Round Hill Files $1 Billion Copyright Infringement Suits Against Suno, Anthropic

Round Hill Files $1 Billion Copyright Infringement Suits Against Suno, Anthropic

"There is simply nothing fair about a company using theft to build for purely commercial purposes a multi-billion dollar business while those from which they steal receive nothing," Round Hill said. Ethan Millman, August 17, 2026

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u/TreviTyger — 3 days ago

LOCATION: U.S. Does the District Court’s standard in Baylis v. Valve imply that a foreign court’s localized ruling such as, the German court’s rejection of fair use in GEMA v. Suno can be used via comity to upend and bypass statutory U.S. copyright law?

Briefly, Baylis v Valve is at the Ninth Circuit and the issue is the misapplication of discretionary (precatory) comity rather than the "Mandatory Standard" under the Berne Convention Implementation Act 1988 ("BCIA").

In GEMA v Suno a U.S. AI firm's "fair use" argument was analyzed and rejected. Also Germany doesn't have any fair use law. Under Berne Convention Rules (Article 5(2)) this German ruling shouldn't affect U.S. cases involving § 107 because under the same Berne Convention framework U.S. Law applies in the U.S.

But under the Valve standard (DC level) A German ruling would be afforded comity and Suno would be bound by German Law, thus negating their ability to advance a fair use defense in the US.

To put it another way, a U.S. district court would blind itself to the Berne Convention, afford comity to the German ruling, and treat the parties as bound by the foreign adjudication. Therefore, completely negating a U.S. fair use defense in the U.S.! Thus, effectively letting foreign decrees on fair use nullify a domestic federal statute § 107!

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u/TreviTyger — 5 days ago
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LOCATION: U.S. Does the District Court’s standard in Baylis v. Valve imply that a foreign court’s localized ruling such as, the German court’s rejection of fair use in GEMA v. Suno can be used via comity to upend and bypass statutory U.S. copyright law?

Briefly, Baylis v Valve is at the Ninth Circuit and the issue is the misapplication of discretionary (precatory) comity rather than the "Mandatory Standard" under the Berne Convention Implementation Act 1988 ("BCIA").

In GEMA v Suno a U.S. AI firm's "fair use" argument was analyzed and rejected. Also Germany doesn't have any fair use law. Under Berne Convention Rules (Article 5(2)) this German ruling shouldn't affect U.S. cases involving § 107 because under the same Berne Convention framework U.S. Law applies in the U.S.

But under the Valve standard (DC level) A German ruling would be afforded comity and Suno would be bound by German Law, thus negating their ability to advance a fair use defense in the US.

To put it another way, a U.S. district court would blind itself to the Berne Convention, afford comity to the German ruling, and treat the parties as bound by the foreign adjudication. Therefore, completely negating a U.S. fair use defense in the U.S.! Thus, effectively letting foreign decrees on fair use nullify a domestic federal statute § 107!

reddit.com
u/TreviTyger — 6 days ago

Does Baylis v Valve current standard imply that a German courts ruling rejecting "fair use" such as with GEMA v Suno upend US law?

Question Presented: Does the District Court’s standard in Baylis v. Valve imply that a foreign court’s localized ruling such as, the German court’s rejection of fair use in GEMA v. Suno can be used via comity to upend and bypass statutory U.S. copyright law?

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u/TreviTyger — 6 days ago

If Thaler (Thaler v Perlmutter) had won on his Creativity Machine's output being transferred to him under a "work for hire" legal fiction...

If Thaler (Thaler v Perlmutter) had won on his Creativity Machine's output being transferred to him under a "work for hire" legal fiction then it seems likely that the "I am the creative director" argument from AI gen advocates need not be invoked.

AI Gen advocates could happily claimed the AI gen Outputs as their copyrighted property via "work for hire" legal fiction without claiming any other parts of the process as authorship such as iterative prompting.

The economic benefits that AI gen could offer them would then not need to be justified.

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u/TreviTyger — 7 days ago

If Thaler (Thaler v Perlmutter) had won on his Creativity Machine's output being transferred to him under a "work for hire" legal fiction...

If Thaler (Thaler v Perlmutter) had won on his Creativity Machine's output being transferred to him under a "work for hire" legal fiction then it seems likely that the "I am the creative director" argument from AI gen advocates would not be invoked.

They would instead have happily claimed the AI gen Outputs as their copyrighted property via "work for hire" legal fiction without claiming any other parts of the process as authorship such as iterative prompting.

So that raises the question. If Thaler (Thaler v Perlmutter) had won on his Creativity Machine's output being transferred to him under a "work for hire" legal fiction - would AI gen advocates still claim to be authors themselves?

This highlights the reality that AI gen advocates don't really understand the law and only want the law to side with them regardless. They don't care about being artists. They care about the economic benefits that AI gen could offer them.

If AI gen advocates get copyrights via a "work-for-hire" loophole without doing anything requiring any creative expression, they would gladly stop the obvious, disingenuous charade of pretending to be artists.

reddit.com
u/TreviTyger — 7 days ago

Echoing Palworld dev, video game lawyer says all her clients have anti-AI contracts because gamers hate it and it's a copyright landmine: "I think we're going to see lawsuits" By Austin Wood Published 12 August 2026

"Don't touch it. It's not worth the legal liability"

gamesradar.com
u/TreviTyger — 8 days ago

GEMA hits back after US legal scholar says court's historic ruling was 'imprudent'

Edward Lee, professor of law at Santa Clara School of Law, said the court’s ruling that Suno’s training was not a fair use under the US Copyright Act was “stunning”. In a post on his widely read blog, ChatGPT Is Eating The World, Lee said the decision had thrown “comity” — countries showing mutual respect for each other’s laws and legal rulings — “to the wind”.

grahamlovelace.substack.com
u/TreviTyger — 13 days ago

Brian Murray [HarperCollins CEO] Addresses AI Authorship Issues

He explained that copyright is the foundation of publishing, but that books written with AI could very well be considered uncopyrightable. “An AI-assisted book could very well be treated as a book in the public domain,” he said, which could set off a series of legal issues.

publishersweekly.com
u/TreviTyger — 14 days ago
▲ 31 r/DefendingAI+1 crossposts

Russian court denies copyright protection for AI-prompted images

"...finding that entering prompts for a neural network is a technical process rather than creative work, the state news agency RIA Novosti reported"

novayagazeta.eu
u/TreviTyger — 17 days ago

As Larry Ellison bets the farm, Oracle says it loves AI-written code, just not in OpenJDK

This is soooo soooooooooo bad.
Oracles licensing strategies only work by inventing the law.

I've mentioned how bad this is before. It's really bad.

theregister.com
u/TreviTyger — 17 days ago

This is an old article but I think it deserves some attention give the data scraping lawsuits that are accumulating.

Elon Musk’s X can’t invent its own copyright law, judge says

Judge rules copyright law governs public data scraping, not X’s terms.

Ashley Belanger – 11 May 202

arstechnica.com
u/TreviTyger — 20 days ago

Perplexity AI loses bid to toss Reddit lawsuit over data scraping By Blake Brittain. July 31

"A Manhattan federal judge on Friday rejected most of Perplexity AI's bid to dismiss a lawsuit brought by Reddit accusing it of violating U.S. copyright law by scraping the online discussion platform's data to ​train Perplexity's AI-powered search engine."

reuters.com
u/TreviTyger — 21 days ago

Another Reason Not to Use “AI” For Your Writing

"f you’re a lawyer for a publisher or a film/TV production house, even the hint of possible legal entanglement is enough to raise the shields. It’s already in contracts for both film/TV and for publishing houses that the author attests their work is wholly original, so, again, any hint that anything is other than that brings things to a screeching halt."(John Scalzi)

whatever.scalzi.com
u/TreviTyger — 21 days ago
▲ 354 r/DefendingAI+3 crossposts

German court rules AI music firm Suno broke copyright rules. By Reuters. July 31

  • Summary
  • Court: Suno must disclose illicit revenue, damages yet to be quantified
  • Court: Suno lacked rights to use songs by artists represented by ​Gema
  • Verdict can be appealed before a higher court
reuters.com
u/TreviTyger — 21 days ago

AI Questions Spoil Book & Movie Heat On 'Call Me, I'll Hide The Body' Novel

"Basically, questions were raised over whether the author, an SMU grad student, used AI as a tool in the writing of the book. The problem: publishers and movie companies cannot register copyright and come away with a clear title chain if there is anything AI in the mix. That’s because AI-aided copy is an amalgamation of many other copyrighted works." (Mike Fleming Jr)

deadline.com
u/TreviTyger — 21 days ago