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Everything SAP publishes on agent integration assumes you have the MCP Gateway, which means Integration Suite Premium or Enhanced. Plenty of customers don't have that entitlement and won't buy it for a pilot.

What I've looked at:

• Own MCP server calling published OData. RA0029 sanctions an external MCP server, so this seems allowed. You just own all the auth and hardening yourself.
• RAP or SEGW in the ABAP stack. Cleanest curated layer, but only permitted on Private Cloud and on-prem.
• CAP with u/cap-js/mcp**.** Great DX, but Developer License 3.2 limits productive use to BTP or another SAP-licensed platform. Anyone got a straight answer on that?

Where I'm stuck: per-user identity. The Gateway has a documented IdP user token model. Without it you're building SAML bearer assertion or principal propagation yourself. Anyone done this against Public Cloud or other SAP products, and did you need Cloud Identity Services in the path?

Not looking for "just buy Integration Suite", curious what people are actually running without it.

Everything SAP publishes on agent integration assumes you have the MCP Gateway, which means Integration Suite Premium or Enhanced. Plenty of customers don't have that entitlement and won't buy it for a pilot.

What I've looked at:

• Own MCP server calling published OData. RA0029 sanctions an external MCP server, so this seems allowed. You just own all the auth and hardening yourself.
• RAP or SEGW in the ABAP stack. Cleanest curated layer, but only permitted on Private Cloud and on-prem.
• CAP with u/cap-js/mcp. Great DX, but Developer License 3.2 limits productive use to BTP or another SAP-licensed platform. Anyone got a straight answer on that?

Where I'm stuck: per-user identity. The Gateway has a documented IdP user token model. Without it you're building SAML bearer assertion or principal propagation yourself. Anyone done this against Public Cloud or other SAP products, and did you need Cloud Identity Services in the path?

Not looking for "just buy Integration Suite", curious what people are actually running without it.

I’m a SAP ABAP/Fiori guy been trying to learn more about AI and trying to understand SAP’s agent architecture from the perspective of connecting external agents to SAP.

My current understanding is SAP MCP Gateway / Integration Suite, expose and govern SAP and non-SAP APIs or integrations as tools that external agents can discover and invoke. 

A2A / Agent Gateway: let an external agent and an SAP-facing agent delegate work to each other, pass context, and return outcomes.

this feels less like “MCP vs A2A” and more like: MCP for tool/API execution, A2A for agent-to-agent orchestration.

What I’m struggling with is where SAP wants customers to land with Joule, BTP, Agent Gateway, MCP Gateway, etc. The naming and overlap make it hard to tell what is production-ready versus roadmap/positioning.

Would really appreciate input from anyone who has actually built or POC’d this:

* Have you connected an external agent framework/platform to SAP through MCP, A2A, or both?
* Are you exposing OData/REST APIs or Integration Suite flows as MCP tools? How did auth, authorization, governance, observability, and tool lifecycle work out?
* When do you keep something as a well-designed MCP tool/API, versus wrapping it in an SAP-facing agent and exposing that through A2A?
* Has anyone used A2A with Joule, Joule Studio, BTP agents, or non-SAP agent platforms in a meaningful way?

My current understanding is, MCP Gateway is for exposing/governing SAP and nonSAP APIs or integrations as tools that AI agents can discover and invoke. A2A / Agent Gateway is more for agent to agent delegation and collaboration, e.g., Joule or another agent delegating a business task to a specialist SAP facing agent.

it seems less like “MCP vs A2A” and more like two layers, A2A for orchestration between agents, MCP for tool/API execution.

Has anyone here used or POC’d SAP MCP Gateway in Integration Suite?

Has anyone used A2A with Joule, Joule Studio, BTP agents, or external agent frameworks?

Are you exposing existing OData/REST APIs or integration flows as MCP tools? Where do you see the actual boundary between “just expose a well-designed API/tool through MCP” and “this deserves a separate agent exposed through A2A”?

Any gotchas, licensing surprises, governance concerns, or design patterns you wish you knew before starting?

and whatever is going on with SAP BTP -> BAIP? why do they have to rename everything every year?

I’m trying to understand SAP’s agent architecture from the perspective of connecting external agents to SAP.

My current understanding is SAP MCP Gateway / Integration Suite, expose and govern SAP and non-SAP APIs or integrations as tools that external agents can discover and invoke. 

A2A / Agent Gateway: let an external agent and an SAP-facing agent delegate work to each other, pass context, and return outcomes.

this feels less like “MCP vs A2A” and more like: MCP for tool/API execution, A2A for agent-to-agent orchestration.

What I’m struggling with is where SAP wants customers to land with Joule, BTP, Agent Gateway, MCP Gateway, etc. The naming and overlap make it hard to tell what is production-ready versus roadmap/positioning.

Would really appreciate input from anyone who has actually built or POC’d this:

• Have you connected an external agent framework/platform to SAP through MCP, A2A, or both?
• Are you exposing OData/REST APIs or Integration Suite flows as MCP tools? How did auth, authorization, governance, observability, and tool lifecycle work out?
• When do you keep something as a well-designed MCP tool/API, versus wrapping it in an SAP-facing agent and exposing that through A2A?
• Has anyone used A2A with Joule, Joule Studio, BTP agents, or non-SAP agent platforms in a meaningful way?

And who ever says so is a scammer trying to sell something or some lucky f** got a job by applying to a role they are qualified for but believes that their way or “hack” works.

Just f do what you wanna do. Stop looking for short cut and just apply.

Mainlander here, I am trying to blend in by looking like an American in America but my accent is where I am struck at.

It’s not a very thick Indian accent but not a fluent one as well. I have noticed how people kinda ignore me when they hear my accent including ABCDs. So I want to improve it without looking like a guy with fake accent. I don’t wanna get trolled by my friends for that.

Anyone here had to learn American accent? Any tips?

Edit: this was not on a professional context. Purely my personal and social life thing.

I always wondered why Pushpa and similar type movies was successful. Today I kinda think I have an answer.

It was very templated, a lower class worker being always insulted and treated like trash, he has enough and fights back and gets successful. This everyone can accept was THE template for most gangsters/commercial movies with a bit of changes to it.

I was talking to this person who HAS FACED ALL that, he was and still frustrated but he literally can’t do anything about it. Suddenly they see movies like this, something in them awakens, they find happiness in atleast the main characters are doing what they can’t do irl.

I realised how this says a lot about our society and so called high class culture.

I feel like India in whole needs to ditch a lot of oppressive and racist norms disguised as “culture”.

Just an observation. What do you think?

I was an ahole degenerate, waste, misogynistic, a big walking d**k growing up and still I am to some extent but mostly internalised and trying to change by being respectful atleast by acting if not from heart and I think I am getting better at being a social acceptable person.

I have long stopped using bad words in public because of an incident few years ago. And only open up to my friends that know me.

since my quarter life crisis, I have noticed how many younger folks(like my cousins, new friends etc) look up to me and just hangout with me a lot and try to mirror me(in the sense of my dressing, showing off, etc).

They all are atleast like 5-6 years younger than me and lately I been correcting them on things that they do like, do not stare a woman, do not shout bad words at public places, take care of your body, be neat, speak kindly to others even if you don’t want to just pretend etc, in a nice kind way.

I never thought they would listen because they have same mindset as me when I was their age but to my total surprise they ARE LISTENING. A guy I know never takes baths now try’s to smell nice, a guy ogles any women just stopped, a rich cunt suddenly being kind to the waiter and many more.

I have seen how they have changed by just giving them proper meaningful advice.

Maybe everyone over here should try that too.

Edit: DO NOT TRY LECTURING THEM. IT MAY BACKFIRE. Just say it in a casual way, then be an example.

I was an ahole degenerate, waste, misogynistic, a big walking d\\\*\\\*k growing up and still I am to some extent but mostly internalised and trying to change by being respectful atleast by acting if not from heart and I think I am getting better at being a social acceptable person.

I have long stopped using bad words in public because of an incident few years ago. And only open up to my friends that know me.

since my quarter life crisis, I have noticed how many younger folks(like my cousins, new friends etc) look up to me and just hangout with me a lot and try to mirror me(in the sense of my dressing, showing off, etc).

They all are atleast like 5-6 years younger than me and lately I been correcting them on things that they do like, do not stare a woman, do not shout bad words at public places, take care of your body, be neat, speak kindly to others even if you don’t want to just pretend etc, in a nice kind way.

I never thought they would listen because they have same mindset as me when I was their age but to my total surprise they ARE LISTENING. A guy I know never takes baths now try’s to smell nice, a guy ogles any women just stopped, a rich cunt suddenly being kind to the waiter and many more.

I have seen how they have changed by just giving them proper meaningful advice.

Maybe everyone over here should try that too.

I was an ahole degenerate, waste, misogynistic, a big walking d**k growing up and still I am to some extent but mostly internalised and trying to change by being respectful atleast by acting if not from heart and I think I am getting better at being a social acceptable person.

I have long stopped using bad words in public because of an incident few years ago. And only open up to my friends that know me.

since my quarter life crisis, I have noticed how many younger folks(like my cousins, new friends etc) look up to me and just hangout with me a lot and try to mirror me(in the sense of my dressing, talking(petering), etc).

They all are atleast like 5-6 years younger than me and lately I been correcting them on things that they do like, do not stare a woman, do not shout bad words at public places, take care of your body, be neat, speak kindly to others even if you don’t want to just pretend etc, in a nice kind way.

I never thought they would listen because they have same mindset as me when I was their age but to my total surprise they ARE LISTENING. A guy I know never takes baths now try’s to smell nice, a guy ogles any women just stopped, a rich cunt suddenly being kind to the waiter and many more.

I have seen how they have changed by just giving them proper meaningful advice.

Maybe everyone over here should try that too.

Edit: DO NOT TRY LECTURING THEM. IT MAY BACKFIRE. Just say it in a casual way, then be an example.

I was speaking to a way younger person today and he said how Ajith hates his fans because of how they behave.

I was just laughing how he always hated his fans and to an extent himself for making such movies. I remember when all AK movies had some sort of vulgar/kanni/kiruku ku behaviour which got instantly popular among teens and young adults.

Many may say otherwise but the “f**k” got very popular in TN after he said it in some movie. Vijay, Rajini movies never used to have those.

I think he kinda regrets himself for saying/making those kind of things in movies which got picked by heavily impressionable teens and young adults.

And adding to how being a Ajith fan was “Gethu” and how bad Vijay was trolled in late 2000s to mid 2010s. I remember one guy just changed from vijay to surya fan because of trolls.