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To put things into perspective

1. Three supreme reflections were defeated by fiend at the battle for the citadel one of whom was reflecting revel in a few minutes Fiend killed two of those reflections, beat a divine lineage holding saint to near death and another reflection all without breaking a sweat. the reflections were supreme btw while fiend was a newly af[d anted supreme creature as well.

2. Again during the battle of godgrave ,fiend fought three supreme reflections (one of them was the supposed titan who copied nephis the last time) meant to hard counter him at the same time while some of his powers were sealed (shadow step) and he still killed one of them while the other two had to retreat.

3. A supreme titan reflection was killed by a transcendent beast jet who didn’t have stats nearing that of a supreme at that time and was nowhere as strong as she is rn as her core was a lot less filled. She didn’t even have to use her stored souls in the fight against the reflection. That’s still absurd. Imagine if a saint (non divine aspect)fought a great TITAN and won using any method available. The supreme titan woulve had more speed better physicals could express its will freely - was a titan , wouldve had access to all of jet’s memory(enchanted weapons) and still couldnt kill a transcendent beast.

4. In the war against asterion, mordret could personally control reflections and yet his supreme reflections were being beaten by saints of the human domain (like cor😭). In fact Morgan (goat) literally forced a supreme reflection to retreat in seconds. Again these reflections were of a higher class and were supreme on top AND were being controlled by mordret himself.

5. Even now the only way this supreme terror reflection that is in Vol 12 is only relavent cuz it’s special as it was made out of deadret.

6. In the fight for the citadel, moonveil and revel carried the fight and there reflections were there for support to help amplify their powers. As soon as revel(goat) was tied down for a second by sunny the reflection got blitzed and one tapped by saint.

7. In that battle despite having nearly every advantage the reflections(supreme btw) only managed to kill one fodder saint of the army while silent stalker killed three.

So comparing a reflection to a being of a same rank is low-key disrespecting that rank and class 😭.

There is a reason the song sisters tried to run against sunny and nephis even when they had three supreme reflection capable of copying them. On top of all of them too.

The only Ws reflection have managed to get is when they are rank or two above their opponents (like sunny vs beastie).

The only decent feats i genuinely remember is one reflection holding out against saint but even then that reflection had luckily copied her hard counter (Gilead) and still got packed up in a few while saint emerged unscathed and just went on to find a new opponent to fight.
This was before she stole revel’s entire kit and got buffed over the time skip and being able to fight great creatures btw.

Also a reflection cant just copy anyone at any time there are certain criteria that need to be met btw.

Who knows maybe in the future reflections, might get buffed or show some actual feats but for now they are like the potential folk of SS. Half the people in here scale reflections according to how they think reflections should work which kinda goes completely against the potrayal of them so far.
It’s been mentioned how a reflection is a vastly inferior copy and can’t compare to the original the higher up you go in the ranks.

The situation will most likely change in the future but for now reflections are genuinely the bums of their rank.

>Accompanying the beautiful princess was a Reflection of Nephis. The creature looked like her, and had the same presence as her… and yet, Sunny found the copy lacking.

>There was simply no way to mistake it for the real Changing Star, even if one was blind.

If there is a mistake then please forgive me it’s been a few months since I last read that part so I might be remembering something wrong.

He was already a quasi supreme grandmaster in enslavement path and was said to be only one step away from supreme grandmaster realm.

His enslavement path dao marks would’ve easily crossed 300,000 due to him being a dragonman (iirc they naturally had more dao marks and he was a rank 8 immortal who lived for hundreds of years I believe.(iirc)

If not for heaven’s will being influenced by star constellation, his father would have been able to steal fate gu and he (similarly to POIV) would have ascended to rank 9 and become a venerable.

What do you guys think?

The only one else who might’ve been closer than him is Bo Qing. But I don’t remember if he was SGM in sword path or not. He might have been A GGM.

Granny Star constellation really had primordial origin immortal venerable explode right in her face huh😭😭

I just know he’s somehow gonna upload the clip of it in yellow treasure heaven later after the fight.

I really thought star constellation out schemed the great leader of the heave and earth alliance.

I really doubted the goat and thought that he actually for the trap and that he got robbed blind and had his clone processed like a food packet.🥀

Star constellation - who?

Giant Bum - who?

Bro why is he acting like your average store manager offering discounts😭🥀

Great love immortal venerable may be an apt title after all.

The reactions were at the end of the chapter were the same as mine.

When I first read this I was so hyped cuz I thought star constellation had some master plans or something.

But she basically prayed and hoped that the venerables won’t destroy the heavenly court.

Basically relied on the fact that fate gu couldn’t be damaged by anyone except otherworldly demons and is glazed to the ends of the earth for it.🥀

By me.

VTB stole the pixels.

Imagine if he breaks the assist and goals record in the same match…..
Absolutely unreal level of performance by him at the highest stage of football

She was really left speechless every time he spoke😭….
Even fate can’t predict this guy…..

how many times does this need to be mentioned 🫩🫩🫩

Damn I really wished he would’ve taken slayer and maybe serpent too

Serpent has Been shafted for too long it can serve as a weapon for saint or slayer and when they kill a true darkness creature serpent can transform into it and become a powerful asset.

Slayer can also transform into a true darkness creature because of her transformation ability….

Fiend And nightmare can protect humanity…

And what about Vile?? He can copy the abilities of true darkness Creatures(or nephis) too?

Hopefully he doesn’t leave all of them to protect humanity.
(fiend and nightmare along with six of his incarnations and the legion and sacred shades should be enough)

Maybe its revealed that he has taken them later(cope)✌️…

>Living treasure door hummed: “Yes, that’s it!”

>“Ahh… it feels so good…”

>“Deeper, that’s right, a little deeper!”

>“More strength please, it feels better if you’re rougher.”

>“Ohh… that was too good…”

>"Little Fei Fei, your technique is superb.”

Yo what?😭

1)Can the shades use their aspect abilities

-shades like winter beast and goliath could use their abilities but is it true for the shades of humans?

2)How exactly are shades that are of transcendent or below rank nerfed? I have heard a lot of people say they are nerfed but how exactly? as far as I know only the supreme and above shades are nerfed because they don’t possess will like they used too….

3)What rank are the shades of the immortal city- Also these are shades of former humans so do they have access to their aspects?

If anyone knows please answer. Thanks.

Nephis's supreme ability allows her to heal people in her domain remotely.

But the flames she uses to heal them will come from her own reservoir of soul flame(her dormant ability).

So if she is healing someone in her domain she wont be able to use that particular portion of flame to augment herself....

In ch 2573

>She could pour all of her flame into making herself stronger, keep one third of it for herself and pour everything else into her weapon...

>Or even divide it into a million weaker boons, sharing it with a million people bound to her Domain.

>Sunny could not do that. But with the [Shadow Flame], he could—and that would allow him to strengthen not only himself, but also his Shadow Legion.

So if shes fighting an enemy while her domain(full of awakened and masters and a few saints) is fighting simultaneously too she would have to sacrifice a part of her own augmentation in order to heal and augment anyone else.

I have seen a suprising amount of people mistake her ability and say that she can heal and augment anyone in her domain in addition to augmenting herself at max capacity but it is not true.

Healing people in her domain comes at a steep price- that is her losing a portion of her own augmentation of her flame....which basically means that her supreme ability is useless if she is fighting a foe against whom she needs her full augmentation.

Sunny basically copied her supreme ability with the help of a couple enchantments of a soul bound memory 😭......she deserves better…🥀- supreme abilities have been such a letdown and hers wasn’t even a supreme ability she could do this on a lesser scale as a saint.

On top of that when augmenting his shades they can also use his will similar to how asterion's thrall's could act as a conduit of his will.

Eg- ch 2634

>Instantly, the augmentation he was enjoying was transferred to the champion shades of the Black Millipede tribe. At the same time, more of his deathly will was expressed through them, as well....

Not only can he augment he can also weaken enemies.

So he can achieve similar to results to asterion's ability to express his will via his thralls via curse, he can augment his shades via curse and he can weaken his enemies - no matter if its a single powerful enemy(VTB or FoK) or thousands of relatively weaker ones.

He basically has a better version of nephis's (a DIVINE aspect holder’s) SUPREME aspect ability because of a damn soul bound memory🥀.....not only that the augmentation and weakening as well as his will that he would apply or express via his shades would be greater because of [Chain], [Underworld armament] and [Absence of light]....

Add on top the augmentation that spirit weave gives him and the fact that a single incarnation can also command an army flawlessly while augmenting shades or nerfing enemies via the pupeeteer moth its no wonder his [Shadow legion] is getting constant nerfs….

Being able to heal to people is good and all but her domain ability even with the entire human domain behind her is not good enough to keep that many people topped up.…

>Silenced by Neph's raised hand, the roaring crowd grew quiet. An atmosphere of reverence and anticipation suffused the air, countless people looking at the luminous figure that stood in the pouring sunlight above them.

Ngl Nephis had mad aura while addressing the human domain in her speech….

She is ruling all of humanity at the age of like 30.

Mad respect.🫡

We yes we are all like this.

(Not made by me)

As if she didn’t forcefully see jest and orum’s memories….