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During the most recent Card Game layout the back of the board is facing the audience with the front facing away from them. Drew usually can give a verbal play by play but how is the audience visually able to see what the current price is displayed as well as the car price (in the new format the car price is no longer verbally read as was the case before)? The board layout just recently changed since the "Carey's Car Club" format and I believe the first format had the board at an angle where the audience could see the screen.

I'm pretty sure it was a repeat from the most recent Wayne Brady LMAD season but I missed it. I'm pretty sure if I saw It I would've remembered it.

A contestant had a chance to win a car but it wasn't one of their usual games like Tic Tac Deal, Race to the Finish, Accelerator, Winfall, etc. For some reason the contestant had to guess the length of the car to the nearest inch within four inches. What Wayne and the producers weren't counting on was the contestant had a tape measure in his pocket that was that long! Wayne and the rest of the people were so shocked that they just let him do it! Needless to say he got it exactly right! I pretty much guarantee they'll never use this deal again!

Recently the 2027 AP exam schedule has been made official.

The AP Calculus AB/BC exam is set for Monday, May 10 during Session 1 which is morning for most (very few places the exams will actually start in the afternoon).

Looking back at previous exam schedules, the AP Calculus exam has been the Monday morning exam during Week 2 every year since 2022.

I would think of all days Monday would be the worst to take an exam, especially first thing in the morning. I realize someone would get stuck with it but why does calculus always have to get stuck with a Monday morning exam? Couldn't they be fairer and screw other exams instead? Also if we have a math background shouldn't we be fighting for the "better" time slots and stick the "less important" exams like literature with the Monday morning exam?

At least it's not affecting performance. Also it could be worse, we could be always getting Monday of the first week. Would having the exam the first week but not Monday be worse or better? You'd have fewer days to prepare but at least it's not a Monday morning.

Here's my guess for the Buckeyes' remaining game times.

Game times vary because the Big Ten has contracts with three different networks (FOX, CBS, and NBC) with most of each network's game primarily airing in a particular slot (FOX noon ET, CBS 3:30pm, NBC 7:30pm).

In 2024, Ohio State played seven games at noon ET including their last six games and five of their home games. Six of the seven noon ET kickoffs were on FOX (I affectionally refer to these as "Big Nooner"s). However, in 2025 OSU played five noon games with three at home. Ohio State played as many home night games as home noon games (three each).

While the three networks take turns as to who get the top pick each week, FOX is allowed to have the first pick in their choice of three weeks each season before CBS or NBC is allowed to make any picks. Since Ohio State games usually are among the highest rated games of the season, they usually fall to FOX. If Ohio State plays any top team (conference or non conference) there's a fairly good chance it's on FOX. When OSU plays TTUN it's a given it's on FOX at noon ET as the game has been on FOX every year since FOX started covering the Big Ten (with the exception of the pandemic year).

Another factor since the Pacific Time Zone teams joined the Big Ten is that these teams can't host noon ET teams which eliminates them as possibilities for FOX's Big Nooners and gives Ohio State more of a chance to be chosen even if they weren't the top choice of the week. This season, OHIO at Ohio State was chosen as a Big Nooner. In 2024 PURDUE at Ohio State was a Big Nooner. FOX would rather have OSU play a weak opponent than a game involving two middle of the pack Big Ten teams.

On the other hand, CBS and NBC do get first picks some weeks which allow Ohio State to appear on those networks (assuming they are the top pick those weeks).

So throwing out the first three weeks and The Game which game times and networks have been finalized, we have

Sept. 26: Illinois

Oct. 3: at Iowa

Oct. 10: Maryland (Homecoming, no earlier than 3:30pm)

Oct. 17: at Indiana

Oct. 31: at USC

Nov. 7: Oregon

Nov. 14: Northwestern

Nov. 21: at Nebraska

The top three most valuable Big Ten games SHOULD be Ohio State's games vs. TTUN, Indiana, and Oregon which would put all three of these games on FOX as Big Nooners. But FOX did reveal Oklahoma at TTUN as a Big Nooner which makes me believe they stupidly wasted one of their top three picks on that game. That would mean FOX can only take one of Indiana and Oregon before CBS and NBC get to pick. If I'm FOX, Indiana is the defending champion and FOX got about 18 million viewers for last year's Big Ten Championship between the two teams. I'd have to believe that game is going to FOX. CBS and NBC alternate as to who picks first after FOX's first three. Last year NBC got to pick Oregon-Penn State so it should be CBS's turn and they steal Oregon-Ohio State. I can pretty much guarantee that game won't be on NBC as they've already scheduled Miami-Notre Dame that night.

So if you're NBC with the next pick the next most valuable Ohio State game has to be USC as the two teams have yet to play a Big Ten game and you get the Los Angeles market.

Let's say CBS has the next pick (speculation). Using just OSU games, I would think at Iowa would be the most valuable (at Nebraska could also be an option). Then if NBC goes next they can't take Nov. 21 as they also have a Notre Dame game so Sept. 26 is the pick.

After that, the remaining weeks are a crapshoot.

Now on Sept. 26 is interesting. There are two other decent Big Ten games that week, TTUN at Iowa and Oregon at USC. From a non biased point of view, I don't know if Illibuck is the clear cut top pick that week, I'd actually lean towards Oregon at USC. So Illinois-Ohio State probably could air in any time slot and the chances of it airing on FOX increase because we know Oregon at USC won't. One interesting wrinkle is ABC/ESPN scheduled Texas at Tennessee for noon ET. If FOX knew that game was scheduled for noon ET it might have decided to let CBS and NBC pick ahead of them and save their priority picks (#1 and #2) for later weeks.

Illinois-Ohio State Prediction: 3:30pm, CBS (NBC takes Oregon-USC) - Confidence: Low

On Oct. 3, I think this is one of CBS's priority picks. Certainly the game would be attractive to all three networks. There is another top West Coast game, Washington at USC, which takes away an option for FOX. Using the networks are looking at the SEC schedule, this is one of the worst weeks for them and if you're CBS and NBC you want to prioritize this week since your game doesn't get beaten by one of their top games like Georgia at Alabama (which is what happened last year to Oregon at Penn State).

Ohio State-Iowa Prediction: 3:30pm, CBS - Confidence: Middle

Ohio State knows they will be afternoon or evening on Oct. 10. All Big Ten teams have to play one conference game at home and Maryland is the only Big Ten team they play that didn't play in a bowl last season. The only other possibility for a BTN game I can see is Northwestern on Nov. 14. FOX might want this game on BTN because Northwestern-Ohio State is a potential Big Nooner while Md/OSU isn't. In SEC action, this week has Oklahoma vs. Texas and Georgia at Alabama, two of the biggest SEC games of the season. If I'm CBS or NBC, I probably don't want to waste high picks this week, especially with OSU playing Maryland. Other Big Ten games this week are USC at Penn State, Indiana at Nebraska, and Oregon at UCLA.

Maryland-Ohio State Prediction: 3:30pm, BTN - Confidence: Middle (Fairly confident it'll be on BTN, not sure about time)

If FOX didn't waste a priority pick on Oklahoma-TTUN, I would say there's a 100% chance OSU-IU would be a Big Nooner. Since they did, I'll say there's an 80% chance.

Ohio State-Indiana Prediction: noon, FOX - Confidence: High

The Ohio State-USC game just screams NBC prime time Halloween. The SEC schedule that day is pretty pathetic. If I'm NBC I'd be more worried about a potential Game 7 of the World Series that day. Last year it drew over 26 million viewers and it involved the Los Angeles Dodgers! It's one thing to have a World Series Game 7 but to have the Dodgers vs. USC would be NBC's nightmare. Still, NBC can't pass up OSU-USC. If they actually did, FOX can't take it so it would go to CBS.

Ohio State-USC Prediction: 7:30pm, NBC - Confidence: High

Oregon-Ohio State Nov. 7 should be on FOX but the pick likely falls to CBS. There is some chance FOX chose this game over OSU-IU but I would say it's doubtful. This likely becomes the most watched CBS Big Ten game since they started airing Big Ten games.

Oregon-Ohio State Prediction: 3:30pm, CBS - Confidence: High

OSU fans would say their game is the best game of the week even if they play Ohio. I'm not sure if the networks would agree. Northwestern-Ohio State Nov. 14 is likely one of the games that won't be looked at as a priority for the networks. If Maryland-Ohio State isn't a BTN game, Northwestern-Ohio State would be. If Md/OSU is a BTN game, NW/OSU is an option for FOX, CBS, and NBC. Other games this week are TTUN at Oregon, USC at Indiana, and Minnesota at Penn State. If Northwestern is bad this year, I wouldn't be surprised if this game falls to BTN or Peacock if BTN took the Maryland game.

Northwestern-Ohio State Prediction: noon, FOX - Confidence: Low

On November 21, NBC isn't an option leaving CBS and FOX. The other top game this week is Indiana at Washington.

Ohio State-Nebraska Prediction: noon, FOX - Confidence: High

In 2024 I think Ohio State got stuck with a lot of Big Nooners because they had a couple of games that weren't #1 picks (Marshall? Purdue?). In addition, that was the year Indiana broke out. I imagine CBS and NBC probably didn't think IU was going to be that good and prioritized other weeks instead and FOX just got lucky that week. 2025 saw more of the top Ohio State games spread out (CBS and NBC each got two Buckeye conference games after each getting just one in 2024). For those of you who hate Ohio State getting stuck with Big Nooners, be glad FOX game TTUN one of them this year because that's one less for OSU. Don't forget they sucked in 2024 which caused them not to be taken by FOX which meant they had to take more OSU games to make up for it. Of course we want TTUN to go 0-12 but the better they are the more attractive they are to FOX...

When will your favorite team play specific games this fall? For most of your games the decision for each game won't be made until 12 days before a specific Saturday (rarely as few as 6 days ahead). But I'm just play around here.

It's worth noting the three major networks (FOX, CBS, and NBC) take turns as to who gets the top pick each week (and I assume who picks second and third). These picks aren't made public but it is fun to guess. FOX gets the first three picks each season. It is assumed two of these three were used for Week 2 (Oklahoma at Michigan) and Week 13 (Michigan at Ohio State). The first three week broadcasting assignments have been assigned so I will skip those.

Week 4 (Sept. 26):

FOX: Michigan at Iowa

CBS: Illinois at Ohio State

NBC: Oregon at USC (top pick)

It looks like all three networks will get good games this week. There are two good games in that other conference, Texas at Tennessee (early) and Oklahoma at Georgia.

Week 5 (Oct. 3):

FOX: Michigan at Minnesota

CBS: Ohio State at Iowa (top pick)

NBC: Washington at USC

I can see CBS (or NBC) using a high pick on this week with OSU-Iowa on the schedule.

Week 6 (Oct. 10):

FOX: USC at Penn State (top pick)

CBS: UCLA at Oregon

NBC: Indiana at Nebraska

The Red River Rivalry and Georgia-Alabama are this week. If I'm CBS or NBC I wouldn't waste a high pick this week, especially with USC-Penn State the likely top game.

Week 7 (Oct. 17):

FOX: Ohio State at Indiana (top pick)

CBS: Penn State at Michigan

NBC: Nebraska at Oregon

I'm guessing FOX used it's remaining top three picks on this week. Should one of OSU or IU tank, PSU-UM could be taken as a backup. Again, I think all three networks should get good games. In that other conference we have Alabama-Tennessee and another game this week is Notre Dame-BYU.

Week 8 (Oct. 24):

FOX: Oregon at Illinois

CBS: Indiana at Michigan (top pick)

NBC: Iowa at Minnesota

Outside of Ohio State games, IU-UM could be one of the most valuable.

Week 9 (Oct. 31):

FOX: Minnesota at Indiana

CBS: Washington at Nebraska

NBC: Ohio State at USC (top pick)

This is OSU's first Big Ten game vs. USC and I have it as NBC's top pick. It's also a very weak week for that other conference. Their best games are Georgia-Florida and Auburn-Mississippi and neither can be scheduled for prime time.

Week 10 (Nov. 7):

FOX: Michigan State at Michigan

CBS: Oregon at Ohio State (top pick)

NBC: No Big Ten Game (Miami at Notre Dame)

If I were FOX I would have taken this with one of my top three picks and given up Oklahoma-Michigan. But assuming FOX used a top three pick on Oklahoma-Michigan they'll have to give up one of the two games and IMO OSU-IU is more valuable. Penn State at Washington is this week which makes things interesting since FOX can't put that at noon ET.

Week 11 (Nov. 14):

FOX: USC at Indiana

CBS: Minnesota at Penn State

NBC: Michigan at Oregon (top pick)

A decent set of games but no really valuable game.

Week 12 (Nov. 21):

FOX: Ohio State at Nebraska (top pick)

CBS: Indiana at Washington

NBC: No Big Ten game (SMU at Notre Dame)

At least I have a 1 in 2 chance of guessing who has top pick this week instead of 1 in 3.

Week 13 (Nov. 28):

FOX: Michigan at Ohio State (top pick, game time/network announced)

CBS: USC at UCLA

NBC: Washington at Oregon

The two West Coast games were on the opposite networks in 2025.

Would you take a different game if you had the top pick (try to remain unbiased)? Are there any games unlisted that should be listed? Note that Friday games have already been assigned.

I'm assuming the NBA schedule was delayed to see where Lebron was going to play. Now that he has decided to play for our Sixers it seems like a lock we'll be playing on Christmas. The only question is who and where? Certainly a home Christmas game in Philly will be great but LeBron "Homecoming" game story games would be interesting nationally.

Potential opponents:

Knicks: The defending champions and a side story of Brunson, Bridges, and Hart having played for Villanova. The Knicks and 76ers have played on Christmas 13 times, more than any other two teams have played each other, the most recent in 2022 although only twice since 1978. With the Villanova storyline having the game here in Philly would make sense. The catch is New York has hosted a Christmas game the last four seasons and hasn't been away for Christmas since 2012 when they played in LA at the Lakers. Maybe this star studded team will be the team that gets the NBA to force the Knicks on the road. It also hurts the fact that the Knicks are the defending champs. The last time the defending champions didn't host a Christmas game were the 2013 Miami Heat who played at the Lakers.

Lakers: The obvious storyline is LeBron facing off vs. his former team and possibly against his son Bronny. Again there are a lot more reasons for this game to be out in Los Angeles than Philly. It would be a way bigger story to have LeBron go "home" to LA as opposed to the game in Philly. The Lakers are also a frequent Christmas day host although they do play more road games (they were at Dallas in 2022 and at Golden State 2024). The Lakers have played on Christmas every year since 2000! It's not a question as to whether or not the Lakers will play on Christmas but whom.

Celtics: Jaylen Brown faces his former team (as does Paul George assuming he's still relevant). The 76ers/Celtics rivalry is still a huge rivalry as well. Compared to the Knicks or Lakers I don't see the NBA wanting to have the Celtics at home so the Celtics are likely the best chance the 76ers would have of hosting a Christmas game. On the other hand seeing Jaylen Brown go back to Boston would be a big story too.

Heat: You would have another Lebron reunion angle, this one with Miami where he won his first NBA Championship. You would also be able to feature Giannis Antetokounmpo as well. Might make an argument to have it in Miami but not as much and the matchup kind of pales in comparison to the top three as the Sixers and Heat don't have the same historical rivalry as the 76ers havs with the Knicks, Lakers, or Celtics. I'm sure most of us would be disappointed if our Christmas game came against Miami.

Cavaliers: Again, it would be Lebron's real Homecoming but the Cavaliers, although a top Easten Conference contender, aren't exactly a star studded team.

If the 76ers are an NBA priority we should be playing the Knicks although the Lakers certainly could work too.

Assuming it's the Knicks I would see the Lakers playing Dallas (Luka Doncic playing his former team not to mention Cooper Flagg), a rematch of the Western Conference Finals with the Thunder and Spurs (SGA vs. Wemby), and Minnesota vs. Denver (Ant Man vs. Jokic).

If we're playing the Lakers I'd keep OKC vs. SA and Wolves vs. Nuggets while the Knicks would host the Heat.

I was watching a recent episode of NBC Password. It turns out Wayne Brady was buzzed for giving "perro" as a clue and the rule was it wasn't an English word. Of course perro is Spanish for dog. I didn't even study Spanish in high school and I knew that. I was somewhat surprised that you couldn't give foreign words as clues. Is the foreign words rule just the current version or was that the rule in the Ludden and Convy versions? Should common foreign words be allowed as clues? Of course the definition of common would be debatable. A contestant or celebrity could argue a word is in an unknown language and it would be harder to check multiple languages but why would you use a word your partner wouldn't understand anyway? Wayne wouldn't have said "perro" if he didn't think his partner would know it was a dog (the password was chihuahua so Wayne was thinking Spanish would help his partner get the word).

The season's official introduction premiered during the July 15th episode. The format of each houseguest being shown doing a unique individual pose debuted during Season 16 with exceptions for Season 22 (pictures) and 24 (no intro ever made). I'm not counting celebrity seasons.

The order of each winner in this era:

16: Derek: 6th

17: Steve: 3rd

18: Nicole: 1st

19: Josh: 11th

20: Kaycee: 6th

21: Mickie/Jackson: 13th

23: Unsure

25: Jag: Originally 4th, 3rd after Luke was removed (Corrected)

26: Chelsea: 6th

27: Ashley: 11th

It looks like the 6th spot is the money spot as three winners of the nine seasons surveyed had the 6th intro. Using this logic, our Season 28 winner? >!Rome:) !<11th also had two winners so maybe it's >!Latrice!<?

Are there any "bad" slots? I'd have to go through all of the videos to see first boots, non jury, etc.

How much electrical knowledge do you need?

5	Electrical Engineering Major
4	Computer Engineering major (But Specialize In Software)
3	Physics Major (But Specialize In Other Physics Areas)
2	Mechanical Engineering Major
1	Math/Statistics major

Here's an exercise for Big Ten fans.

You can travel to one Big Ten game a week. Budget and the ability to get tickets isn't a factor here. You do have the following constraints.

The games have to either be a game hosted by a Big Ten school or a Big Ten Conference game at a neutral site (non conference neutral site games aren't allowed, non conference games hosted by the Big Ten are).

You can only travel to each Big Ten school/stadium once the entire season.

You can only see each Big Ten team a maximum of twice the entire season (if you see one of their home games you can only see one of their road games but if you don't see a home game you can see two of their road games, I don't believe there are any neutral site Big Ten conference games this season other than the Big Ten Championship Game).

Here's my list:

Sept. 5: Boise State at Oregon, Eugene, OR

Sept. 12: Oklahoma at Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI

Sept. 19: Virginia Tech at Maryland, College Park, MD

Sept. 26: Oregon at USC, Los Angeles, CA

Oct. 3: Penn State at Northwestern, Evanston, IL

Oct. 10: USC at Penn State, State College, PA

Oct. 17: Ohio State at Indiana, Bloomington, IN

Oct. 24: Iowa at Minnesota, Minneapolis, MN

Oct. 31: Washington at Nebraska, Lincoln, NE

Nov. 7: Rutgers at Wisconsin, Madison, WI

Nov. 13: Illinois at UCLA, Pasadena, CA

Nov. 21: Iowa at Illinois, Champaign, IL

Nov. 28: Michigan at Ohio State, Columbus, OH

Dec. 5: Big Ten Championship Game, Indianapolis, IN

You have to start with The Game and then the rematch of last year's championship game. Michigan hosting Oklahoma is a pretty big one and saves me from having to pick another game that week. I also like Oregon-USC and USC-Penn State.

I went to both Illinois and Penn State so I wanted to get home and away for both schools and both are in major metropolitan areas where I have family (the Northwestern game is NW's first game at new Ryan Field). I also have family who graduated from Maryland and Wisconsin.

What's your list?

My challenge to you is to come up with the dream SEC season road trip where you go to one SEC game each week with the following conditions.

You can only visit each SEC stadium once for the entire season.

You can choose neutral site games only if it is a conference game (non conference games are only allowed if they are hosted by an SEC school). Oklahoma-Texas and Florida-Georgia are acceptable, Baylor-Auburn isn't. These games don't count as home games for either school even if one is designated as the "home" team.

You can only see any SEC school a maximum of two times for the entire season.

With 13 weeks you can go to a maximum of 13 of the 16 SEC schools (less if you choose one or more of the non conference games).

My picks:

Sept. 5: Clemson at LSU, Baton Rouge, LA

Sept. 12: Ohio State at Texas, Austin, TX

Sept. 19: LSU at Mississippi, Oxford, MS

Sept. 26: Oklahoma at Georgia, Athens, GA

Oct. 3: Florida at Missouri, Columbia, MO

Oct. 10: Georgia at Alabama, Tuscaloosa, AL

Oct. 17: Alabama at Tennessee, Knoxville, TN

Oct. 24: Tennessee at South Carolina, Columbia, SC

Oct. 31: Missouri at Arkansas, Fayetteville, AR

Nov. 7: Arkansas at Auburn, Auburn, AL

Nov. 14: Mississippi at Oklahoma, Norman, OK

Nov. 21: Vanderbilt at Florida, Gainesville, FL

Nov. 27: Texas at Texas A&M, College Station, TX

By week:

Sept. 5: Was thinking of using Alabama-LSU as my LSU home game but thought this was a decent backup and wanted to go to the Third Saturday in October.

Sept. 12: About as big of a non conference game as you can get, a fairly easy choice for Texas's home game.

Sept 19: The Kiffin Bowl is pretty obvious.

Sept. 26: Oklahoma-Georgia is pretty big.

Oct. 3: Most of the top teams had better games to see and nobody wants to see Kentucky-South Carolina other than the schools involved.

Oct. 10: Georgia-Alabama. You have the last two teams to win the National Championship out of the SEC and a rematch of the SEC Championship Game. It's the first game I chose.

Oct. 17: Alabama-Tennessee is one of the biggest SEC rivalries there is.

Oct. 24: Could be talked into Vanderbilt-Kentucky here but Tennessee is a bigger name.

Oct. 31: No one else left.

Nov. 7: Chance to get Auburn on the schedule.

Nov. 14: Texas A&M-Oklahoma would've prevented me from getting a game at Florida so Mississippi-Oklahoma will have to do.

Nov. 21: My "best" chance to get to Florida. Four of UF's other home games are vs. Clemson-LSU, Ohio State-Texas, Oklahoma-Georgia, and Georgia-Alabama. Their other home game was vs. Oklahoma which means I'd either have to give up a home game at Oklahoma or give up Oklahoma-Georgia.

Nov. 27: Texas-Texas A&M is a huge rivalry to top off the season.

Missouri-Arkansas is the only game that doesn't have one of the SEC's "blue bloods". I'm not too thrilled with Florida-Missouri, Tennessee-South Carolina, or Arkansas-Auburn but the goal is to see different SEC schools or else I'd just go to Alabama or Georgia every week. At least I was able to avoid Mississippi State altogether!

Dumb Question:

In my calculus book the formulas sin^2 x = (1 - cos 2x) / 2 and cos^2 x = (1 + cos 2x) /2 are referred to as HALF angle formula. But they are derived from the DOUBLE angle formulas for cos 2x (cos 2x = 2 cos^2 x - 1 or cos 2x = 1 - 2 sin ^2 x). Why are these formulas referred to as half angle and not double angle?

>!I usually criticize TPIR for making it hard for contestants to win.!<

>!Today they made it so obvious for a contestant to win and win big.!<

>!Most Expensive for three trips: Cook Islands, Germany, and Canada. !<

>!If you know where the Cook Islands are it would've been obvious it would be the furthest away and most expensive, Even if you didn't an island trip has a good chance to be more expensive than a land trip. Even if you thought the Cook Islands was in the Caribbean or Atlantic it's a 50-50 for three trips totaling more than the average car! !<

>!I probably would've done One Wrong Price for three trips or if it were three trips make it three close together places like three European cities. !<

Of the days of the week which is the best day to take an AP exam? Worst? (I'm under the assumption of five days in the US).

I would think Thursday would be the best, Wednesday second, Tuesday third, Friday second worst, and Monday worst. I have noticed that this year Calculus was Monday and I believe it has been Monday for several years. If the College Board were nice they'd put the more popular exams on the "better" days and the less popular exams on the "worse" days. Obviously some exams have to be on the "bad" days.

Also, some exams are better to have early and some are better to have late. An exam with more material to study should be later while an exam with less material should be earlier. I was told from this board "senior" exams are often scheduled earlier to help seniors whose graduations or other senior activities might be before the end of the exam period. What exams would be better earlier and what exams would be better later? I noticed AP Physics 1 was early this year when I seem to remember it being late in past years and AP Physics 1 is notorious for being difficult with a low % of students scoring 3 or above.

I doubt Trevor is reading this but these are ideas on how to improve the 2026-27 schedule.

I just finished watching Pathfinder on a Barker Era episode on Buzzr. They were still playing for a 4 digit car. This was in 1989. The choices for the first # were 2, 5, 6, and 9. By then it seemed like no cars sold for less than $7,000 so 9 was the obvious first choice and the contestant easily got it right on the first turn and eventually won the car.

Meanwhile I saw a recent You Tube Pathfinder playing. The four choices for the second # were 4, 5, 6, and 7! No wonder it's harder to win Pathfinder today. If they made the second # obvious or even if they had one or two of the #'s obviously wrong the chances of contestants winning would be a lot higher.

They could easily make Pathfinder a more winnable game. I guess they don't want it to be.