MPT practice?

I’m someone who needs to spend more time on MPT’s because I’m struggling with timing/outlining/etc

Also balancing MBE and MEE prep.

How many MPT’s are people taking a week? I definitely need to do more than the average.

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 9 days ago
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Sick of taking my ADHD meds

For those with ADHD and on meds - how are you dealing with it? I’ve been on it for over ten years and I’m used to taking “drug holidays.”

Obviously studying every day doesn’t make that possible. I’ve lowered my dose and added NAD to help with the crashes but I’m still so sick of taking it.

Any advice?

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 9 days ago

Studying for bar exam recommendations?

I’m currently taking NAD, Semax and selank. Should I be adding something to help with these next five weeks?

Looking for stamina, energy and increased memory recall!

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 15 days ago

Tips for studying for the bar exam?

Looking for advice on getting through the bar exam (only 5 weeks left)

Currently taking what people suggest for focus etc but would like to see if there’s anything I’m missing

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 15 days ago
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Taking the bar exam

I’m taking the bar exam in July. Currently taking a few things (don’t think the guidelines will let me say) but looking for suggestions!

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 15 days ago

MEE example - when to stop writing rules and move on

Does anyone have a good rule of thumb for knowing when you've written enough of the rule statement and should move on to the next issue?

I'm noticing that I'll spot an issue and then apply a single fact to multiple sub-issues, which ultimately proves unnecessary. It's also hurting my analysis because I spend so much time bouncing back and forth between rules.

For ex., on a Themis MEE Contracts practice essay asking, "Is Retailer liable for breach of contract?", I went down a complete rabbit hole:

  • Applicable law
  • Contract modification
  • New consideration (likely sufficient)
  • Potential defense: preexisting duty rule (unlikely)
  • Terms of the contract
  • Condition precedent (created by the language)
  • Potential defense: unfulfilled condition precedent (unlikely)
  • Implied duty of good faith and fair dealing
  • Conclusion: Retailer is likely liable because there was a valid contract modification and the condition precedent was not discharged.

The model answer, however, only discussed:

  • Applicable law
  • Modification
  • Offer, acceptance, and consideration
  • Condition precedent
  • Good faith and fair dealing
  • Liability

I'm realizing I may be over-spotting issues and creating unnecessary branches instead of focusing on the issues that actually move the analysis forward.

Has anyone developed a good rule of thumb for deciding when to stop writing rules and move on?

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 17 days ago

Civ pro memorization?

What’s been the most effective way to memorize Civ Pro? Flashcards?

Its obviously much more technical and process-driven than the others, so I’m wondering if there’s a better approach than trying to memorize every rule in isolation.

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 20 days ago

Suggested MBE approach?

I’ve been going back and forth with how I approach MBE questions. Sometimes I start with the call, glance at the answer choices, then read the fact pattern (which sometimes allows me to answer correctly without totally knowing the rule).

Other times I read the call, fact pattern, answer the question in my head, then match my answer to the answer choices. I feel like this approach takes me too long but it may be because I don’t know the rule that well?

Thoughts/suggestions??

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 23 days ago

Themis end date?

If you’re doing Themis, what day does your plan essentially “end”? Mine isn’t until July 14 and I think I need to recalibrate my plan?

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 26 days ago

MPT struggling but why?

I’m so confused why I’m struggling with the MPT. Isn’t it what we did in school?

It’s taking me probably 75 minutes to finally get the law and then I’m scrambling applying the facts.

I’ve been reading the task memo, reading statute first (if there is one) then reading case law in order from most recent to least.

Is there a better order to go in?

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 28 days ago
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Grossman or GOAT for extra help?

Ok I need extra help for property and I don’t even want to take the chance of having to waste more time on one subject when there are 6 more to worry about.

Anyone have good experiences with either?

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 1 month ago

Themis good MPT but supplement too help?

Ok what additional resource is good for tips/tricks on the MPT. Obviously just practice but is there a resource that helps cut time down so it becomes second nature?

There must be cheat codes to extracting the law in the library fast enough to spend the majority of your time using the facts in the file.

Themis’ lectures are pretty good but there must be resources to recognize traditional patterns (elements, factors, etc) based on the nature of the test itself???

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 1 month ago
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So embarrassing to even complain about - going through a break up during prep

This is so embarrassing to even talk about because this is life altering and a relationship isn’t lol but does anyone have any advice of just pushing through the day when things feel heavy?

Prep is already miserable and depressing and just looking for ways to block it out when it creeps in. I know I’ll be over it in like a month but just waiting to get there in the meantime

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 1 month ago

Handwriting or typing outlines etc?

I’m so accustomed to typing out notes, rule statements, MBE questions I don’t remember. But it feels very unproductive. I know I’m someone who retains info better by actively writing, highlighting, post it notes on top of notes (I’ve been like this since I was 13)

However, I feel like handwriting notes/flashcards/anything that people suggest takes so much time and might not be efficient? I don’t know I’m struggling with a healthy balance especially when exam time rolls around, I’ll want an organized list of things to remember.

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 1 month ago

Extra Property help??

I’m taking a prep course and am really struggling with property. I’m doing decent on the practice questions but I feel like I’m just using multiple choice style tricks to get them right.

Is there a supplement /video lecture anyone would suggest?

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 1 month ago
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Themis lectures feel like a waste of time?

One of the reasons I picked Themis over Barbri was because the lectures were way shorter. But honestly, I’m starting to feel like sitting through hours of lectures every day isn’t the best use of my time.

No disrespect to the instructors at all, but a lot of the lectures feel like they’re just reciting the outline. I feel like I learn way more from actually doing practice questions and reviewing the explanations.

When I’m doing questions, I actually feel myself understanding the material. Half the time I’m thinking, “Wait, where was this in the lecture?” I know they can’t cover every nuance, but practice questions seem to teach me the test way better than passive listening does.

At the same time, I feel guilty skipping lectures because Themis pushes the whole “complete 75% of the course” thing.

Anyone else feel this way? Did you eventually ditch lectures and focus more on practice, or did the lectures end up helping more than you realized later on?

Just trying to study smarter and not waste time.

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 1 month ago

State-Specific Essays vs. UBE MEE ??

Has anyone taken both a state-specific bar exam and the UBE and noticed major differences in the essay questions besides just the state law being tested?

Just a few thoughts/questions off the top of my head -

  1. Does the structure/style of the essays feel different?
  2. Are state-specific essays more nuanced or policy-focused?
  3. Does timing feel tighter or more manageable compared to the MEE?
  4. Do you have to write more in-depth analysis on state essays, or is the MEE just faster issue spotting?

Curious whether the actual approach to studying/writing changes, or if it’s mostly just learning different law.

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 1 month ago
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Reverse Engineering MBE questions???

Anyone else feel like the MBE is basically pattern recognition disguised as memorization?

I’ve been trying to reverse engineer questions in addition to rereading outlines by spotting repeated fact patterns, common traps, and how the examiners construct answer choices.

The classes I did best in during law school were the ones I approached this way, and I got a 174 on the LSAT using a similar strategy. (I know the bar is a completely different beast)

Has anyone had real score jumps using this method in addition to traditional studying?

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 1 month ago

NotebookLM for Organization?? Thoughts

Has anyone used Notebook to organize materials for each subject? I love how it has so many features. I’ve been using it to generate flash cards because I can run through them on the app without glitches because the themis app is too slow.

If so, what are other ways to use the features they offer?
If not, what other tools would you suggest?

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u/Potential-Tone6826 — 1 month ago