u/Weak_Mousse_6236

Hey guys, Thinking of running a local LLM bot on our 20 year old plant nursery business WhatsApp number.

Reply-only, a few dozen messages a day, human-like delays, no broadcasts.

For anyone using Evolution API, WAHA, Baileys, or whatsapp-web.js:
• Banned or fine? What volume, engine, and account age?
• Any warning signs before a ban?
• Did browser-based setups hold up better than Baileys?

to be honest here i don’t want to give meta a cent of my money.

thanks a bunch

i saved up to splurge on a meal i’ve always wanted to try, lobster noodles and was told that it was invented in Mandarin Kitchen, Bayswater. gave it a shot, most expensive meal i’ve had by a long shot. ordered a lobster noodle (£68) along some other sides. service wasn’t great, before i was even sat they told me i had to leave in an hour or so due to their policies, fine. they weren’t quite friendly when we ordered which is also fine, i sympathize with service workers i know it’s not easy. there was no service beyond putting the food on the table no check ups no refilling of anything unless asked, which i guess is the norm? i’m not sure i haven’t been to london in a while.

the food was pretty good, i admit, some are hits some are misses and when the bill came i realized the automatic service tax/tip idk what to call it was 12.5% and it was optional. the tax alone was almost £15 which could buy you another meal elsewhere. i was informed that it was “suggested” on the menu and hence i asked the waiter politely to pass me a check without it and i would happily pay.

he then asked me are you sure? 3 full times and i said yes each time. he then asked me: why?

i said i can afford to pay for the food but the optional tax isn’t comfortably in my budget and that i’d hope they understand since it’s optional. he then went away and another waiter came and asked again: do you want to remove the tip? and i said yes, he asked again, why, i said because the uk law states that it’s optional. he then said, corporate needs a valid reason for rejecting and i said no they don’t, it’s the law here and i would hope they uphold it.

he then went away and another waiter came presumably the manager due to the age difference and asked me why again. he said their salary relies on this and i said you should increase your price instead of putting a lower one with optional tax that isn’t actually optional, forcing it into customers.

i then paid and he came back and said to me that the next time i come back they won’t serve me so don’t ever come to this area. i said do you have to treat me like this? don’t you think it’s rude to demand it when you say it’s optional? why do you think it’s okay to say what you did? don’t worry this is my first and last time here to which he just walked away

it was at this point i realized they didn’t provide me a receipt at all, and i wanted to check if what they charged was accurate or if they added some things i didn’t agree to again. i went to the counter and asked for a receipt and the same manager said no, you didn’t pay service charge so i’m not giving you a receipt. i said you have to provide me a receipt and he ignored me and told me to go away. it was at this point i decided i probably needed to gather evidence so i took out my phone and pressed on voice memo and i asked him again for the receipt, and here he decided to zip his mouth shut. i asked again and he said he will not talk due to being recorded. so i turned on the camera and his entire staff shouted camera and made him look away, which makes me think this isn’t their first time

google reviews explicitly mention that not only do they force the service charge of 12.5% to you, they force you to add extra tip as well. well that’s it that’s my rant, i love this country and this is the first time i’ve experience something remotely close to it and hope you had a good read.