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Kei keeps on insisting now that Suzune must feel something for Kiyo and doesnt even sound too bad with that idea.

But when do you all think did she had that idea in her mind ?

Because during her relationship with him, she never seemed to be jealous or worried about Horikita.

About Kiyo liking Horikita or Horikita liking Kiyo.

So do you think that she had her little tiny suspicion ever during her relationship with him ?

It doesnt require much for a crush and no shade to the other girls.

But Suzune and him were literally friends for awhile, bantering and teasing around, until she realized that she got slightly nervous/shy around him.

How do ya'll think he would manage ?

Mentally and physically.

And how would his relationship be with the other prisoners ?

Some questions for his mental limit:

As of right now in the LN, If WR or whatever requires it, would he be able to be sent as a hitman to kill somebody or do worse ? As in mentally, would that leave him completly cold ?

Or if asked differently, in what type of serious situation where lifes are at stake, would he actually be mentally affected ?

Or where would his limit be ?

It might be nothing memorable, but his playful/flirty moments with other girls were quite interesting.

Especially Maria.

When he told her not to bully Shibe or when he dragged her by her hair at the cruise game.

Or Shiho, during the friendless game, when he acted like he doesnt know her.

It might be pure entertainement but whats interesting to me is the comparison to the characters that he gets often comared with, lets say Light or Ayanokoji, maybe even Lelouch.

Even in these shady characters, there mostly was a little line about women that wasnt really crossed.

Or wasnt really shown. Any too rough, too sexual playfulness or anything like that. Nothing too unhinged with girls.

When Yuuichi in the anime grabbed Maria and pulled her to him at the Hide snd Seek game, i remember the surprise i felt. Because the story really doesnt shy Yuuichi away from even that territory.

Not from sensuality, he seems not at all uncomfortable, contrary, he initiates these tiny moments.

And when he seemed unhinged with women, he also didint really look uncomfortable.

It definetly is a trait that i noticed.

Since Light has no real game or interest in women, Ayanokoji studies love like a textbook just imitating, Lelouch was actually a better comparison, but i wouldnt say that he was as unhinged with girls as Yuuichi.

My honest guess, my man would hover over her like a fly to the point Suzune gets irritated💀

He is just protective like that

What do you think about this idea ?

Would they make a good pair ?

Now in the LN.

Should he either get told or figuere it out.

How would he react ?

Honestly, the answers could go in various different ways.

Johan is undoubfully very intelligent and talented.

Just as a guy even, very educated and well-rounded.

And while he certainly does manipulate and stage, people exaggerate when they think Johan could "manipulate everyone"

That he is this genius manipulator that invades your mind and makes you do this or that.

Johan specifically preyed on vulnerable people. On children and mentally instable adults.

Using their greatest weakness against them.

People who would be considered "stable" ( whatever the hell that means) wouldnt be so easily swayed by him.

Contrary, Johan would unsettle them at some point. Especially if he has backround knowledge of you like in the case of Richard.

Richard was exremly vulnerable but imagine the situation if he wasnt. A random guy knocking on your door at night, inviting you outside, taking you to a bar for a drink,then proceeds to walk you to some roof.

Its not universally genius. Many people would stop before they'd even come that far with him.

Realistically, Johan always walks on a thin line between magnetic allure and unsettlement.

He might give an energy of a kind, calm, collected, non-judgemental, peaceful, angelic young man.

But this image can also be quickly taking a turn whenever his facial expression changes.

Or he begins to ramble and talk about Monsters, Names and etc.

Point is, Johan isnt as skilled as many give him credit for.

Especially lets say, if his target was a woman at night. A woman in the middle of the night might clock serial killer vibes of him faster.

The story wants us to question his true motivation until the end. Keeps making us question, if he is just performing or if he is genuine.

Personally, i actually never thought for a second that he isnt a real friend.

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While never hating Kei, i do remember her relationship with Ayanokoji made her look quite clingy/cringey to me. The way she acted. She just seemed like she is living a little in a shoijo manga world.

And while i expected her to be more emotional over the break up, she actually looked more grounded.

And no, not because we ship Kiyozune. And no, not because she asked Horikita about Ayanokoji.

I dont want to give Kiyotaka credit for using her but she legitimately seems more collected and surprisngly not as fragile as one might have expected.

Let me say it like this:

Neither is Suzune incompetent nor is she some super leader.

Wasnt her point of character the fact that she gradually grows into a better version of herself ?

She became more and more competent and better over time.

And one of her flaws at the very beginning was her isolation and solo thinking. So for her to depend on others is actually improvement if anything.

And also for her to depend and take advice from someone ( Ayanokoji) who she knows can help and is competent and reliable, is just logical and right for a leader. People call it "getting carried" but its just using a good tool that you know will work.

Thats not a flaw.

I will agree fully that she isnt some "genuius super leader" like some want to insist, but she is very capable and determined for a leader.

I disagree with both extremes, that she is perfect or incompetent.

If anything, she is the most realistic.