u/ThePeachinator

Part 1 is here https://www.reddit.com/r/hockeygoalies/s/cg94TxKKX9

Here is a yt video of me getting dressed and some clips of my open butterfly on ice at the end.

I'm mid 30s, been playing on and off for a few years but got serious in Fall 2025 and I've been playing 2-3 times a week and doing occasional Goalie Clinics as well. I understand my technique isn't pro level, but I'm convinced it's due to my jock falling and being in my way between my thighs when I try to squeeze my legs together in butterfly.

Any thoughts or tips will be great appreciated!

TLDR: open fivehole in butterfly due to falling jock blocking my thighs from closing. Knee pads also fall due to pants' inner thigh block that flaps up and pushes the pads down.

Please help 🙏

Thank you all so much!

Gear & sizes:
Pads: Bauer X5 Pro 34+ (Senior Medium)
Stick: True 26"
Pants: Bauer GSX (Senior Large)
Knee pads: Bauer Pro 2025 Jock: Bauer Pro

https://youtu.be/a8SKo8z2dgE

Hi goalies, I desperately need your help.

A few months ago I upgraded to the pro knee pads, pro jock, and the x5 pro pads. My old knee pads were sliding down. My old jock was from the 90s. I wish I never bought the gsx pants&chesty but here we are. I wear my gsx chesty on the outside with the inner belt tight as possible and suspenders tight, under my chesty.

Throughout the game I'm constantly hiking my jock up no matter how tight I put the velcro or how high I strap it on my lower back. My knee pads also fall, I think it's because of the inner thigh block in the gsx, it folds in and on top of my knee and pushes my knee pads down. Any way I can keep the knee block in place?

My main concern.. when I go into butterfly, I can't close my butterfly like I used to on my Reebok Lefevbres 34+2. I'm currently wearing Bauer X5 pro 34+ Medium (knee is perfectly centered in knee block). My jock seems to get in between my thighs and I can't close my legs and squeeze that butterfly like I used to. I'm 5'10 and my 26" stick isn't helping block my 5hole. I feel like it's always there but pucks keep going right in.. Maybe I need a 24 or 25 to help..

Should I remove the inner pant belt? Should I hike up the jock? I can't really tighten it more, I'm out of velcro space to tighten it..

Something is messing with it and I keep losing my games and letting too many goals in. Down on myself and need your help please 🙏 I play 3-4 times a week in C/D league calibre.

Any and all suggestions welcome, thank you!

PS I have tons of video footage I can share too, if needed.

EDIT: Thanks all, looks like I'll post a video / pictures of me.

I wear compression pants under everything, and intermediate socks over the knee pads to help keep them tight and in place. The knee pads are the sleeve type so I just have 3 velcros + the sock to hold it.

I'll take some video / photos tomorrow morning and update here or make a new post.

Thanks everyone for your comments!

Hi all,

I have a trackday course coming soon and the org rules state: "Back Protector: CE Level 2 or higher back protectors are mandatory. Foam or soft shell protectors, similar to those included in some suits, are not acceptable. The back protector must cover your spine from tailbone to base of the neck/top of shoulders."

Learning that my 1piece tracksuit insert does not meet this criteria (Revit Hyperspeed3 + Seesoft RV insert). I need to buy a standalone backplate. My question is, is the Plasma considered "soft" ? I see online that it's newer, better fit, thinner, and cooler than the KR-3. But the KR-3 is a rigid shell. I want high protection but something that fits well in the suit.

What do you recommend for a lot of track days and races? I will invest in an airbag vest in the future, but can't afford it now.

Alpinestars Nucleon Plasma Back Protector - $225 CAD
or
Alpinestars Nucleon KR-3 Back Protector - $300 CAD (the side plates are removable)

Thanks in advance!