Shatterpoint and Glass Abyss: for folks who read and enjoyed both, what do you think?

I know they are by different authors, written in different decades, and not even necessarily part of the same "universe," but to me there were some very big differences and similarities in the stories.

In Shatterpoint, Mace goes to fetch Depa Billaba from Haruun Kal, a planet where the indigenous humanoid population happens to be force sensitive and has their own traditions and culture around using the force. Depa has gotten so personally invested in the local conflict (and the rebel leader) that she's no longer a neutral intermediary, and has instead become a co-leader of the Korunnai fighters. Alongside this transformation, she has succumbed to despair as a result of exposure to all of the destruction, suffering and violence. She has lost faith in the Jedi way and thrown away a lot of its principals yet remains conflicted, as shown by her deteriorating mental and physical state. Mace goes through similar challenges due to the ruthless environment, and a big point of his journey is maintaining who he is and what he believes in despite all of the violent challenges around him. He also experiences personal development in relation to his identity as a Jedi who is also Korun.

In Glass Abyss, Mace accepts a mission passed down from Qui-gon and goes to Metagos, a planet where the indigenous humanoid population happens to be force sensitive and has their own traditions and culture around using the force. Completing this mission requires him to get personally invested in the local conflict (and with its eventual rebel leader) to the point that he's no longer a neutral intermediary, and instead becomes a co-leader of the rebellion and about as enmeshed with the locals as one can get. He goes through mental and physical suffering (insomnia) as a result of self-doubt, but instead of succumbing to it, overcomes with the help of the connections he's made with locals (also a part of his identity now, as he has become one of them). Mace's understanding of the Jedi way isn't challenged directly but it does alter slightly. His understanding of the force is expanded, and he also is forced to confront doubt around his past, specifically regarding what it meant for the Jedi to take him from his home as a child. As part of making peace with that, he reconnects with some of the more Korun parts of himself and his history.

I liked both of the books a lot and I'm not going anywhere particular with this, but I felt it was interesting that this character appeared in two books with similar topics but very different worldviews. I feel like if Glass Abyss!Mace tried to get away with the same shenanigans in the Shatterpoint universe, he would have gone back to Coruscant and been tried. Meanwhile, Shatterpoint seems to have a bleaker outlook in general, with the one thread of hope offered in the final paragraphs equally bleak. It's like, "you cannot stop the violence, and if you try to mitigate it your attempts will just make it worse, but that doesn't mean you should ever stop trying. The only victory is to not lose yourself." Conversely, Glass Abyss just seems to have a much more hopeful tone all around. While both books demonstrate that it's never entirely possible to be a neutral bystander, I think Glass Abyss goes a step further in having Mace actively make some big decisions about the future of Metagos, and then be a driving force executing those decisions without feeling any kind of internal conflict. It's just a different kind of message.

In the end, it's just kinda funny to think of him in a universe where both of these things might have happened, chasing after Depa like, "do as i say not as I do!!"

What do others think?

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u/Powerful_Flan4709 — 11 days ago

Pirate Clark as Clark's Jungian shadow self

There have been so many interesting frameworks used to analyze this movie, but for me, a Jungian/analytical framework really resonates. For those unfamiliar:

https://www.tamug.edu/nautilus/articles/The%20Jungian%20Shadow%20and%20Self-Acceptance.html

That's not to say this is the only way, or even a superior way, to understand the movie. As others have already mentioned, a critical race framework brings nuance to our understanding. Meanwhile just looking at different genre tropes and real world implications (I.e., growing use of AI and what it means for us as humans) is interesting to think about. Just seeing another perspective to the conversation.

What do you think?

u/Powerful_Flan4709 — 3 months ago
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It's like explaining to someone what a dog is who has never seen a dog, and then asking them to draw it

u/Powerful_Flan4709 — 4 months ago

New York's hottest club is the null zone in the sublevel of Captain Clark's Ottoman Empire

This place has everything! Ominous piles of furniture, a pots sign (that's a stop sign spelled backwards for all you squares), a filthy laundry room that's actually the lair of a cannibalistic pirate that's actually a copy of a memory, Christmas trees with fragments of tortured statuesque bodies crawling out of the floor like they're in the Pompei Ruins, shoes filled with cement, a copy of the tortured version of yourself from your childhood that will exist trapped in liminal space for eternity, a multilingual caveman, stools, people that are actually furniture that you can eat, a refrigerated head, tiny doors, a guy in a flannel shirt who exists out there somewhere probably, a swimming pool, free nitrous oxide, and hazmat suits!

u/Powerful_Flan4709 — 4 months ago
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Drawing a card for guidance: Two of wands reversed

Hi all! I gave a presentation today on a difficult topic. I know some people in the audience felt sad, scared or emotional for personal reasons, and it made me feel guilty. I don't like making people feel bad, and the topic is just scary. I mostly wanted to raise awareness. Could I have handled the topic with more care? Was I wrong to do the presentation? Is there guidance for me in this moment?

Anyway I drew the two of wands reversed (RW deck). My interpretation is that maybe I can use this experience to rethink my approach and plan better if I ever do the same presentation in the future. However, I shouldn't be so afraid of making mistakes that I don't get out there.

I would really appreciate any alternative readings or intuitive messages people are getting!

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u/Powerful_Flan4709 — 4 months ago