The pickup truck challenge

Edison builds serious electric work vehicles in Canada, so let's see if they can do this.

The challenge is to design a compact and affordable no frills pickups.

Not a lifestyle truck. A tool.

Specs:

Body-on-frame construction

RWD base, AWD optional

4 metres bumper to bumper

Two full adults seated comfortably, no jump seats

500 kg payload including passengers

1,000 kg towing capacity

15 kWh usable battery as standard

100 km range on battery only at full payload

Generator option, 15 kW sustained and 20 kW high load, mounted between the frame rails

500 km range with generator at full payload

130 kph top speed

AC standard, basic instruments, no infotainment

Design a prototype you can show us, and tell us what it would cost to buy.

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u/Smedskjaer — 21 hours ago

Challenge: Can Edison make a sub compact pickup to these specs?

The North American sub compact pickup truck. Nothing which is nice to have, far smaller than a Ranger, but everything you need if you aren't hauling heavy loads. It's small, light, and the perfect product for Edison motors to show the industry how a small pickup for North America is done.

It's two specs, shared platform. Good for the farm, or the flower shop.

Shared-platform small pickup specs

  • Vehicle type: two-seat single-cab subcompact pickup
  • Construction: body-on-frame
  • Front layout: conventional hooded front end
  • Cab: steel safety cell, two manual seats
  • Bed: aluminum bed body, manual aluminum tailgate, steel mounting brackets/subframe
  • Drive: rear electric axle standard
  • AWD: optional front electric axle
  • Hybrid type: plug-in series hybrid
  • Generator: front-mounted diesel generator
  • Battery: LFP pack mounted low between frame rails
  • Transmission: none
  • Transfer case: none
  • Front suspension: double wishbone, coil springs, anti-roll bar
  • Rear suspension: live rear electric axle, progressive leaf springs
  • Steering: electric power steering
  • Interior: rubber floor, manual seats, manual HVAC, basic instruments
  • Charging: SAE J1772 AC
  • Safety: airbags, ABS, ESC, TPMS, rear camera display

400 kg payload version

  • Total rated payload: 400 kg

  • Payload includes: occupants, cargo, accessories, tongue weight

  • Cargo after two 75 kg adults: 250 kg

  • Cargo after two 90 kg adults: 220 kg

  • Curb weight, RWD: 1,475–1,625 kg

  • Curb weight, AWD: 1,540–1,700 kg

  • GVWR, RWD: 1,875–2,025 kg

  • GVWR, AWD: 1,940–2,100 kg

  • Length: 4,250–4,400 mm

  • Width: 1,740–1,800 mm

  • Height: 1,670–1,740 mm

  • Wheelbase: 2,650–2,775 mm

  • Ground clearance, curb: 180–190 mm

  • Ground clearance, loaded: 155–170 mm

  • Turning circle: 10.4–10.8 m

  • Bed material: aluminum bed body with steel mounting structure

  • Bed length: 1,550–1,680 mm

  • Bed width: 1,360–1,440 mm

  • Width between wheel housings: 1,000–1,070 mm

  • Bed depth: 410–450 mm

  • Bed floor height: 695–745 mm

  • Tailgate load rating: 125 kg

  • Tie-downs: 6 fixed steel tie-downs

  • Estimated aluminum bed assembly mass: 65–90 kg

  • Hybrid type: plug-in series hybrid

  • Electric-only range: 30 km

  • Battery chemistry: LFP

  • Gross battery capacity: 9–10 kWh

  • Estimated battery pack mass: 70–95 kg

  • Generator engine: 1.0–1.2 L 3-cylinder diesel

  • Optimal continuous generator output: 35–42 kW

  • Peak generator output: 48–50 kW

  • Rear motor continuous output: 40–50 kW

  • Rear motor peak output: 80–90 kW

  • Optional front motor continuous output: 15–25 kW

  • Optional front motor peak output: 30–40 kW

  • Total range: 500–650 km

  • Rear regenerative braking: yes

  • Final drive: single-speed rear electric axle reduction

  • Front suspension: double wishbone, coil spring, anti-roll bar

  • Rear suspension: live rear electric axle, 2-stage progressive leaf springs

  • Dampers: twin-tube hydraulic

  • Front brakes: ventilated discs

  • Rear brakes: drums or solid discs

  • Wheels: 16 × 6.5 in steel

  • Tires: 205/70R16 reinforced all-season/all-weather

  • Spare: compact spare

  • Maximum speed: 125–135 km/h

  • 0–100 km/h: 15–20 s

  • Sustained speed at GVWR on level road: 110 km/h

  • Sustained speed at GVWR on 3% grade: 90 km/h for 20 min

  • Standing-start gradeability at GVWR: 20%

  • Trailer rating: 500–650 kg

  • Tongue weight: 50–65 kg

500 kg payload version

  • Total rated payload: 500 kg

  • Payload includes: occupants, cargo, accessories, tongue weight

  • Cargo after two 75 kg adults: 350 kg

  • Cargo after two 90 kg adults: 320 kg

  • Curb weight, RWD: 1,610–1,775 kg

  • Curb weight, AWD: 1,685–1,850 kg

  • GVWR, RWD: 2,110–2,275 kg

  • GVWR, AWD: 2,185–2,350 kg

  • Length: 4,400–4,600 mm

  • Width: 1,780–1,840 mm

  • Height: 1,700–1,780 mm

  • Wheelbase: 2,800–2,950 mm

  • Ground clearance, curb: 185–200 mm

  • Ground clearance, loaded: 160–175 mm

  • Turning circle: 10.8–11.2 m

  • Bed material: aluminum bed body with steel mounting structure

  • Bed length: 1,750–1,900 mm

  • Bed width: 1,420–1,520 mm

  • Width between wheel housings: 1,050–1,130 mm

  • Bed depth: 440–490 mm

  • Bed floor height: 710–775 mm

  • Tailgate load rating: 175 kg

  • Tie-downs: 8 fixed steel tie-downs

  • Estimated aluminum bed assembly mass: 80–115 kg

  • Hybrid type: plug-in series hybrid

  • Electric-only range: 50 km

  • Battery chemistry: LFP

  • Gross battery capacity: 13–16 kWh

  • Estimated battery pack mass: 105–145 kg

  • Generator engine: 1.3–1.5 L 3-cylinder diesel

  • Optimal continuous generator output: 50–60 kW

  • Peak generator output: 65–70 kW

  • Rear motor continuous output: 55–65 kW

  • Rear motor peak output: 100–115 kW

  • Optional front motor continuous output: 20–30 kW

  • Optional front motor peak output: 40–50 kW

  • Total range: 600–750 km

  • Rear regenerative braking: yes

  • Final drive: single-speed rear electric axle reduction

  • Front suspension: double wishbone, coil spring, anti-roll bar

  • Rear suspension: live rear electric axle, 3-stage progressive leaf springs

  • Dampers: twin-tube hydraulic

  • Front brakes: ventilated discs

  • Rear brakes: discs

  • Wheels: 16 × 7 in steel

  • Tires: 215/70R16 reinforced all-season/all-weather

  • Spare: full-size spare

  • Maximum speed: 130–140 km/h

  • 0–100 km/h: 12.0–15.0 s

  • Sustained speed at GVWR on level road: 115 km/h

  • Sustained speed at GVWR on 3% grade: 100 km/h for 20 min

  • Standing-start gradeability at GVWR: 22%

  • Trailer rating: 900–1,100 kg

  • Tongue weight: 90–110 kg

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u/Smedskjaer — 5 days ago
▲ 2 r/F250

Does anyone do replacements of the F250/F350 center dash console and OEM screen with a custom aftermarket?

Hey. Trying to figure out if the center console can be replaced. What is wanted is a centerline tunnel on the floor from the rear (seats deleted) to the dash, and a transition from the tunnel console to the center dash. An in-dash touchscreen (PoE connection) with bezel buttons are wanted. I am trying to figure out what can be done, and what cannot be done. Can the OEM screen be replaced? Can it be relocated? Can the HVAC controls be replaced with after market? Would it screw up other controls?

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u/Smedskjaer — 7 days ago