Might be a goomba fallacy but my issue with the Cassidy vs Andrew TOYSNHK debate

Might be a goomba fallacy but my issue with the Cassidy vs Andrew TOYSNHK debate

I've seen a lot of people complain about Cassidy not having a clear motive to be TOYSNHK, but if Andrew specifically stated that he doesn't know why he's so vengeful to William, then why does Cassidy not having a clear answer disqualify them from being TOYSNHK?

(To be clear, I believe in CassidySpringlock and CassidyWorldPlayer so I do think she has a reason, but it's not confirmed so canonically it's unclear.)

If there's anything that's inaccurate to this comparison lmk

u/RazzyAxy — 5 hours ago
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I was a Charlie83 believer for so long but my timeline was contradictory all this time

My timeline hinges on the idea that Cassidy was putting BV back together in FNAF World, and that causes the formation of Shadow Freddy (I am a ShadowVictim truther)

But I also believe in MMPostCharlie and ShadowFootprints, meaning that if ShadowFreddy is already present before Charlie's death, Charlie's death has to take place after the MCI.

I was a Cassidy83 and CassidyPreMCI believer for so long, but now I have to rethink my timeline entirely-

u/RazzyAxy — 22 hours ago

Hot take but Rodger x Teagan (TeaCase) is the most hetslop ship in all of Dandy's World; possibly all of fiction.

The only reason this ship got so popular was because Rodger was viewed as a "traditionally masculine man" and Teagan as a "traditionally feminine woman" so naturally they have to be husband and wife (/s).

Their only interaction is one of the shortest in the games, being only 3 lines in total. Despite how lame this ship is, it got wildly popular, to the point that people would claim that characters like Glisten and Shrimpo were Rodger's literal children and that shipping them romantically was incestuous/pedophilic despite not being so.

This ship is the definition of hetslop. It is a nothing burger ship that is only popular because it was seen as "heteronormative". Its hetsloppiness only did more harm than good and I'm very glad this ship has been cast aside for yaoigems like ReflectiveDetective.

(Edit: Okay just to be clear I'm just stating my opinion. If you like TeaCase that's fine. That's your opinion. I just felt like stating my piece.

Also for all of you saying "ReflectiveDetective is just as bad!" You're all flat out wrong. They interact a ton more than Rodger and Teagan, to the point that their friendship is mentioned in separate conversations (Rodger + Eggson and Toodles + Glisten). There's even papers written by Glisten about his interactions with Rodger. Their ship has way more substance than TeaCase. Don't you dare drag it down to their level >:C)

u/RazzyAxy — 1 day ago

I had my younger sibling make an interpretation of FNAF lore to compare with my own (Repost to fix)

(REPOST BECAUSE I HAD INCORRECTLY ORGANIZED THEIR TIMELINE. HAPPIEST DAY TAKES PLACE AFTER FNAF 1, NOT BEFORE SISTER LOCATION IN THEIR INTERPRETATION. WHOOPS)

My sibling is into FNAF but isn't big on theorizing so they're not well versed on a lot of the lore, but I wanted to see what their interpretations were anyway and see how we differ.

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Some extra stuff I didn't include:

We both agree that Cassidy is the only Golden Freddy spirit.

We both agree that Glitchtrap is a branch of the Mimic.

We both agree that Fazbear Entertainment was established before the 1970s.

We both agree that the Toys weren't possessed and it was just AI going on the fritz.

My sibling thinks FNAF 4 is BV's dying moments and that the Nightmares are his trauma manifested into monsters. I think FNAF 4 is Mike stuck in his mind while Ennard controls him with the Nightmares being the MCI + BV (Fredmare Cassidy and Nightmare Victim) stuck inside his head due to the remnant he was injected with.

My sibling thinks the Shadow animatronics are hallucinations. I don't know what RWQ is just yet but I'm almost positive that Shadow Freddy is BV.

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This was really fun to do with my sibling and I hope you all find this interesting

(MY SIBLING IS NON-BINARY BTW, THEY/THEM PRONOUNS ONLY WHEN REFERRING TO THEM)

(They also said they weren't positive that Elizabeth was first because they think one of the neighborhood kids might be Elizabeth, which would make BV first in their timeline, but for now they're sticking with Eliza)

u/RazzyAxy — 3 days ago

I had my younger sibling make an interpretation of FNAF lore to compare with my own

My sibling is into FNAF but isn't big on theorizing so they're not well versed on a lot of the lore, but I wanted to see what their interpretations were anyway and see how we differ.

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Some extra stuff I didn't include:

We both agree that Cassidy is the only Golden Freddy spirit.

We both agree that Glitchtrap is a branch of the Mimic.

We both agree that Fazbear Entertainment was established before the 1970s.

We both agree that the Toys weren't possessed and it was just AI going on the fritz.

My sibling thinks FNAF 4 is BV's dying moments and that the Nightmares are his trauma manifested into monsters. I think FNAF 4 is Mike stuck in his mind while Ennard controls him with the Nightmares being the MCI + BV (Fredmare Cassidy and Nightmare Victim) stuck inside his head due to the remnant he was injected with.

My sibling thinks the Shadow animatronics are hallucinations. I don't know what RWQ is just yet but I'm almost positive that Shadow Freddy is BV.

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This was really fun to do with my sibling and I hope you all find this interesting

(MY SIBLING IS NON-BINARY BTW, THEY/THEM PRONOUNS ONLY WHEN REFERRING TO THEM)

u/RazzyAxy — 4 days ago

Could CEO Mrs. Afton have used remnant to make herself immortal? (ImmortalMrsAfton theory)

This is a bit of a crackpot theory that I've had rattling in my mind ever since Matpat's most recent FNAF timeline. I'll probably sound really fucking crazy and make claims with little to no evidence, but hear me out.

Ever since Matpat's timeline I've absolutely loved the idea of Mrs. Afton being the CEO. It fits together pretty well in my opinion. Although Matpat was missing a lot of crucial information, I don't think the recent games have anything contradicting this theory. In fact, with the idea of Gregory being a replacement for David/BV (despite not being a robot) under theories like GodDavid, it actually fits together even better than before. And considering that Mrs. Afton likely knew about MCM and all its drama (assuming that Trisha from SOTM is Mrs. Afton), it's perfectly logical that she could be using the Mimic and studying it to figure out how to put her family back together.

However, one big problem with the theory that people often bring up whenever the discussion of MrsAftonCEO is brought up is her age. Depending on when Mrs. Afton was born and when Security Breach takes place, she's likely pretty elderly, at the bare minimum being around 70 years old. If she's already at the retirement age, it's unlikely that she would find herself in such a high ranking position, right?

But another thing that Matpat brought up that I think everyone missed was the usage of FNAF AR. In his theory, Matpat suggests that Mrs. Afton mass produced the animatronics from Special Delivery in order to collect remnant, in a process similar to Circus Baby's Entertainment and Rentals. These animatronics would be rented out to parties, find people to kidnap, before extracting their remnant using the scooper underneath the building. This ties into RemnantPlex, the theory that the Mega Pizzaplex is actually powered by the stuff. But remnant is not only a source of power, as it is mostly known for housing the essence of life.

The frights series describes remnant as being able to "make already living beings more powerful through the power of positive memories." The novels also see William Afton trying to use remnant as a means to gain immortality (see WillImmortality), with Dead by Daylight also describing remnant as "the key to immortality". The games also show us remnant in action, with Michael being brought back to life from a seemingly fatal injury due to being injected with remnant. This shows that remnant is a key factor across the entire series.

Tying this all together, suddenly the issue of Mrs. Afton's age is no longer an issue. Assuming that William Afton's work was enough to go off of, its entirely possibly that she could've used this remnant to extend her own lifespan, possibly de-ageing herself if RemnantHealing or RemnantRegen are anything to go off of. This means that despite her age, she can still end up becoming the current CEO of Fazbear Entertainment.

I hope my deranged ramblings didn't make too little sense. There's barely any CEO information to go off of as of right now and there's basically no evidence suggesting this actually happened, so we'll probably see this get debunked in the future idk.

TLDR: It's possible Mrs. Afton could've used FNAF AR to gather remnant and use it to stop her own aging

u/RazzyAxy — 4 days ago