Lip Asymmetry after Tox (How do I fix this?)

Lip Asymmetry after Tox (How do I fix this?)

A little background: I have constant lip and chin clenching. I used to have bruxism and it evolved into this. My lips are always in a grimace. A lifetime of this clenching led to a deep labiomental fold and class 2 division 2 mallocculsion. I had braces and a genioplasty but the genioplasty relapsed because of this constant clenching and retro force against my face.

So I tried tox. First a few sessions into my mentalis and this reduced the clenching about 30%. Then last night I tried microdosing the DLI and orbicularis oris/lip muscles in the bottom lip.

This morning I woke up with this lip asymmetry. This was done specifically for clenching and not cosmetic reasons - the good news is that the clenching/grimacing is almost gone. The bad news is the visible lip asymmetry. It is actually more prominent in the mirror than what the picture shows.

It is the top corner/top lip that drops down on the right side (picture left) that is causing the asymmetry. The bottom lip looks fine in the mirror, it is just that corner that droops down. Where on the left side (picture right) should I inject to even things out? Is it the OO or DAO that is causing the corner and top lip to droop?

Thank you in advance

u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 14 hours ago

The Match Group and Online Dating

https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1ltsevk/a\_man\_on\_tinder\_swiped\_right\_over\_2\_million\_times/

This needs to be talked about more.

Almost every online dating app is owned by a single company called the Match Group. Take a look at the ethnicity of the CEO, board members, and shareholders (the biggest shareholders are BlackRock, Elliot Group). Tinder used to be based out of Israel.

I am certain that they are applying DEI to their algorithms and essentially shaddowbanning white men.

I'm 6'2 high tier normie that goes to an Ivy League school. I haven't matched with a woman in months even after paying premium.

Men need to be contacting their local politicians, District Attorney's, filing lawsuits to get a hold of their algorithms. Show incel statistics, suicides, mass shootings, and how they're all correlated to these apps and are rising by measures of magnitude, then demand they open source their algorithms, then criminal charges.

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 3 days ago

Where do you see attractive girls?

I live on a university campus and haven't seen an attractive woman in three years.

Every coffee shop is empty, bars and pubs, malls, the same, etc. I literally go to a different coffee shop everyday within a 60 mile radius and they are all totally empty.

I think online dating apps changed their behavior. They only want to interact with men through these apps. Also COVID made them comfortable being hermits.

I am not getting matches on Tinder so I am cooked. Everyday I go out trying to meet a decent looking one but I haven't even seen one in years.

Where else should I be looking? Is this the same with you?

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 4 days ago

Please help. How can I improve my chin?

Background: I used to have severe bruxism and lip and chin clenching. I think this gave me the witch chin and class 2 division 2 malocclusion.

I fixed my deep bite with braces then had a genioplasty surgery to improve my chin but the surgery relapsed and I am back to where I started.

I did mentalis and DAO tox and this reduced my lip and chin clenching/folding. But I still hate my chin.

It does project good from the side profile so I think chin filler to project my chin will just create a deeper mentalis crease and folded chin.

Maybe filler into the crease to reduce the fold, Botox into areas around the mentalis fold to reduce the wrinkle, and a couple points along the mandible lateral to the chin? Could Botox alone reduce the mentalis crease? Where would you inject? (I already did mentalis Botox and it is frozen and didn't affect the crease)

u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 9 days ago

List some classic movies shot in Cinema Verte style

I am looking for movies from the 40's to the 60's shot in cinema verte style, or shot entirely on the street and not in a studio with lots of city scenes. I want to feel like I am drawn into a world that no longer exists.

For reference, here are some movies I watched recently that fit the bill: On The Bowery, The Naked City, Blast of Silence, Shadows.

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 11 days ago

Botox to reduce the mentalis crease

Has anyone done this?

I have a deep mental crease in my chin, it looks folded in. Can Botox reduce this crease like it does to creases on the forehead?

I also have a lot of lip clenching. My lower face is always in a tight ball, like a grimace, so I am hoping to kill two birds with one stone.

What are the injection points would you do without causing bottom lip incontinence or asymmetry?

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 12 days ago

Opinion: Jaw surgery is the only hardmax worth doing

And this is after you did a lot of research and found a top 10% surgeon.

You can see some amazing before and afters posted here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/jawsurgery/

And these are average people posting their results, not surgeons trying to sell a product.

If you have a big nose it is 9 times out of 10 related to your jaws (long midface, short lower third). See:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Clavicular/comments/1u314t5/dont\\\_touch\\\_your\\\_nose\\\_fix\\\_your\\\_jaw/

I rarely see any other cosmetic surgical results that look good. Every rhinoplasty looks botched (look at Clav) and this is because the issue was never the nose, it was the jaw ratios. Fillers and implants look Uncanny Valley and do not look natural.

If you have a crooked or asymmetrical nose or nostrils things like nose straightening or an alarplasty could be beneficial, but for a big nose that is fixed by jaw surgery. A hair transplant from a top surgeon (who doesn't do a straight line) could also help you, but even these rarely look natural.

I see too many people permanently botching their faces so this needs to be restated.

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 12 days ago

Is it over for male-female relationships?

Online dating apps and social media have created a historical epoch.

Women have unlimited options at their fingertips, dozens of orbiters, and as Clav proves, they're all willing to share the same Chad as part of his harem.

This is the 80/20 rule, or even 90/10 at this point.

The average and below guy is doomed to a lifetime of loneliness. If you don't have looks you have to make up for it with money, and even if you do have money, you are looking to marry a post-30 used up whore who is looking to "settle" after spending her youth riding the cock carousel.

Is focusing on acquiring money, paying surrogates and hookers, our only option out of this nightmare as men? Maybe if every incel converts to Islam? That will throw a serious disruption into the system.

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 20 days ago

Can Botox smooth out the mental crease on the chin?

Has anyone done this?

I have a deep mental crease in my chin, it looks folded in. Can Botox reduce this crease like it does to creases on the forehead?

What are the injection points without causing bottom lip incontinence or asymmetry?

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 21 days ago

LITFULO (ritlecitinib tosylate)

Has anyone tried this drug for hairloss? What is the community's opinion on it? There are surprisingly few posts about this drug in the archives.

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 23 days ago

Asian girls on campus (help me understand this phenomenon)

I live on a university campus where I am surrounded by FOB Asians and I am starting to notice a pattern.

The process is: they go out of their way to draw attention to themselves, then try to reject the guy that noticed them.

Examples: Sitting at an empty cafe one comes and sits directly next to me then turns to look at me. After I turned to notice her she shakes her head and angrily walks across the room to another table. Sitting in lecture halls this has happened multiple times. The other day while standing at the train station one came and stood next to me, turned to look at me, then when I noticed her it was the same process, head shake and then angrily walking away. She even went and hid behind the bus shelter like because in case I tried to talk to her. Then when I was getting off the train waiting for the door to open one was staring at me through the reflection in the glass. After I made eye contact she shook her head and angrily walked to get off at the other side of the train. The other day at a grocery store while I was looking at groceries on the shelf one came and stood next to me. After I turned to notice her I got the same treatment.

I do not notice this with other races of women. With white women none of them go out of their way to be noticed and if I do make eye contact with them they just look away or look at their phone. There are no dramatics involved.

Is this some weird form of cope or ego boost in their brain? Going around deliberately trying to tell guys they are not interested in them? Do you experience the same thing?

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 24 days ago

Tox into the orbicularis oris (OO) muscle

I constantly clench my lower lip and chin. It is always in a tight grimace. I used to have severe bruxism but it evolved to this.

I did tox into the dao's and mentalis muscle and this reduced it by about 50% but my bottom lip is still clenching and balling. I have a deep labiomental fold because of this and it ruins my appearance. Also, when I meet people my bottom lip/lower face is in a grimace and this is off-putting.

Can I safely inject tox into my orbicularis oris (OO) muscle without causing lip asymmetry, incontinence, difficulty speaking, etc?

What areas would you target if you were me? Any precautions?

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 24 days ago

Daily reminder that Clav is right: Looks are the only thing that matters in this life!

Your presentation has always been important. But things have gotten out of control because of three modern phenomea:

1)Online dating apps and social media have given women unlimited options, inflated egos, and exposed their superficially. Previously women would settle for men in their social group but now you have to compete with men in every surrounding town and even around the world.

2)Every other man is looksmaxing. Retatrutide made being overweight a choice. Minox and finasteride made balding a choice. So the pool of attractive men that you have to compete with increased dramatically.

3)More women in HR positions who are applying their superficially to jobs hirings. Note that most jobs are now being filled through LinkedIn and not simply resumes anymore? If they like what they see on LinkedIn an initial Zoom interview is scheduled before your application is sent to the hiring manager for a formal interview. They need to see the male applicants face before they make a decision. This is even for factory work.

Lookism is real. Hypergamy is real.

Water is wet but this board is flooded with boomers who post nonsense like "just be confident" or "just pull yourself up by your bootstraps" so this needs to be stated.

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 25 days ago

Reminder: Double jaw surgery is the only hardmaxing worth doing

And this is after you did a lot of research and found a top 10% surgeon.

You can see some amazing before and afters posted here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/jawsurgery/

And these are average people posting their results, not surgeons trying to sell a product.

If you have a big nose it is 9 times out of 10 related to your jaws (long midface, short lower third). See:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Clavicular/comments/1u314t5/dont\_touch\_your\_nose\_fix\_your\_jaw/

I rarely see any other cosmetic surgical results that look good. Every rhinoplasty looks botched (look at Clav) and this is because the issue was never the nose, it was the jaw ratios. Fillers and implants look Uncanny Valley and do not look natural.

If you have a crooked or asymmetrical nose or nostrils things like nose straightening or an alarplasty could be beneficial, but for a big nose that is fixed by jaw surgery. A hair transplant from a top surgeon (who doesn't do a straight line) could also help you, but even these rarely look natural.

I see too many people permanently botching their faces so this needs to be restated.

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 29 days ago

People underestimate the effect that online dating apps and social media are having on society

I am not just talking about the hypergamy that comes from these apps, but female behavior in general.

I am forced to interact with ugly girls at university. FOB ethnics, purple haired obese white women, etc. 99% of the girls I interact with on a daily basis are 2's. All of these women have huge egos. They're impossible to deal with in group project settings. It is just a constant wall of fuck off indicators, short verbal replies while not looking you in the eye, wall of negativity, you know like when a woman is trying to preject you. They all think they're supermodels, and why wouldn't they think that, they all grew up with a lifetime of validation and male attention on Tinder.

It is becoming soul destroying boys.

How can we even fix this at this point?

Is Islam our only hope?

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 1 month ago

Is trying to find a gf in 2026 a humiliation ritual?

The amount of rejection that the average man faces while trying to find a gf is inhumane and soul destroying.

This era of rampant female hypergamy caused by dating apps has got to be some type of COINTELPRO op designed to demoralize and break men.

I just matched with an ugly girl on Tinder. A literal 2. It was my first match in weeks so I messaged "Hey, how is your day going?" and she immediately blocked me - LOL! She didn't just leave me on read, but blocked me.

It's getting hard to cope bros.

This entire Western system needs to be burnt to the ground!

How are you coping? Is moving to Thailand our only hope? What type of job could I get in Thailand to support myself? Or should I just lay down and rot? Any suggestions or positive wisdom?

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 1 month ago

Where are you meeting women?

I live on a university campus and I have seen one attractive woman in the past four months. Not talk to or interact with... I just saw one in passing.

I think online dating apps have changed female behavior. They have avoiding men down to an art and only want to interact through these apps.

I hang out at trendy coffee houses, malls, bars, and they are nowhere to be found.

What am I doing wrong? Is this the same with you? Where are they hiding?

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 1 month ago

This is the best glow-up I've seen posted here

Can anyone top this? I doubt this is just skin whitening and weight-loss. Did he do lower jaw surgery? Alarplasty?

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 1 month ago

Is meeting women through dating apps the only option in 2026?

I never see an attractive woman in public anymore. Everyday I go to coffee shops, malls, Whole Foods markets, bars, and if I do see even a half decent looking girl she is with a guy.

In three years of living on a university campus I did not see one attractive girl, let alone interact with one. Then I pulled an all-nighter to finish a paper I was working on and as I was walking around campus at 6am all I saw were pretty girls. I realized then that none of them live on campus, they take the earliest classes possible, then leave before twelve. If they do stay around it is only for female only social events and groups, female only gym.

They have avoiding men down to art. It is like they only want to interact with men through these apps where they have endless options.

I only match with 2's on Tinder so I was hoping to try and meet a girl irl but this seems futile.

Maybe I am looking in the wrong places? Is this the same with you? Any advice or suggestions?

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u/Quiet-Inspection527 — 1 month ago