Image 1 — Changed my mind abt a lot of things, so here's the theories I believe in (WIP) :
Image 2 — Changed my mind abt a lot of things, so here's the theories I believe in (WIP) :

Changed my mind abt a lot of things, so here's the theories I believe in (WIP) :

There's a whole section called "idk" where there's all the theories that I'm not sure if I believe in or not (when charlie died, the TOYSNHK theories, ....) so this isnt my definitive tier list I still need to add things

u/Tabarnak__ — 10 days ago
▲ 15 r/charlie87+1 crossposts

Theory : Yenndo is BV put back together (I'm serious)

Ok this is gonna be pretty long but I swear it's necessary cause we're gonna be using a lot of elements and thinking for this theory.

I believe in GlitchbearAfton and MikeWorldPlayer (the player representing him) but I just tought of smth of a problem that is only solvable through Yenndo.

1) The context :

In Fnaf SL Micheal implies that helping Baby form Ennard succesfuly made Elizabeth be "put back together" as William asked him to. We even see that Circus Baby acts differently from Scrap Baby in FFPS so overall it seems to imply Elizabeth was shattered between the funtimes (either shattered manually due to William's experiments or shattered since she died) and forming Ennard put her soul back together.

In Fnaf World William tells BV he will put him back together, and while he doesnt return to that to say he ultimately achieved that goal there's that one source code in the teaser for update 2 that says "he put the pieces back together" and in the clock ending he tells BV "the pieces are put in place".

To get that clock ending you need to interact with clocks and complete a minigame that is different for each of them. For 3 of them you have to put things in a square, put pieces in place, for 1 of them you have to push the button that displays the correct code, and for another one you have to push buttons in the correct way.

All of these minigames references the fnaf 3 minigames used to obtain the good ending (excluding HD). What do you do in those minigames ? You give cake to MCI victims found in these minigames to then reunite to give the cake to the 5th MCI victim.

The characters you control in these minigames (excluding HD) are all referenced in fnaf 4 in some way, with things that even seem out of place. Toy Chica with the chica toy missing its beak, Mangle with the mangled toy, Ballon boy with the fat boy holding a balloon, Shadow Bonnie with the purple spring bonnie shadow, Golden Freddy with the Fredbear plush teleporting. Like I said all of these refefences seem out of place, Toy Chica didnt exist back then same for mangle. It's like present memories overlapped some of BV's past memories. Memories that seem to be related to the MCI victims as shown in fnaf 3.

In FFPS there's Molten Freddy, who's a fusion containing the MCI victims and who also seems to represent or even be BV. He's BV put back together. And in fnaf world to put back together BV you're putting pieces back together, puting pieces that were once BV's soul's back onto him. This would mean that pieces of MCI victims' souls that were BV's were used to "repair" BV's soul.

In fnaf world, a weird detail is that there isnt a single clock referencing HD, the minigame related to a BV memory that is linked to the 5th MCI soul who possesses Golden Freddy. But even without that, BV is still put back together. This makes a lot of sense under GoldenDuo : BV shares Golden Freddy with a MCI victim so they're already linked. And if we go even further, if pieces of souls were linked to BV himself it can be traducted physically to fusing animatronic parts with Golden Freddy.

But there's a problem : Molten Freddy is Ennard after Elizabeth left, so if he was BV put back together why didnt Micheal or William talk about also puting back together both of them (BV and Elizabeth) in Fnaf SL ? And how does Golden Freddy comes in this ?

2) Yenndo is the key

There's that one source code teaser where we could see Elizabeth and the MCI victims arguing about kicking her out, but smth weird is that it isnt each of the MCI kids or only one of them talking to her, it seems like it's an entity made from a fusion of them who's talking, kinda like a Steven Universe fusion yk. If inside Ennard, who's a fusion, there's Elizabeth and another fusion made from the MCI victims then that could mean that this fusion came from prior the fusion that lead to Ennard.

Weirdly, there is a mysterious animatronic in Fnaf sl who seems to be a sort of modified version of Golden Freddy : Yenndo. Yenndo is BV put back together.

But another problem : If Yenndo is BV put back together, why did William abandon him underground ? Wasnt reuniting his family in a twisted way his goal as Scrap Baby says in FFPS ? And why would he be part of Ennard if the goal of Ennard was to put back together Elizabeth ?

Yenndo has funtime technology added. Since William used the scooper to destroy animatronics he could have used parts found on a funtime animatronic that had a part of Elizabeth's soul linked to to add to Yenndo.

You could say "is he dumb ? Why did he add part of animatronics that were linked to Elizabeth's soul onto Yenndo if he wanted to put her back together ?"

If we check what William did and discover : from late 1983/1984 to 1985 he experimented on agony/fear, in 1985 he built CBPW to have more subjects (implying before he used his kids or likely only Micheal for his experiments) but it lead to Elizabeth dying. Then later in 1985 he tries to replicate her death with 5 kids by doing the MCI and he learns about possession. In 1987 he does the DCI to learn more about possession and when seeing it has an effect on the withereds and Puppet, he angers them even more leading to the bite of 87, likely to study the effect a soul can have on an animatronic if it has strong emotions like anger. We also know that after CBPW closed it returned as CBEAR, used by William to study remnant by transforming the funtimes that were used to contain kids into remnant containers. CBEAR was used for his experiments, post 1985. That means Yenndo must have been created between 1985 and fnaf SL, but where are the prooves of that ?

Yk how, in Fnaf World, the player helps Glitchbear put BV back together right ? In the games William is said to tamper as a dayshift security guard with the animatronics during the days Jeremy is the nightguard. Then after the animatronics are said to become dangerous William leaves the company and Micheal starts working as a nightguard and gets fired for tampering with the animatronics. Then there's fnaf 1 where Michael also gets fired for tampering with the animatronics. Fnaf 2 is in 1987, fnaf 1 is in the 1990s. It's between 1985 and fnaf SL.

By tampering with the animatronics, William could have been trying to take pieces of them to put back together BV, and when he saw it was getting too dangerous for him he sent his son to do the job.

Between fnaf 1 and fnaf sl there's nothing that implies Michael worked at a pizzeria to tamper with animatronics. Maybe because William got everything he needed to put back together BV after fnaf 1. That would mean that he started to "worry" about Elizabeth and sent Michael to put her back together around the time he was done puting back together BV. That's why he didnt care about mixing parts coming from Baby, it's only after he was done with BV that he got interested to Elizabeth's case.

And.... that's it. Tell me in comments what you think about that.

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u/Tabarnak__ — 13 days ago

Am I the only one that thinks Micheal's and BV's attitudes could be trauma responses ?

It could be due to something William did therefore it would make Micheal bullying BV William's fault and would explain why BV would put the blame on him for killing him under BVTOYNSHK + WillUCN

u/Tabarnak__ — 2 months ago

Other BVTOYSNHKers, how do you feel about Fnaf World 2 being confirmed ?

It will likely either confirm or debunk BVTOYNSHK since Fnaf World was heavily linked to BV and we're getting a sequel that seems to be linked to Happiest Day. How do you feel about the possibility of finally getting answers about BV ?? Are you as hyped as me ?

u/Tabarnak__ — 2 months ago

ALL THE NEWS WE GOT TODAY FOR FNAF'S 12TH ANNIVERSARY :

- Fnaf sb 2 was confirmed by Steelwool on X through a video where for a few frames a brand new Vanny design appeared with a "2" in the font of fnaf sb in its right eye (https://x.com/SteelWoolStudio/status/2086165663043690534)

- Fnaf World 2 was confirmed by Mega Cat Studios on X through an image containing a giant "2" with the adventure animatronics inside (https://x.com/megacatstudios/status/2086180739633352878)

- An actual Freddy Fazbear's Pizza place opening in 2027 was announced by Scott on X (https://x.com/FNAF\_ScottGames/status/2086173138401034577)

u/Tabarnak__ — 2 months ago

Does VanessaAfton only work under FM2015 ?

I was wondering that cause I don't believe in FM2015 but believe in Follow me happenning in the 2000s

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u/Tabarnak__ — 4 months ago

Literally GoldenTrio

(The reference is from moon knight where a guy kinda has 2 personnalities that talk and interact with eachother a lot but also a third secret savage one that's revealed at the end and that doesnt interact with either of them)

u/Tabarnak__ — 4 months ago
▲ 15 r/charlie87+1 crossposts

The new tier list of the theories I believe in for each game

There's multiple sparks cause for me David made William learn about ghosts, BV's death made William reproduct his death conditions on other kids in a copy of FFD and the town underground (obs 1) making him understand that a soul can leave an imprint on its surroundings, BV's nightmares made William do, after his death, the fear experiments (obs 2) based on his nightmares making him discover agony, Elizabeth's death made William do the MCI and put the bodies in the animatronics, making him discover possession and Charlie possessing Puppet while not being inside of her and also waking up the MCI souls in the animatronics made William do the DCI to test if a soul would possess an animatronic if it wasnt in contact with it nor helped by Charlie. Also there's both "Molten MCI Alter-F" and "MoltenVictim" cause I only believe in Cassidy's soul attaching itself to Micheal and not BV's.

u/Tabarnak__ — 4 months ago
▲ 34 r/charlie87+1 crossposts

The survival logbook (may) show us that Micheal worked at a Freddy Fazbear Pizza place in 2005 whose office inspired the one in Fazbear Frights.

Tell me your opinion about this in comments

u/Tabarnak__ — 4 months ago
▲ 19 r/charlie87+1 crossposts

The survival logbook doesnt take place in 2015 nor 2017

A lot of people found out that Micheal is trying to give us the real value of 16 by telling us that it's equal to (4+5)×3 (27) in his time. People then tried to find the year the survival logbook took place in by calculating in which year 16 dollars in 1993 was worth 27 dollars. The problem here is that these coupons are likely not from the fnaf 1 pizzeria, but from the fnaf 2 pizzeria. "Fancy" and "new" are linked to Bonnie and Freddy, this would make sense if these Bonnie and Freddy were Toy Bonnie and Toy Freddy. Also, all of these coupons are upgraded version of the coupons from the "slice" page whose coupons seem to be from the MCI location (check my previous post for more info). So with all of these info we can conclude the coupons are from the fnaf 2 pizzeria, from 1987. Now if we calculate in what year 16 dollars in 1987 was worth 27 dollars the closest we get is 2005 with 27,5 dollars or 2004 with 26,6 dollars. Not 2015 or 2017.

u/Tabarnak__ — 4 months ago
▲ 8 r/charlie87+1 crossposts

The survival logbook coupons can be used to find an order where Charlie's death is last and in 1987

In the survival logbook there are 4 pages that contain coupons. Each page references an important event of fnaf : the bite of 83, the MCI, the "grand reopening" of Freddy's (the fnaf 2 location) and Charlie's death. Now the problem is that if you refer to their order in the book it goes like this : Charlie's death, the bite of 83, the MCI, fnaf 2 location opening. It's a common conception in the community that this order is supposed to give the real chronological order of those events in the timeline, the problem is that Charlie's death is put before the bite of 83 making the Survival Logbook order Charlie83 evidence.

I'm a Charlie87 believer, and even for me these pages were pretty strong evidence towards Charlie83 and I kinda ignored them.... until now.

I was wondering if I could find a way for these pages that were bothering me to be used as Charlie87 evidence. I tried to find something with the numbers etc... but nothing came out of that. Then I wondered something. Do these coupons each come from the same pizzeria ? So I looked at the pages, trying to find hints about which pizzerias they were from, and I started to notice some things about a particular page.

In the first pic you can see the "Grand Reopening" page that references fnaf 2 opening with some things highlighted. These things I highlighted are the hints I found. But anyways, the first coupon is called "Bonnie's new groove" and the second one is called "Freddy's fancy". These names seem to reference toy Bonnie and toy Freddy that's why for me these coupons are from the fnaf 2 location. "Of course they are", you could tell me, ""grand reopening" is clearly a fnaf 2 reference. No need to overanalyse the coupons" and yeah, maybe for this page the event referenced matches with the pizzeria the coupons are from, but what tells you it's the case for the other pages ?

The third pic is about the "take a bite" page that references the bite of 83. The first coupon is called "Chica's cupcake chaos" meaning that the pizzeria the coupons are from contains Chica, and probably not Toy Chica because there's nothing about Chica being fancy or new. Also the word "chaos" being linked to this chica would be kinda weird to use for someone like Toy Chica that's supposed to be fancy. Then in the third coupon it says "receive a gift from the Puppet" meaning that this pizzeria contains Puppet. So we can exclude the fnaf 1 pizzeria. This leaves us with the fnaf 2 location and the mci location. You could tell me that the "reserved party room" means it's the fnaf 2 location but in The Week Before we learn that the fnaf location, who's the MCI location, also had party rooms. "Yeah but it's a retcon" but it also isnt shown that the fnaf 2 location has a kitchen on the camera layout while it obviously does, and fnaf 3 literally inform us about the possibility of rooms not being shown on the camera layout. Also, Puppet being the only animatronic able to move freely and her being the only one that's said to access the "reserved party room" from coupon 3 could not be a coincidence if the other animatronics couldnt access this party room because it's outside of their layout. Another thing but in fnaf 2 she doesnt move from her music box. So yeah, for me these coupons are from the MCI location.

The fourth pic is about the "slice" page that references the MCI. The first coupon is titled "Bonnie's blast". This is clearly linked to the "Bonnie's new groove" from the Grand Reopening page, and if you look a little bit more it seems like every coupons from this page are linked to the coupons from the Grand Reopening page. So it seems to mean that whatever pizzeria the coupons of this page are from it's supposed to be a predecesor to the fnaf 2 location. This heavily implies the pizzeria the coupons are from is also the MCI pizzeria. The third coupon says "Party Time!", a text that is also found on a poster in the east wall of the fnaf 1 location (fifth pic). The MCI and fnaf 1 location is the same so this could be even more proof that the pizzeria is the MCI. Something weird is that unlike the coupons in the other pages these ones dont have anything involving the animatronics except for the names. After the MCI people were probably scared or disgusted by the animatronics after mucus and blood came out of their head so that would explain why the animatronics wouldnt be involved that much with the coupons post MCI. Also, the coupons from this page being directly linked to the ones from fnaf 2's opening page could make sense if those coupons came out just before the MCI location closed. So I think that the coupons from this page are from the MCI location but before the MCI, while the ones from the "take a bite page" are also from the MCI location but before the MCI.

The only page left is the "take your family out" one that references Charlie's death. The first coupon is named "Perfect Pizza Pack", it seems like an upgraded version of the "Pizza Party Pack" coupon from the "Grand Reopening" page. This could mean that the pizzeria these coupons are from is the fnaf 1 pizzeria. The second coupon is named "'Freddy's fun time", "Fun Time" being a text found on another poster in the fnaf 1 east wall. Then the third coupon includes "a visit from Foxy at Pirate Cove". By the time of fnaf 1 Foxy is out of order and if the coupons were from the MCI location why would Foxy stay at Pirate's cove if he could move freely ? So with these hints we can conclude that the coupons are from the fnaf 1 pizzeria.

Ok, you're probably wondering "wth does this have to do with Charlie87" and I'm gonna explain. We know that the chronological order of the pizzerias is : the MCI location -> the fnaf 2 location -> the fnaf 1 location. Now if we take the pages and put them according to the chronological order of the pizzeria their coupons are from we get this : "Take a bite" -> "Slice" -> "Grand reopening" -> "Take your family out". If we replace these pages with the event they reference we get this : Bite of 83 -> MCI -> Fnaf 2 opening -> Charlie's death.

In this order Charlie's death is last, after fnaf 2 opened. This is Charlie87 evidence. The pages that were for so long a pain in the ass for us Charlie87 believers can now be used as evidence for our theory. What do you think about that ?

u/Tabarnak__ — 4 months ago

FLAF being cancelled isnt "a massive blow" for MM87

MM clearly takes place directly after Charlotte's death so saying MM87 took a massive blow is like saying Charlie87 took a massive blow. No one was actually using the 87 dice in FLAF as massive evidence for MM87 cause people were already very sceptical about FLAF's canonicity. Was there a reality wrap where FLAF was the one and only massive Charlie87 evidence without my knowledge ? Like, I don't get what all the panic is about. FLAF being cancelled doesnt do a lot to MM87 considering its link with Charlie87 and it does nearly nothing to MMAfton. Relax fellas

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u/Tabarnak__ — 4 months ago
▲ 52 r/charlie87+1 crossposts

I maybe found the date of the bite of 83 in Stage01

The map of stage01 is composed of 9 copies of Fredbear's in a 3×3 grid, like a keypad. Also, the text "stage 01" is written next to the upper left stage, the "1" in a keypad is also put in the upperleft. If we put a number for each stage in the way a keypad would be we get smth like in the pic. Then, if we note the number of each room we have to get in collision with or touch to access the upper right room we get "198523". This looks like a date. Considering Stage01 is likely about the bite of 83 if we use the numbers 1,9,8 and 3 for "1983", the year, the dates we can make are : "2/5/1983" and "5/2/1983". If the date we're trying to find is linked to the bite 83 we can exclude February 5, 1983 cause it likely doesnt take place in winter and now we're left with May 2, 1983. What do you think ?

u/Tabarnak__ — 4 months ago
▲ 22 r/WorldMetaphor+2 crossposts

The WorldMetaphor subreddit is here. You know nothing about this fnaf theory ? This post will help you understand it.

Hi guys so yeahhh I made a WorldMetaphor subreddit cause I feel like this theory needs more recognization. Not because I made it but because it has good evidence.

Firstly, let me explain it. WorldMetaphor is the theory that Fnaf World is a metaphor that shows that Micheal followed Cassidy's orders to put back together BV while also following William's orders. Adventure Freddy represents Micheal, Adventure Fredbear represents William and Glitchbear represents Cassidy. If you want to see the evidences I found and the problems about the theory, click on this blue text to be directed to the WorldMetaphor wiki page.

Recently I also made a new variation of the theory : WorldMetaphor V2. Click on this to see my post about it. The change with the original theory is that in the og version I said that Micheal made the happiest day happen after following Cassidy's orders and putting CC's pieces back together, but now I believe that they put CC's pieces back together but that it didnt make his happiest day happen yet, and they couldnt make him rest like how they wanted. Like we see in Happiest Day, Charlotte and the MCI souls reunite post FFPS and prob post UCN to recreate BV's birthday memory to alter BV's memories and make him able to have his happiest day and rest. So it's a small variation that doesnt change a lot of things but that is still a notable difference. Just, WorldMetaphor V2 isnt supposed to be a real other version of the theory like with the ShatterVictim variations but it's more of a small change that I didnt implement on the wiki page yet cause I don't have the motivation.

So yeah, I hope this post will convince people to join the subreddit and maybe believe in the theory cause tbh except for me I saw no other believers of the theory yet, and with the new version it matches with CassidyReceiver and BVTOYSNHK perfectly (see this post for more info about how it matches with these theories). It also develops Micheal's character a lot and it's a pretty good concept for him to follow orders from 2 people that have completely opposite motivations.

Let me know what you think about it.

u/Tabarnak__ — 5 months ago