Hey, I am a young man. Do other men also get offended of objectification online? Like when men/boys in sports, movies or social media are objectified, nobody bats an eye and do not mention men as victims of sexualisation. Does this bother you and do you think newer generation "trained" to accept this via popular media as long as they are feeling wanted.
How to solve this sexual misandry?
I am personally tired of seeing objectification or sexualisation of men in social media. Their body, height, thoughts all of this are getting sexualised. This bothers me, do others think like me, and how to make "big" NGOs speak badly of male sexualisation, misandry. Because it is discriminatory and it puts down a lot of men. Although, I see a lot off boys in new generation are trained to accept this as being wanted, so positive
One of the most prominent male issue is being treated with sexism and feeling underappreciated. Gym and workout places are no exceptions. In many countries, there are special discounts for just women and not for men. In many gyms, male-only areas like changing rooms are being violated, in my own experience, female janitors do the cleaning even boys are half-naked there, which is non-exceptional, but nobody thinks about boys nor violation of their privacy by older women, therefore no voice is heard on this matter.
I visited gym where they said there are separate areas for men and women. However, when I went there not only they did not have men-only areas; however, everyone can train and check the general gym, women can use general one, but nobody can go to the second floor to check women-only gym floor, and of course men paid more for one gym, whereas women paid less for two. Therefore, even though gym is very popular, men and boys are neglected there, treated badly. In my opinion, this affects boys from childhood where they are trained not to stand up for their rights, which contributes to their uneasiness being neglected and sometimes even mocked.
When I was looking for gym in my country, I saw that in almost every one of them , subscription were different for men vs women, so same equipment but men paid more. Then I liked one gym, saw I asked lady whether I can look around and see whether I like it. They said there were 2 gym areas, one in ground floor , one in upper. When I went inside I saw women and men training together. I asked her where is second gym, she answered that it is on the upper floor, but you cannot look at that because it is women-only. Not only, they do not have male-only one, but they also use male-only as general that everyone can go and look, women can train even though separate women-only gym existing. I was disappointed and did not go to that gym.
Coming to my point, I think men-only gym or at least gym floors or areas are absolutely necessary, in many countries, men pay more than women do. They do not have separate gym, even if they are ashamed or uncomfortable to train around women, they do not have access to that. On top of that, many cleaners are women, that go around when men are half-naked and clean changing rooms(which happened to me) this is unacceptible.
People should try to use petition or advocate for these things. As you know many men use them, but even there they are treated as second-class citizens, and their needs and emotions are neglected monetarily, mentally, and humanely
I think many of the issues that men and boys face today, and we discuss on this sub are started from the notions we learned from childhood and experiences that we came across. Since childhood, from school to things that parents teach kids, villains or creep are usually men, and heroes that kids want to be are seen protecting girls from "villainous" men. If you are careful with observation, a father beating up a kid is seen much problematic than mother doing the same. Even many "Gender-hubs" only use cases where girls are oppressed. Therefore, lets say we build safe places for men to talk and prevent the abuse, getting them to talk is very hard on average. I think main method to prevent these types of things is to target future parents that they teach the kids to stand up and recognise the dirty and unpopular side of abuse too. We can do this by movies(very hard due to negative stuff), media(moderately difficulty), and by small communities(we can promote individually and it is easier option). What is your thoughts on this matter and methods of increasing the empathy gap towards men from childhood till the old age?
I wanna share double standards that I saw when pointing out abuse against kids, especially boys. At an early age, I saw when mothers openly "disciplined" their sons in the public place, reactions were normal. However, when a man(father) even raised his voice at his kid, everybody gave him strange looks. I think this double standards transition and ingrain in the minds of many that the abuse from a woman is disciplinary and not dangerous unlike that coming from a man. Secondly, I saw relatives of mothers that abused their kids warning them that their fathers might hit them, but did not interrupt about moms doing so. I think all of this affect how boys and girls are raised and respond to the abuse, even though domestic abuse lines would work perfectly, it would make male teen(lets say)report as they are trained to accept it. I think this transitions greatly into heterosexual relationship when a woman is abusive. That is why they do not recognise and people do not get irritated much when this happens to men, power of women vs that of men is fugazi. What are your thoughts of this, and can we stop this on institutional level?
Hi, I am a young man. I am glad to have found leftist sub and here we have many different people to provide institutional changes to advocacy. Especially, recently I have seen that most of the problems that we see today originate from how boys are raised and how they respond to mistreatment. I think , as usual, many NGOs and goverments dismiss it. This enviroment on reddt and other spheres can bolster the weaker side of human rights
My mother abuses me , especially in the teenage years hit me and forced me to do many things but I cannot do much. Whenever, we have argument she brings up how good mother she has been and neglects all the things that she has done. She says she is good mother since she bought me things(I wasnt a child who likes spending) and paid for my high-school education, when we fight she talks about I am crazy she has never hit me. The thing is because people dont like to call mothers abusive,even though they hit, my relatives from mothers side will side with her. Fathers side neglects me and Father is avoidant. Do you have any tips, I dont have money and studying right now. Therefore, not much, probably next year I will go to foreign uni for master(in my country if i dont follow education we are forced to go to military). How to survive one year and let go of the fact that my mom or her relatives will never accept abuse
Wanted to share my journey too. This week I have took ccna, even though I was ill going to the exam, good work on labs helped me a lot . My advice is that as somebody who didnt spend one penny on mock-exams , Just watch Jeremy's IT LAB and do free tests. That is it, I postponed doing complete labs till last days, but determination on last days helped me. Main mistake that I made was neglecting some question types that I saw once but did not memorize and checked them wrong in exam. So watch Jeremy+ practice labs(mainly vlans, routing, acl) and check out specific question types. Now I am just unemployed guy who is looking for entry-level job.
Sadly, many boys and men are abandoned in war zones. It is very clear that nobody in EU or NGOs care about the male victims from Ukraine or Russia that either are refugees or do not wanna fight and seek their human right of not fighting. Many members of different parliaments are purposely neglecting them. In quora, I wrote a comment under some self-identified popular feminist user, who said that people who complain about male victims do not care about them but rather wanna score points against feminism on Internet. What is aura around this topic in your country?
My comment :
What solutions can be implemented in Europe for this matter
Do you get somebody promoting violence against men and boys as a joke(discriminatory joke), laugh at male victims, or promote this kind of opinion in front of you(not social media) . What do you do in that situation? Did criticizing or reporting help?
Hey, I wanna be active on this or related subs; however, I dont know whether there are some kinds of groups or people that I can join and support them. I live in a country with limited social support funds or help-platforms(all to women) .If there are any that people who advocate not just in reddit but active on more substantial platforms?
It is satisfactory seeing all people here regardless of their identify(men,women,non-binary and etc) and sexual orientation on this sub, what more can we do to strenghen more spesifically with short-term and long-term certain goals?
Hi, I have been looking at men/boys getting abused and people's reaction to it.I think that main problem arises from raising boys. From early age, they are shown that being a hero is protecting girls from X, "never hit a woman" , or sth like this. I think these ideas and scars live with then throughout their lives.I will give two examples:
2)Man getting abused by woman in a cafe(presumable his girlfriend).After she hits him several times, he hits her back. People in the comments talking like"equality or equal rights, equal lefts" and etc. You can say yes they talk about equality , what is the problem?
The problem is actually even here where woman started hitting few times first, many people's reaction was some kind of defending man who did self-defense as if there are in court with the statement( equal rights , equal lefts).Even here which is basic self-defense their point is not whether men are getting abused, but it is can an abused man hit a woman back, because from childhood it is ingrained in their brains that "never hit a woman "phrase. Thereforr, they seek justification or some kind of dilemma is happening in their frontal lobe
My question is do you think we can raise boys not to be like these , or do you do something to free people from this injustice
So, todays topics is Turkey
If u Turkish(me not) hit me up for more info exchange. In Turkey, there is a woman going from city to city for sexually groping ,kissing,touching dozens of men and although her face was visible for months now, obviously as victims were male, and assaulter was female, she was not caught(there is arumor she is under investigation) and comments coming mostly from women but some were literally laughing not even sarcastically to this.
By the way, "so-called" equality movement didnt do anything, but some members of it were seen pushing male relatives from carrying a grave of a dead women just because the killer was a man by the way a few months ago. By the way, few days ago 3 men held one man hostage in subway until police arrived because he took woman's photos and obviously no joking comments and surprisingly praising comments are from women too
Also, there are few stories too very discriminating , I will try to be active once a week
Greetings to all people reading this, my question is that - it will sound a bit depressing- do you think change is possible? Like there were many forums, websites or people doing this advocacy in late 90s or early 00s; however, it has mostly failed. I am relatively new to reddit communities and probably will be active on this matter. For this post, I just wanna say based on today's world, do you think people would protest, fight for men and boys' rights? As I have seen, two categories exist:
1)People that set bar very low(it is not criticism directly to them)- For instance,I have seen posts that genuinely saw world cup 2026 men crying or different people supporting each other as a progress which I disagree.
2)People that know all of major problems and want mid to big NG organizations supporting it but obstacles prevent it.
I know this categories or my thoughts might be confusing as I have a lot on mind, despite this I think that if we want at least some changes, drastic measures should be taken into account(getting boys protest inclusively for their rights, reacting harshly to objectification/sexualisation of boys, teaching boys early about getting sexually assaulted and supporting each other , and etc.)
What methods do you think should be implemented at the moment and can we make more people regardless of how they identify stand up for men and boys?
