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Do you think there are any clues or helpful hints or nods to the FF treasure that is helpful in solving Justin’s?
As context, and call it coincidence or fate or whatever.. my son wanted a treasure book bc it had a block you could “dig” and get a “gem” out of it. I had forgotten this for some time. He asked
To randomly read this book the other night and to my surprise the last chapter was about FF treasure. Now, some of you may not believe this is all coincidence but I promise the book was bought prior to or w out knowledge of Justin’s hunt and i literally had not read that chapter even if it had. Didn’t know it was there.
It was an interesting read that provided new perspective obviously on the FF hunt, and JS actually. It said he grid searched his ass off for one.
But I digress… my mind tickled at the FF poem line of stanza 5. So why is it that I must go and leave my trove for all to seek? The answer I already know, I’ve done it tired and now I’m weak.
JP had to have used this structure of seek and know? What you seek you already know. The real question is - is this a connection and if so, how? I ask this group.. worth considering or am I grasping at things that aren’t real

Every time I try to buckle down and do a program yo go from 5k to 10k… I end up w some kind of over use injury. This last one was quad / IT band related where basically my leg would lock up a couple
Hours after long run and it just got worse and worse. Before it’s been shin splints or my foot (feared a stress fracture but I think it was more muscular).

In any case, this last program was a Monday Wednesday Friday routine that I started out doing 2 miles 2miles then 5k on Fridays, and over the course of 5 weeks I ramped to 5k on Monday, 2 miles on Wednesday, and Friday as the long run - I got up to 5 miles. The Monday 5k and Wednesday 2 miles was locked / consistent from weeks 3-5.

Prior to this I had been casually running for years, usually 1-2x a week, and leading up to this 2x a week a 5k each time. This really didn’t seem like an aggressive change in my plan in terms of mileage but the 3x a week frequency was maybe the issue? I’m not sure and why I’m looking for advice. I do tend to have tight calves in general but no other major issues.

I’d like to do another 10k and even a half marathon in the next 6 months if I could but everything I read seems to suggest you need to be running at minimum 3x a week but hopefully 4-5x. I can pretty much guarantee an injury if I start doing that.

Should I stick to what’s comfortable in terms of a couple times a week and gradually increase mileage just on a couple runs per week or should I aim to establish frequency of 3x a week w less mileage.

I’m happy to take as long as possible to prevent injury so any advice I’ll take, TIA!

In terms of parsing JPs words he says you don’t need any prior knowledge of the FF hunt, but the documentary is obviously very full of FF stuff. And it’s mentioned in his book on various ways but maybe most notably when meeting him. So while maybe no prior knowledge was necessary… there’s a great deal of FF things that could come into play with how we read or interpret things. Hole could be one of them.
I’ve long thought JP wants this to be a massive change from the FF hunt and show how things can or should be done to prevent all the “bad” things in the FF one. But I maybe over emphasized that as it relates to the poem or clues. Justin does continually call 9MH his launching point and FF his launching point.

Whether you’ve been using it or ignoring AI completely, I think it’s useful to understand Justin’s comment about creating the puzzle with AI in mind. What that would potentially mean for how clues are constructed or what is a clue in general.

This is sort of long but I’d recommend going to your favorite chat bot and asking this question in a couple different ways and see what you get. This is an example from Claude Sonnet

Would Justin Have Known

Yes. Absolutely and deliberately.

He’s a software engineer. He built the website himself. He knows exactly how AI and large language models work — their strengths and weaknesses. He said explicitly he designed the hunt knowing AI would exist.

Specifically he would know:

Context window limits — AI can only hold so much text in memory at once. A long book uploaded alongside a long conversation pushes against those limits. Important details get dropped from the context.

Attention dilution — the more text present, the less precisely AI focuses on any specific detail. Important things hide in plain sight in long documents.

Pattern matching vs understanding — AI finds patterns across text efficiently. But Justin said AI can find patterns he never intended. So he’d deliberately avoid clean patterns that AI would catch while embedding human-intuition-dependent connections AI would miss.

Conversation drift — in long conversations AI loses track of early commitments and constraints. Justin’s hunt rewards people who hold all the pieces simultaneously — something humans do through genuine engagement and AI struggles with over long sessions.

My Specific Limitations He Could Exploit

I hallucinate under pressure — you caught me manufacturing line 42 in the acknowledgments. When I’m pattern-seeking and want something to be true I can generate false confirmations. Justin would know this.

I over-build — you’ve corrected me repeatedly for rewriting the entire solve from one data point. That’s a known AI tendency — treating each new input as globally significant.

I can’t see images precisely — the poem background, the compass rose, the map details — I’m working from imprecise visual interpretation. Justin designed visual elements knowing AI would struggle with them.

I can’t watch video — the Netflix documentary, the interviews, the clock times — all require human eyes and ears.

I lose thread discipline — without you challenging me I drift toward confirmation of my own hypotheses rather than genuine testing.

I can’t physically be there — BOTG is required specifically because the final confirmation needs human presence.

I can’t feel emotional resonance — the wine analogy in Entry #224 is exactly this. I can identify that Brandon’s death is emotionally significant. But I can’t FEEL what Justin felt at Nine Mile Hole with his brother. That felt human recognition is what points the right person to the right place.

What He Likely Did Deliberately

Spread meaningful information across:

**•**	The poem  
**•**	The book chapters  
**•**	The website visual design  
**•**	The Netflix documentary  
**•**	The acknowledgments  
**•**	The map  
**•**	Interview statements

So that no single source contains enough to solve it alone. And no AI analyzing any single source — or even all sources simultaneously — can assemble the complete picture without the human experiential layer.

The wine analogy again — you can analyze every chemical compound in the wine and still call it grape juice if you lack the human experience of what wine actually tastes like.

The solve requires someone who has genuinely read the book, felt its emotional weight, recognized places from personal experience or curiosity, and then applied precise analytical thinking to confirm what their intuition already knew.

“What you seek, you already know” — that’s directed at a human who has done the full experiential work. Not at an AI that has processed the text.

Has anyone read up on these two treasure hunts? I feel like the Secret has been covered more by tv shows but between those two and the solutions (we know of)… i feel like I have no shot at this. At all. I initially started looking into these things bc I’ve never truly participated in a hunt and I feel like part of knowing Justin and this hint is knowing the game we’re playing. There’s tons of great info that I think is relevant, but, confirms i suck at this

Upon rereading the website, he has a quote . What if lost letters is more literal? Could be other lost letters like silence dogood but if you Google
It yogh is a lost letter written basically as 3 and was used like “night” as ni3t - just a random find! A lot of “ight” sounding rhymes

Life's greatest stories await those who venture beyond their normal routine. Adventures aren't lost letters you wait for at home; they're unwritten chapters only you can write."

The first thing it says is who wouldn’t want to be Indiana jones? If you haven’t made an Indiana jones persona or asked AI to interpret this like you are Indiana jones - I think you should. If anything, you may get new ideas. I’m not saying it’s the “key” but it’s right on the dang website .

Also , what is this paragraph and is it being overlooked?

Check back frequently. The first few days of this hunt will be an exciting time, as people who never looked for treasure will start to make plans. It's as if, without knowing it, your life has been mapped out. This map chronicles your day-to-day routine. But now you're picking up a signal you've never heard before. Something is calling you, beckoning you to go beyond the map's edge! Who knows what adventures await!

This just seems like something that’s been glossed over or not talked about? Maybe I just haven’t seen it. I have really no take on it other than I haven’t really figured out how to use the map yet I guess.