. Police picked me up and took me home.

15 - Drove a car without a license and then when I got pulled over, I ran from the cops and got caught and they realized that i was a kid and took me home to my mom.

I also suffer from ptsd from well my father, who I haven't seen since I was 10, when I was 11 my mom got sick with cancer hence why I was an idiot kid. My ptsd has been controlled through therapy and at 15 I decided well I didnt want to end up like my father and changed. At 18 I went to college and 5 years later here I am with a college degree.

I am really thinking of becoming a DA, but I dont want what happened in my childhood effect me. I understand I did wrong, but I am thankful that I did it as a kid and was able to learn the lesson the hard way, and without any serious repercussions. So I wanted to come on here and ask should I pursue law? I researched and I could get a c&f lawyer when I take the bar, but i dont want to put 3 years of my life, money and time and then be a 27 year old who cant take the bar because of something he did as a dumb kid, and be in the same boat as I was now.

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u/Pale-Pair2789 — 13 days ago