Problems with the Mystery Boys Concept

Remember those posts of mine about M-Jira's Mystery Boys concept? The one with Dipper Pines from Gravity Falls, Lincoln Loud from The Loud House and The Casagrandes, Jack Wylde from Wylde Pak, Steven Universe, and Craig Williams from Craig of the Creek forming a group of investigators and whatnot?

There is too much to think about for it, especially given the lore of SU and GF would be incorporated into the reboot of M-Jira's primary Loud House project with the Kraekkarians, Chimera Corp., etc. And the geography of the world of Steven Universe, even geographic locations and correspondences with those of our world, is radically different compared to those other four franchises. If you're well-versed enough with the lore and where clashes would occur, you'd know what I'm talking about. And I think Lonely Fanboy48 would as well.

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u/T1mbuk1 — 10 hours ago

Problems with the Mystery Boys Concept

Remember those posts of mine about M-Jira's Mystery Boys concept? The one with Dipper Pines from Gravity Falls, Lincoln Loud from The Loud House and The Casagrandes, Jack Wylde from Wylde Pak, Steven Universe, and Craig Williams from Craig of the Creek forming a group of investigators and whatnot?

There is too much to think about for it, especially given the lore of SU and GF would be incorporated into the reboot of M-Jira's primary Loud House project with the Kraekkarians, Chimera Corp., etc. And the geography of the world of Steven Universe, even geographic locations and correspondences with those of our world, is radically different compared to those other four franchises. If you're well-versed enough with the lore and where clashes would occur, you'd know what I'm talking about. And I think Lonely Fanboy48 would as well.

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u/T1mbuk1 — 10 hours ago

Problems with the Mystery Boys Concept

Remember those posts of mine about M-Jira's Mystery Boys concept? The one with Dipper, Lincoln Loud from The Loud House and The Casagrandes, Jack Wylde from Wylde Pak, Steven Universe, and Craig Williams from Craig of the Creek forming a group of investigators and whatnot?

There is too much to think about for it, especially given the lore of SU and GF would be incorporated into the reboot of M-Jira's primary Loud House project with the Kraekkarians, Chimera Corp., etc. And the geography of the world of Steven Universe, even geographic locations and correspondences with those of our world, is radically different compared to those other four franchises. If you're well-versed enough with the lore and where clashes would occur, you'd know what I'm talking about. And I think Lonely Fanboy48 would as well.

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u/T1mbuk1 — 10 hours ago
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Dipper Uncovering “Conlangs”

Remember that Mystery Boys thought experiment? https://www.deviantart.com/mythojirastudios/art/The-Boys-on-a-Quest-1327294446 https://www.deviantart.com/mythojirastudios/poll/Who-would-make-a-great-leader-of-the-Mystery-Boys-8761119 https://www.deviantart.com/comments/14/8761119/5283774582

Well, I thought of a scenario after looking back at this video by jan Misali. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xybuMrbR86k (A video about games thst involve language uncovering.)

The boys would each be playing a game, probably helping each other out, probably competing to see who would beat their chosen game before the others beat theirs(perhaps with help from their friend groups and/or family), you name it. The games are these: Heaven's Vault, Sethian, Chants of Sennaar, and similar games, excluding Japanese anime games, horror games, etc.

u/T1mbuk1 — 4 days ago

Ways of Marking Number Word Sets

Different types of number word sets cross-linguistically include cardinals, ordinals, distributives, multiplicatives, fractionals, etc. Given the sets in languages like Japanese and Irish, what ways would there be in an analytic language to mark them? And what would the etymologies be for the markings in agglutinative, fusional, and polysynthetic languages?

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u/T1mbuk1 — 8 days ago

Complex Number Words for Other Bases

Remembering the videos by jan Misali about seximal, and that video “the best way to count” with the thumbnail being the phrase “it’s not base 6”, I’ve been thinking about what number words could drive from in naturalistic conlangs, albeit limited to fingers and toes.

  1. Base-6

One(1): finger of hand

Two(2): middle finger of hand

Three(3): ??? finger of hand

Four(4): pinky of hand

Five(5): thumb of hand

Six(10): finger of other hand

Seven(11): finger of other hand and finger of hand

(I’ll let you guys extrapolate from there.)

Now, these could be useful for Protolangs, as sound and grammar changes could lead to irregularities between number words.

  1. Base-10

One(1): finger on hand

Two(2): finger of hand

Two(2): middle finger of hand

Three(3): ??? finger of hand

Four(4): pinky of hand

Five(5): thumb of hand

Six(6): thumb and finger of hand

Seven(7): thumb and middle finger of hand

Ten(10): finger of other hand

Eleven(11): finger of other hand and finger of hand

Fifty(50): thumb of other hand

Sixty(60): thumb and finger of other hand

Sixty-one(61): thumb and finger of other hand and finger of hand

(Not to sound rude, but I hope to not add redundancy and repeat myself by saying that you can easily extrapolate from these foundations.)

  1. Base-12

One(1): bottom of finger of hand

Two(2): middle of finger of hand

Three(3): top of finger of hand

(The terms can be switched for one and three, four and six, seven and nine, and dek and do/zero.)

  1. Base-16(exclude the thumbs and either the big or little toes)

One(1): finger of hand

Two(2): middle finger of hand

Three(3): ??? finger of hand

Four(4): pinky of hand

Five(5): finger of other hand

Nine(9): (big or little) toe of foot

Ten(A): ??? toe of foot

Eleven(B): middle toe of foot

Twelve(C): ??? toe of foot

Thirteen(D): (big or little) toe of other foot

Fourteen(E): ??? toe of other foot

Fifteen(F): middle toe of other foot

Sixteen(10): ??? toe of other foot

  1. Base-16(alternate)

One(1): bottom line of finger of hand

Two(2): middle line of finger of hand

Three(3): top line of finger of hand

Four(4): tip of finger of hand

Five(5): bottom line of middle finger of hand

Sixteen(10): bottom line of finger of other hand

(Do I need to say it.)

Like I said, various sound changes, grammar changes, and instances of semantic bleaching and drifting, would lead to these complex words being a bit similar. Irregularities probably included as well.

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u/T1mbuk1 — 8 days ago

Project Herems Writing

Remember Biblaridion presenting his plans for Project Hermes at Kopikon II? Well, he finalized the script for Taqva-miir, which he envisions the speakers of Project Hermes using, with the script adopted during the protolanguages. He also mentioned that there would be a palatal series and an ejective series. So looking at the Proto-Hermes inventory at the presentation, it might be safe to assume(and I'm not a fan of making assumptions) that [t'], [c'], and [k'] might be part of Proto-Hermes, and so would [ɕ] and [ʎ]. I don't know if Proto-Hermes would be given voiced obstruents at all. And what about the probability of the addition of [p'], [kʷ'], or both?

Given what the script for Proto-miir would've been like, how could Proto-Hermes be transcribed with it? Remember, in the presentation, there was a coda [s] for the imperfective. For those who have not looked at the presentation at all, it's on the LangTime Studio channel. Here's a link for those unfortunately too lazy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iolGHgk3F8

With all this in mind, what else could be in coda position in Proto-Hermes? How could phonemes like those extra two nasals and maybe [p'], if it were to be added, be represented? How could Proto-Hermes [e] and [o] be represented with the Proto-miir script lacking dedicated glyphs for them? What spelling reforms might exist given the planned sound changes from the protolang to the modern form with the consonant mutation patterns? Remember the goals for Project Hermes as well.

What would your answers to each of these questions be?

u/T1mbuk1 — 10 days ago

Newly-Revealed Surnames

I looked at the wiki and discovered edits of Anusha's surname being Anand and Debs's being Dilby. I might have to look at the character sheets again, whatever the evidence is for those surnames.

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u/T1mbuk1 — 12 days ago

Afterschool Snacks(safe for consumption)

Dread-sicles: Fro-yo with cookie sticks.

Crunch-arella Sticks: Heated string cheese with spicy Molten Crunchies coatings.

Sucrose Collider: Gelatinous blobs with bitter baby candies inside, soaked in Quencherade(for 27 hours?!), and coated in sugar stick crystals.

Bunned Fish: pandesals topped with Lolo's Super Smooth peanut butter and a gunny fish.

Craig Spidies: chocolate squares with pretzel sticks through them.

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u/T1mbuk1 — 15 days ago

Because someone replied to a comment of mine...

After seeing Wheels Collide, would the argument at the end be dropped? They might've been at the Creek simultaneously. As in, both groups were there first and at the same time. Compared to others.

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u/T1mbuk1 — 16 days ago

Names for Glyphs and Diacritics

The acrophonic names for glyphs in the modern form of Taqva-miir.

Glyph Initial(Proto-miir) Final(Proto-miir) Initial(Taqva-miir) Final(Taqva-miir) Possible Name(Proto-miir) Possible Name(Taqva-miir)
hair m- - m- - m??? m???
bone n- -ir n- -ir nir nir
dog/horse ny- -ar - -ar nyar nar?/ar (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
roots b- -ur b- -Ur bur bor
rabbit(til) t- -il t- -il til til
man(t'ula) t'- - t- - t'ula? tola?/tol?/to?
house(duka) d- - d- - duka? doka?/dok?/do?
??? c- -? - - c??? (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
??? c'- - - - c'??? (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
gate gy- -uny - - gyuny -
beast/animal(kuly) k- -uly k- - kuly kol?
eat(k'am) k'- -am k- -am k'am kam
??? g- -? - - g??? -
sea(qum) q- -um q- Um qum qom
??? q'- -? - - q'??? (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
table/altar gq- -im - -im gqim im
??? '- -? - - '??? -
water(sin/syin) s- -in s- -in syin sin
worm/snake z- -iny z- - ziny rin?
barley sy- -ul - -ul syul sol? (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
mountain zy- - - - zy??? -
body(xi) x- - h- - xi hi
??? gh- -? - - gh??? -
small(ħun) ħ- -un h- -Un ħun hon?
??? ġ- - - - ġ??? -
pot h- -ily - - hily il? (Glyph now only exists as gemination diacritic.)
plough r- -any r- - rany ran?
bird l- -an l- -an lan lan
three(lyum) ly- - - - lyum (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
sun(yaalu) y- - y- - y??? y???
harpoon w- -aly w- - waly wal?
rod a- - a- - a? a?
flame i- - i- - i? i?
hook u- - U- - u? o?
many(qaal) - -al - al qaal?/al? al?

A lot of the modern names, if not all of them, are only guesses.

Diacritic Feature Origin Name(Proto-miir) Name(Taqva-miir)
◌̗ converts initial glyphs to represent finals ex-nihilo ??? ???
◌̭ vowel length derived from the glyph for "two"(which would've been two vertical lines next to each other) ??? ???
◌̄ vowel lowering derived from the glyph for "table/altar" ??? ???
◌̊ vowel fronting derived from the glyph for "sun" ??? ???
??? consonant gemination derived from the glyph for "pot" ??? ???

Now for cluster diacritics.

Diacritic Feature Origin Name
??? tC derived from the glyph for "rabbit" ???
??? kC derived from the glyph for "beast/animal" ???
??? qC derived from the glyph for "sea" ???
??? sC derived from the glyph for "water" ???
??? hC derived from the glyph for "body" ???
??? yC derived from the glyph for "flame" ???
??? wC derived from the glyph for "hook" ???
??? zC derived from the glyph for "snake/worm" ???
??? dC derived from the glyph for "house" ???

A screenshot of the glyphs themselves.

Hopefully, people could take these customizations and organize them into charts.

What do you guys think the names for all these would be?

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u/T1mbuk1 — 16 days ago

Names for Glyphs and Diacritics

The acrophonic names for glyphs in the modern form of Taqva-miir.

Glyph Initial(Proto-miir) Final(Proto-miir) Initial(Taqva-miir) Final(Taqva-miir) Possible Name(Proto-miir) Possible Name(Taqva-miir)
hair m- - m- - m??? m???
bone n- -ir n- -ir nir nir
dog/horse ny- -ar - -ar nyar nar?/ar (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
roots b- -ur b- -Ur bur bor
rabbit(til) t- -il t- -il til til
man(t'ula) t'- - t- - t'ula? tola?/tol?/to?
house(duka) d- - d- - duka? doka?/dok?/do?
??? c- -? - - c??? (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
??? c'- - - - c'??? (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
gate gy- -uny - - gyuny -
beast/animal(kuly) k- -uly k- - kuly kol?
eat(k'am) k'- -am k- -am k'am kam
??? g- -? - - g??? -
sea(qum) q- -um q- Um qum qom
??? q'- -? - - q'??? (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
table/altar gq- -im - -im gqim im
??? '- -? - - '??? -
water(sin/syin) s- -in s- -in syin sin
worm/snake z- -iny z- - ziny rin?
barley sy- -ul - -ul syul sol? (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
mountain zy- - - - zy??? -
body(xi) x- - h- - xi hi
??? gh- -? - - gh??? -
small(ħun) ħ- -un h- -Un ħun hon?
??? ġ- - - - ġ??? -
pot h- -ily - - hily il? (Glyph now only exists as gemination diacritic.)
plough r- -any r- - rany ran?
bird l- -an l- -an lan lan
three(lyum) ly- - - - lyum (Glyph now only used for Project Hermes loanwords.)
sun(yaalu) y- - y- - y??? y???
harpoon w- -aly w- - waly wal?
rod a- - a- - a? a?
flame i- - i- - i? i?
hook u- - U- - u? o?
many(qaal) - -al - al qaal?/al? al?

A lot of the modern names, if not all of them, are only guesses.

Diacritic Feature Origin Name(Proto-miir) Name(Taqva-miir)
◌̗ converts initial glyphs to represent finals ex-nihilo ??? ???
◌̭ vowel length derived from the glyph for "two"(which would've been two vertical lines next to each other) ??? ???
◌̄ vowel lowering derived from the glyph for "table/altar" ??? ???
◌̊ vowel fronting derived from the glyph for "sun" ??? ???
??? consonant gemination derived from the glyph for "pot" ??? ???

Now for cluster diacritics.

Diacritic Feature Origin Name
??? tC derived from the glyph for "rabbit" ???
??? kC derived from the glyph for "beast/animal" ???
??? qC derived from the glyph for "sea" ???
??? sC derived from the glyph for "water" ???
??? hC derived from the glyph for "body" ???
??? yC derived from the glyph for "flame" ???
??? wC derived from the glyph for "hook" ???
??? zC derived from the glyph for "snake/worm" ???
??? dC derived from the glyph for "house" ???

A screenshot of the glyphs themselves.

Hopefully, people could take these customizations and organize them into charts.

What do you guys think the names for all these would be?

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u/T1mbuk1 — 17 days ago

What Creek Kids would Jack, Lily, and their friends(Wylde Pak) get along the most well with?

Asked out of boredom. Dunno if such a post would be ideal for r/WyldePak. Anyway, I wanted to add to my streak as well.

On topic, given the vast knowledge of each character of Craig of the Creek and the knowledge of each of the characters of Wylde Pak, what would the chemistries be like? Even compared to chemistries between Tater and her Primos with the CotC roster?

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u/T1mbuk1 — 17 days ago

Ways of Origins

How many ways are there to create naturalistic triconsonantal root or generally non-concatenative systems?

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u/T1mbuk1 — 21 days ago

Afterschool Snacks and More

After seeing Afterschool Snackdown and being a veteran viewer of EpicMealTime's earlier videos (including Epic Chef), how do you think the Creek kids would take to those videos?

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u/T1mbuk1 — 22 days ago

Mystery Boys' Allies(featuring Craig Williams)

Thought I'd post this out of boredom. Remember this image I shared that has Steven Universe in it?

Image by MythojiraStudios(formerly Syfyman2XXX and later Syfyman2D)

There's also that poll he posted: https://www.deviantart.com/mythojirastudios/poll/Who-would-make-a-great-leader-of-the-Mystery-Boys-8761119

And his reason for it: https://www.deviantart.com/comments/14/8761119/5283774582

Well, I thought I'd ask about, if anyone is familiar with the lore of the Loud House primary project by M-Jira, who they think the adversaries of these five would be, and who would be their allies.

Here's my hypothesis:

It might be easy to look at the Myth Seekers, the Kraekkarians, the Crystal Gems(and other gems and humans Steven has befriended), the Stump Kids, and other groups of the Creek, the Loud and Casagrande families(including the Loud Cousins) and their friend groups(including the Action News Team), the Wylde Pak family, Jack and Lily's friends, the Pines family and their friends, among others from the settings of their series would be their allies.

As for adversaries, I'm thinking the Chimera Corp, Xenodragons, and Skull Hunters. And maybe the people from their shows in which they would still have tensions with(Aquamarine and Eyeball, among others for Steven, Chandler McCann and others for Lincoln, Gideon and others for Dipper, etc).

I don't know about Dinojira, though.

What about you guys? Who do you think would be the allies and adversaries of the Mystery Boys?

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u/T1mbuk1 — 25 days ago

Mystery Boys' Allies(featuring Jack Wylde)

Thought I'd post this out of boredom. Remember this image I shared that has Jack Wylde in it?

Image by MythojiraStudios(formerly Syfyman2XXX and later Syfyman2D)

There's also that poll he posted: https://www.deviantart.com/mythojirastudios/poll/Who-would-make-a-great-leader-of-the-Mystery-Boys-8761119

And his reason for it: https://www.deviantart.com/comments/14/8761119/5283774582

Well, I thought I'd ask about, if anyone is familiar with the lore of the Loud House primary project by M-Jira, who they think the adversaries of these five would be, and who would be their allies.

Here's my hypothesis:

It might be easy to look at the Myth Seekers, the Kraekkarians, the Crystal Gems(and other gems and humans Steven has befriended), the Stump Kids, and other groups of the Creek, the Loud and Casagrande families(including the Loud Cousins) and their friend groups(including the Action News Team), the Wylde Pak family, Jack and Lily's friends, the Pines family and their friends, among others from the settings of their series would be their allies.

As for adversaries, I'm thinking the Chimera Corp, Xenodragons, and Skull Hunters. And maybe the people from their shows in which they would still have tensions with(Aquamarine and Eyeball, Chandler McCann, Gideon, etc).

I don't know about Dinojira, though.

What about you guys? Who do you think would be the allies and adversaries of the Mystery Boys?

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u/T1mbuk1 — 25 days ago