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About Suzune's feelings

What I like about Kiyozune’s relationship is that Koji didn’t include Suzune as one of his love experiments, and we can really see that he genuinely thinks of her as a friend. Although he left her and transferred to another class, we still don’t know his actual reason for doing so.

But what if Koji finds out about Suzune’s feelings for him? What do you think will happen? Do you think he will take advantage of them? Gosh, I’m scared for our girl if that happens. Do you think Suzune will confess?

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u/Unusual_Bit_8458 — 2 hours ago

Is this part of Koji's bigger plan?

Ichinose saw both of (Kiyohiyori).

Since there's no full context....ain't no way Koji didn't realize ichinose, right? How come? Is this purposely done?

Is this part of Koji’s bigger plan?

Purposely lose for the sake of hiyori? Making her an easy target? Not only Ichinose, his own class too. Making Ryuen think that he found Koji's real weakness..? Why i feel like Koji is putting small things everything until everything finally connected?

I'm questioning everything here...The way everything is spiralling around, it seems like the hints will be connected soon? Hints has been thrown everywhere.

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u/Nearby_Ship5811 — 5 hours ago

Why do people say “Suzune deserves better” when asked about KiyoZune?

I agree that the current Ayanokoji is not good enough for her, but don’t you think that if they do end up together, he will have changed by then or at least have a soft spot for her?

no hate to anyone who says that btw

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u/Slight-Amount-1414 — 8 hours ago

As of right now, do you still wish for Suzune to be with Kyiotaka ?

With everything tht is happening currently, how do you want Suzune to handle Ayanokoji ? And how do you wish she handles her own feelings for him ?

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u/ShowAffectionate7350 — 16 hours ago

Im quite dissatisfied with Koji's development in V4 (based on spoilers)

Yeah, i know I should wait for whole volume but let me rant a little bit.

First of all, let's talk about Ichinose. I'm dissapointed with her new progress. I always thought she is sketchy when she said she didn't care whether Koji will reciprocate her feelings or not but here we are in V4 (spoilers). Ichinose is ready to target hiyori.

Another thing, I'm amazed with how intentionally easy it was to assume a 'weakness'. Ryuen seemed to believe that hiyori is Koji’s weakness. Like bfr, it definitely won't be that easy.

The fact that Koji abandoned his new class for the sake of this 'new experiment' is actually quite laughable. How come it was easy for him to reveal hiyori as weakness? Revealed it in front of ichinose too, then ichinose going to target hiyori for the sake of 'love'. I felt this was intentional (aligned with his OAA Y3 monologue: wanting to manipulate people based on their emotions)

Another laughable thing here was how Koji confessed his feeling for Hiyori while still assuming whether it's love or not (and..he didn't love her) Worse, he is ready to dive deep into this new experiment. Hiyori, girl you should run. Another textbook of love smh (EDIT: SORRY GUYS, HE DIDN'T CONFESS TO HIYORI, IT WAS HIYORI THAT CONFESSING TO HIM)

Though, maybe the reason why Koji abandoned his class because he became immersed with this newfound feeling, i still feel like this is just a setup for him to manipulate things further.

The only good thing from spoilers is that horikita is winning. My girl, im proud of you. And Ibuki is not expelled. Good. I just need more of WR's progression & horikita being happy

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u/Nearby_Ship5811 — 23 hours ago
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Why be Koji when you can be you

Generation by me using chatgpt and a picture of myself for reference

u/godlyuniverse1 — 20 hours ago

About Kiyohiyori..?

Kiyo confirmed his "feeling" for hiyori is just...to save her from expulsion?

It's not that he's in love with hiyori, it because Koji is trying for another experiment? Even in spoiler, I can see him being unsure that what his feelings can considered as love..

Never ending saga, huh?

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u/LazyProfile2945 — 1 day ago

A Starting Point Painted in Color: The Unconscious Bond Between Ayanokouji and Horikita (my full Series Analysis) SPOILERS

Disclaimer: This is a narrative and structural analysis of the author's intent, not an attack on other characters or their fans. All interpretations are based on the text

Introduction: A Starting Point in a New World

Apart from the students of the White Room, Horikita Suzune was the first person from the outside world with whom Ayanokouji came into contact. The author has repeatedly referred to her as the protagonist’s “starting point” in ordinary society. She did not become his first friend—that place was taken by Yuki and Shiro—but, judging by the development of the plot, she turned out to be the first person with whom he began to feel a genuine bond, no matter how actively he denied it in his internal monologues (the most striking example being his reflections on “tools” in Y1V3). This dynamic lays the foundation for one of the most complex and significant relationships in the entire story.

Chapter 1. Mirror Parallelism: Loneliness Inside Out

Kinugasa deliberately constructed the initial portrayals of Horikita and Ayanokouji as mirror images. Both are loners with severe communication problems, but the causes of their isolation are opposite.

· Ayanokouji strives to make friends so as not to stand out as a social failure.

· Horikita consciously rejects any attempts at closeness in order to remain invulnerable and not show weakness—especially in front of her brother Manabu.

This mirroring is not accidental; it is a conscious authorial device that sets the tone for the entire first year. Throughout Y1, Ayanokouji, in parallel with his own affairs, systematically helps Horikita reconsider her views and grow. As a result, she abandons blindly imitating her brother and begins to forge her own path. Manabu himself, in turn, pushes Kiyotaka to leave his mark on the school so that he will be remembered before returning to the White Room, and passes on his contacts—a groundwork for a future alliance.

Chapter 2. Evolution by Year: From Dependent Ally to Main Adversary

First Year: Investments and First Shoots

Ayanokouji's role in Horikita’s development as a leader is hard to overestimate. He gently but consistently points out her mistakes, pushes her toward cooperation with the class, and gradually draws her out of her brother’s shadow. By the end of the year, she is no longer "Manabu’s little sister" but an independent player whose progress is recognized even by other leaders.

Second Year: Payoff and Unconscious Awakening

In the second year, the training bears fruit. Horikita is officially recognized as the class leader, takes the post of student council president after Nagumo's departure, and even turns Kushida into a genuine ally—with Ayanokouji’s support, but with her own decisive role. Ayanokouji sees the results of his investments and, by some indications, feels pride—a rare emotion for him.

A key moment is the café scene in Y2V10 and the side-story of the same name, “Unconscious Awakening.” Horikita, unexpectedly even to herself, smiled, and Ayanokouji “mirrored” her smile, creating a unique and refreshing moment. But when Suzune pointed out his rare smile, he responded with a serious expression, beginning to reflect: “Why did I smile?” This episode is the clearest illustration of how his true, nascent emotions come into conflict with the “protocol” of the White Room. He himself cannot rationally explain the nature of this warmth, comparing the sensation to “an absolutely white scrapbook into which colors have been added.”

In Y2V12, he sincerely comforts her and embraces her after her defeat by Ichinose. A detail on the illustration is noteworthy: in all the hugging scenes with Kei or Ichinose, Ayanokouji’s face is emotionless and turned toward the reader; only in the scene with Horikita is he depicted from behind, his emotions hidden. This is a visual device emphasizing that here, precisely, there is something the hero is not ready to reveal even to himself.

The end of the second year (Y2V12.5) becomes a turning point: Ayanokouji leaves the class and transfers to the opponents, leaving Horikita to fight alone—armed with everything he has taught her. He was confident that she would withstand the blow. The plan to transfer had been nurtured since the beginning of the second year, and its deep purpose is not merely opposition but an existential proof.

Third Year: Crisis and a Glimpse from the Future

Horikita’s reaction—depression and a temporary loss of class efficiency in Y3V1—is psychologically justified. Her closest ally left without explanation, and now her class faces the cruel truth: “if they cannot defeat Ayanokouji, they cannot graduate as Class A.” To demand immediate mobilization would be to ignore the human nature that the author himself consistently explores.

In Y3V2, no significant development of their dynamic occurs, but the volume ends with a monologue by Horikita from the future. She reveals that she learned about Ayanokouji’s past, speaks of it as though something bad has happened to him, and makes it clear that she has played and will continue to play an important role in his life after graduation. This is consistent with the author's earlier promise that the meeting between Horikita and Atsuomi—Kiyotaka’s father—is not the last.

Chapter 3. Self-Deception as an Authorial Method: The Voice of the “White Room”

Kinugasa rarely writes directly. Ayanokouji is a classic “unreliable narrator,” raised as an ideal tool. Therefore, any deviation from the “protocol” is immediately masked by his mind with rational explanations.

A telling example is the absurd situation where Horikita gets her hand stuck in a thermos and is too embarrassed to call for help. Upon finding her, Ayanokouji, in his monologue, long reflects that this is “a chance to analyze Horikita’s weaknesses” and “understand the limits of her composure for future exams,” while simultaneously complaining that he has to help a would-be leader. In reality, he is simply teasing her and delaying the rescue because he is having fun. This is pure childishness, which he unsuccessfully clothes in the garb of cold analysis. Such a pattern of behavior can be traced in many episodes: every irrational action immediately receives a “logical crutch”—and it is precisely this internal struggle of the machine with awakening humanity that constitutes one of the main psychological layers of the story.

Chapter 4. Strategic Intent: Proof Through Defeat

The entire arc of “cultivating” Horikita has a clear ideological underpinning. Ayanokouji wants to lose to her honestly in the finale in order to refute the dogma of the White Room: “an artificially grown genius is incapable of losing to an ordinary person from an ordinary environment.” Horikita thus becomes not merely an ally but living proof that environment and freedom can create a personality equal to or surpassing the “masterpiece.”

That is precisely why his transfer to another class is not betrayal in the usual sense, but a harsh yet necessary condition of the game. By concealing his motives, he seems to issue her a challenge: “If you want answers—defeat me.” Horikita has accepted this challenge.

Chapter 5. Parallel Lines and Their Function

Kei Karuizawa: “A Textbook of Love”

In the afterwords, Kinugasa asked readers to separate Ayanokouji’s romantic experience from his main life goal. He explicitly called his relationship with Kei a “textbook of love”—it was needed in order to understand the mechanics of paired relationships from a scientific point of view. Kei fulfilled this function, and in the third year, as we know, their paths diverged. The author himself emphasized that with Horikita a different, more fundamental process is underway—a mental and strategic partnership that shapes Kiyotaka as a person.

Hiyori: First Love or a Dangerous Experiment?

There is a well-founded theory that in the third year, Hiyori becomes the object of Ayanokouji’s first romantic attraction. He becomes aware of emotions that are new to him, but herein lies a trap: his interest in emotions is unhealthy, almost investigatory in nature, encompassing not only positive but also negative experiences. There is a risk that he will want to deliberately cause her pain—for example, by bringing about her expulsion—in order to study the full gamut of feelings.

1) Authorial hints point to this: at the beginning of the story, Horikita gives him the book “Farewell, My Love” to return, and in the library he meets Hiyori for the first time.

2) The Language of Flowers: In the classical language of flowers (hanakotoba), the poppy has several meanings, but in the context of a single flower, the dominant ones become “farewell,” “consolation in suffering,” and “fleeting, ephemeral love.” In Western symbolism, the red poppy is also often associated with remembrance of those who are no longer here and with sleep-oblivion.

3) In her inner thoughts, there flickers a clear presentiment that one day she will disappear from his life. If we regard Horikita as the final point of development, then the line with Hiyori may play the role of a “cathartic” episode: having passed through destructive experience, Kiyotaka will rid himself of the unhealthy thirst for emotions and approach the final bond as a more whole person.

Chapter 6. The Author’s Words and Meta-Narrative: A Look Beyond the School

Kinugasa has stated that by the end of the second year, approximately 50–70% of the whole story has passed. This means that the three-year school arc is not the finale, and after graduation a continuation connected with the confrontation against the White Room will follow. In this phase, Horikita’s role will likely extend beyond the school. The scene of the meeting with Atsuomi and the author’s promise that they will meet again allow for the most varied options—up to and including Horikita and Manabu eventually entering a political struggle against Ayanokouji’s father and the White Room in order to free him, since the work itself pits the two viewpoints of the White Room and the Advanced Nurturing High School against each other.

In interviews, Kinugasa avoids direct answers to the question of whether they will become a couple, but he provides weighty hints:

· In one interview, he stated that Horikita, among others, “has the possibility of being with Ayanokouji,” which is a direct authorial intention.

· Horikita is the only character whose tears Kiyotaka has seen twice, and both times he was alone with her (Y1V11.5 and the end of the second year).

· The sincere smiles and warmth he displays next to Suzune are, in the author’s words, what “the third year is being written for.”

Taking into account all the facts of Horikita and Ayanokouji’s relationship and where everything is heading, one can say with certainty: if the author plans to create a relationship, it will be after the third year in the battle with the White Room at the finale.

There is also an amusing circumstance: in parallel with the light novel, a mini-manga “√Horikita” was released, offering an alternative development of events in the genre of romantic comedy, where the romantic elements were much more noticeable. Kinugasa admitted that the story was originally conceived precisely as a romantic comedy, but in the process transformed into a psychological thriller. This gives some readers grounds to consider that mini-manga as a “beta version” of a possible finale—with due allowance for the depth and complexity of the main plot, of course.

Conclusion: An Answer Written in Action

From the very first pages, the author posed the central question: “Can a person change because of their environment?” Horikita and Ayanokouji are two sides of a single experiment. Suzune changes under the influence of the environment and with Kiyotaka’s help; Kiyotaka, without fully realizing it himself, changes under the influence of his bond with her. Their final confrontation in the third year, according to the author’s design, will become the culmination of the entire structure of COTE—and the definitive answer to that question.

Until then, it remains to watch how the flawless machine learns to smile—and how the girl who was once afraid of being vulnerable becomes the strongest argument against an entire system.

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u/Mitahara4 — 1 day ago
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Confrontation - The Island Exam of Year 3

The crunch of dry leaves under boots was the only sound competing with the incessant buzzing of cicadas. The afternoon sun filtered through the thick jungle canopy, transforming the air into a dense, suffocating steam that burned the lungs with every breath.

For the third-years, the uninhabited island exam wasn't new; the familiarity with the relentless terrain and the wear and tear wasn't new to the ANHS students. But even so, their experience in this type of environment and exam didn't make it any easier. The island was no longer a stage for rustic survival; it was a slaughterhouse. The rules had been stripped of any past kindness. Here, in this forgotten corner of the island, the packed dirt and twisted roots were about to decide the fate of two students carrying the weight of their respective classes on their shoulders.

Suzune Horikita let out a breath of hot air, wiping the sweat from her forehead with the back of her hand, leaving a streak of grayish mud across her skin. She wore the school's crimson tracksuit, torn at the knees and splattered with dark stains. Standing barely three meters ahead of her, Honami Ichinose stumbled.

The leader of the Class D looked deplorable. Her uniform was drenched in sweat and caked in damp dirt. Her pink hair, normally silky and neat, hung in tangled strands over her shoulders. But what was most alarming wasn't her physical state, but her eyes. Those blue pupils, which had once overflowed with kindness and optimism, now reflected a wild desperation—the look of a cornered animal staring down a precipice.

Between them, half-buried in the mud, lay a small black rectangular device: the zone's bonus token container. Whoever scanned it first with their writstwatch would secure the points needed to save their group from disaster. For Ichinose's side, losing it meant falling into the pit of the expulsion zone. The end of the line.

"Step aside, Horikita-san..." Ichinose's voice sounded hoarse, broken by exhaustion. "Please. I can't... we can't afford to fall here. My friends... they're counting on me."

Suzune did not waver. She adjusted her stance, planting her feet firmly on the treacherous roots of the ground.

"Sentimentality won't save you this time, Ichinose-san," Suzune replied, her tone icy but tinged with a hint of pity. "We are all playing with our academic lives on the line. If I back down now, I would betray the efforts of those who stayed behind supporting me. If you want that device, you'll have to take it by force. Though I doubt you have any energy left for that."

"You leave me no choice!"

With a cry that tore through the jungle's calm, Ichinose lunged forward. There was no grace in her movements; she propelled herself purely on raw adrenaline. She swung a direct punch toward Suzune's face—a clumsy strike dictated by sheer panic.

Suzune didn't even blink. Years of rigorous martial arts training and the experience accumulated in previous battles manifested instinctively. She tilted her head slightly, letting Ichinose's fist graze the empty air beside her cheek. In the next heartbeat, Suzune caught the pink-haired girl's extended wrist, spun on her heel to absorb the momentum of the attack, and delivered a sharp palm strike to her opponent's solar plexus.

The impact knocked the wind right out of Ichinose. Her knees buckled, and she collapsed into the mud, gasping desperately as she tried to regain her breath.

Suzune took a step back, looking down at her. Wasting no time, she knelt and picked up the black device from the ground. She slipped it into her tracksuit pocket and zipped it shut. The technical confrontation was over. Victory was decided.

Or so she thought.

"Not... Not yet!" a choked cry erupted from Ichinose's throat.

Refusing to accept reality, Ichinose gathered the last remnants of her willpower. From the ground, she lunged at Suzune's legs in a desperate takedown attempt—a kamikaze tackle meant to drag her down into the mire, with the vague hope of ripping the pocket away with her teeth if necessary. It was a move entirely devoid of logic, the pure survival instinct of someone refusing to drown.

However, the gap in their physical capability and emotional control was immense.

Before Ichinose could wrap her arms around Suzune's thighs, Suzune reacted with astonishing speed. She took a short sidestep, evading the main brunt of the charge, and dropped her center of gravity. Her left hand shot forward with pinpoint precision, burying itself into Ichinose's pink hair.

With a firm, sharp tug, Suzune pulled her hair upward, halting Ichinose's momentum and forcing her head back.

The grip was relentless. Ichinose let out a choked groan of pain, gritting her teeth tightly while her hands clawed uselessly at the air, trapped in a position where she had neither leverage nor balance to defend herself. Her face, smudged with mud on her left cheek, was left completely exposed to the harsh sunlight and the piercing gaze of her victor.

Suzune half-knelt over her opponent's body, pinning her down completely beneath her weight. The submission was absolute.

Despite the tension of the moment and the dirt smudging her own face, Suzune maintained an unshakeable calm. With her free right hand, she took a brief second to brush a strand of her own dark hair over her shoulder—a gesture filled with an almost regal confidence that contrasted drastically with the humiliation of the girl lying beneath her.

"Look at you, Ichinose-san," Suzune said, staring directly into her eyes. Horikita's red pupils shone with a cold intensity. "Is this the leader who was supposed to guide her class to the top? Losing control like this... it's pathetic."

Ichinose groaned, physical pain blending with the bitterness of absolute defeat. Tears of frustration began to mix with the sweat at her temples.

"You... don't understand..." Ichinose managed to squeeze out through gritted teeth. "If I lose here... them... all my friends will pay for my weakness..."

"I understand perfectly," Suzune interrupted, slightly loosening her grip on her hair but not letting go. "That is exactly why I cannot allow myself to lose. The difference between us today isn't the desire to protect our classmates. It's that I accepted the weight of my failures and learned to harden my heart when necessary. You, on the other hand, kept trying to carry everyone with a gentle smile, hoping the world would be fair. And the reality of this exam has crushed you."

Ichinose closed her eyes, letting a single tear carve a clean path through the mud on her cheek. Her hands stopped struggling, dropping heavily onto the damp earth. Her resistance had evaporated; the fire of desperation had died out, leaving behind only the ashes of resignation.

Suzune slowly released her. She stood up, brushing the dirt off her tracksuit pants. She cast one final look down at the pink-haired girl, who remained prostrated on the ground, absorbing the crushing weight of failure.

"I'm not going to expel you, Ichinose-san. The exam still has a couple of days left, and it's up to you to find another way out. But if you cross my path again... I won't show any mercy."

Turning on her heel, Suzune Horikita stepped back into the thick of the jungle. The sun was beginning to dip, tinting the sky a bloody shade of orange. With the tokens safely secured in her pocket, she walked with a firm step, leaving behind the laments of a fallen rival.

Wattpad: https://www.wattpad.com/1629810056-classroom-of-the-elite-%27obsession%27-one-shots
Illustration source: https://x.com/KrissMaverick/status/2056481207169261914

u/BeatlessDystopia2142 — 3 days ago

A fun perspective of the logic behind two names. Disclaimer- Just take this with a grain of salt.

Featuring Volume 0’s Suzukake Tanji and our Female lead, Horikita Suzune.
When I came across that WR’s instructor’s name, I instantly felt like comparing both of their complete names when I found the resemblance of ‘Suzu’ in them.
Since we learned how Suzune was the first to bring about some important emotions in Ayanokoji, I felt like sharing this interesting analogy. (Thanking AI for this)
If it was just a coincidence, it still doesn’t deny the beauty of it.
But if it really holds significance, I might just cry.

u/Life_Button_6426 — 2 days ago