Image 1 — It's been 4 seasons and I still can't stand that piece of trash of Aultcray, only by seeing him on screen. I just wished that Naofumi would have punched that racist royal scumbag in the face already.
Image 2 — It's been 4 seasons and I still can't stand that piece of trash of Aultcray, only by seeing him on screen. I just wished that Naofumi would have punched that racist royal scumbag in the face already.

It's been 4 seasons and I still can't stand that piece of trash of Aultcray, only by seeing him on screen. I just wished that Naofumi would have punched that racist royal scumbag in the face already.

I'm not gonna lie. I really wished that Naofumi would have punched this royal scumbag, piece of trash (pun intended) of Aultcray numerous times, or at least one time, but with an extremely strong hit over his hateful and disgusting face, right after he cleared his name and took away from "Trash" all of his power, status, reputation, respect, influences, royal position and privileges, and even his previous official name for good. After all the insults, disrespect, and dirty, underhanded and cowardly tricks to threaten him and conspire against him to get rid of him.

I just really cannot stand this delusional, insufferable and hypocritical racist old timer, even after he became a powerless slave/peasant looking man between S3 and S4, and a laughingstock of his previous self. Being only allowed to walk around the most hidden and unpleasant parts of his own castle, hiding from the public eye who no longer respects him nor fears him anymore. Although "Trash" wasn't an actual sadistic psychopath who only cares for himself like Malty, with him actually caring for his family at least, even in a very twisted way, and at least he also showed some signs of being redeemable from his reckless and radical way of thinking (unlike Malty/"B1tch"), he is still a massive sociopathic parasite. Because he was the one responsible to spoil that b1tch of Malty so much to begin with, turning her into the pathologic liar and manipulator that we know. Creating a "demon" much worse than the one who thought he was the real threat to lose his family, meaning Naofumi. Turning himself also into this delusional and racist royal scumbag who discriminated and disrespected Naofumi unfairly every time he could, while using every single excuse and conspiracy to make Naofumi's journey the most miserable and insufferable as possible, while giving him less to nothing of rewards, attempting to take away the few people that were on his side and to get rid of him at some point.

I also can't believe that Naofumi never told Fohl and Atla in S3 who Aultcray really was and all the awful things that he and his knights did to him, Raphtalia and the demi-humans in Melromarc. Because it was so annoying and irritating how oblivious Fohl and Atla were when they were talking with the man who used to be one of the worst and tyrannical royal human scumbags who treated their own species like dirt and as a sub-human race, who also intensified the persecution and slavery against demi-humans by supporting that fascist cult of the "3 Heroes Church". If Fohl and Atla would have known that, they would have NEVER acted so friendly towards that piece of garbage, nor seeing him as their uncle or related to them in any other way, even if they were genuinely related by blood; they would have never been so gentle with him, like when they gave him a homemade style food to that despicable monster later in S4, and Fohl would have definitely punched that sh1t-face after everything that he and his sister had to suffer as slaves.

I also discovered very recently that in the novels, after Mirellia caught Aultcray "red-handed" trying to conspire against Naofumi one more time almost at the end of S1, even after he just lost his entire royal position and resources to make another complot against Naofumi successful, Mirellia actually forced "Trash" to run through the castle in his underwear, making him wear a collar that hurt him if he spoke, if he was only going to badmouth the Shield Hero, so he can keep his mouth shut every time that he sees him, along with other stuff to make "Trash" suffer for not learning his lesson. I actually made a LARGER post explaining why I cannot forgive Aultcray as a character in the series for all of his crimes against the demi-humans, especially if I was in Naofumi or Raphtalia's shoes. I also mentioned that I wished that Aultcray would have turned into an actual prisoner or even a slave, instead of the Staff Hero or being involved in anything related to the Melromarc kingdom, or the waves, or the 4 main heroes, doing some forced labor that it can actually benefit the reconstruction of Ludorona, as its medieval fantasy version of "community service", while suffering poor treatment and working in terrible conditions constantly, but not enough to kill that bastard, so he will feel what it's like to be treated like garbage ironically, with everyone being extremely hostile to him unfairly, like he did to Naofumi. But that information about Aultcray being treated in that awful way by Mirellia, it actually makes me feel more relieved and satisfied to know that "Trash" actually suffered some physical torment, like an actual prisoner and even almost as a slave too, specially after everything that he did to Naofumi, Raphtalia and the demi-humans. Such a shame that we never saw that in the anime, because I thought that Mirellia just left Aultcray to move freely around the most hidden and unpleasant parts of the castle only, while making him wear a peasant/slave looking outfit just as her way to "punish" him after she caught him "red-handed" comploting against Naofumi again.

But even if their reasons to hide the truth to Fohl and Atla about Aultcray's true identity was to make him redeem himself to make him finally open his eyes about how heavily wrong he was towards Naofumi as the Shield Hero and the demi-humans, he is still a massive parasite and a racist scumbag who refused to take any kind of responsibility for all of his atrocities, and those white tigers are too good for a despicable monster like "Trash".

u/Working_Answer7196 — 5 hours ago

If the infamous "B1tch"/Malty actually appears in SEASON 5, do you think that we are gonna see her extremely deformed and with very ugly scars all over her body and face, especially after how Motoyasu brutally attacked her in Season 4?

Motoyasu might have been an incompetent idiot for not fully finishing that infamous, despicable, disgusting, two-face, treacherous, emotionless and sadistic psychopath of Malty "The Porky B1tch" right there and then, before the end of Season 4. But man, I would be lying if I don't say that it was SO SATISFYING seeing that b1tch of Malty being brutally hurt by Motoyasu, especially by knowing that she was still alive, will handling all that pain and agony that Motoyasu caused her. For all the awful things that she did to Naofumi and even to the glorified trio of buffoons. Personally, it was the moment that I enjoyed watching the most in Season 4, more than seeing Naofumi and his party defeating those cheap and more forgettable copies of "Trash" and "B1tch" (meaning Jaralis and Makina respectively).

u/Working_Answer7196 — 1 day ago

I wonder if Hangar 13 somehow took inspiration from RFK's assassination and the survival of Paul Schrade from a bullet in the head to create the night of blood in Mafia 3

Now for people who don't know who Paul Schrade was, he was a union official during Robert F Kennedy's campaign for president of the United States, and a very close friend of RFK. He was also in the same kitchen from the hotel where Bobby Kennedy was assassinated, being also one of the other people that Sirhan Sirhan shot in that event. And while Robert Kennedy received many lethal shots, Paul was shot in the head at a relatively short range, and people thought that he actually died instantly during that tragic event, but he actually survived that shot without turning into a vegetated state. The bullet that he received was actually deflected by his skull and he was in a coma for some time in the hospital. And when he heard the sad news that RFK was dead he ended up in shock and into grief after hearing that. Just like Lincoln survived from a bullet in the head at a short range from Giorgi, and with the people who he deeply cared about being killed and betrayed all of the sudden by the Marcanos and by the Dixie Mafia leader, Ritchie Doucet. However, unlike RFK who represented hope, empathy and love towards others, no matter their race, nationality or religion, with the vast majority of Americans being heavily devastated for his death, Sammy, Ellis and also Danny were criminals working for the Italian mob in New Bordeaux. But from Lincoln's perspective, Danny and especially Sammy and Ellis meant so much to him, the same way as RFK meant to the American people, if not more so. Sammy was the one who took him when he had nowhere else to go, representing the hope that Lincoln needed after the orphanage where he used to live was closed; became the little brother that he never had, taking good care of him also (according to Enzo Conti in one of the conversations that he can have with Lincoln); And Danny becoming a very close friend of him without being a black kid from Delray Hollow, but a white Irish kid from Point Verdun, but also having a mutual bond and respect between each other, even during those dark segregated times in the South. But what do you think?

u/Working_Answer7196 — 1 day ago
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When you saw Morello's death in Mafia Definitive Edition, did you thought that he looked like Two-Face from Batman?

u/Working_Answer7196 — 8 days ago

I don't know about you, but for some reason Lucio Marcano on his cigarette card looks more like a punk kid from the 80's/90's to me, who just "time-traveled" to the first half of XX century

Lucio Marcano was the unseen brother of Sal Marcano in Mafia 3, who was killed before the events of that game. We only heard his name from Sal, his wife Olivia, and also from Donovan when he was talking with the senator. We can also find a picture of him with Sal in his office (in which he looks oddly similar to Remy Duvall). It wasn't until the launch of Mafia Definitive Edition when we saw new images from the Marcano family, along with other seen and unseen families in the Mafia universe, through cigarette cards. But unlike his picture from Mafia 3, in his cigarette card he looks unrecognizable. Especially with that hairstyle that gives me more vibes of street punks from the second half of the XX century, but wearing outfits from the 20's/30's.

u/Working_Answer7196 — 9 days ago

What kind of character do you think Carlo Falcone truly symbolize in Mafia 2?

Unlike other Mafia characters in the entire franchise. Like Sam and Cesare from Mafia 1 and The Old Country respectively, in which their characters symbolize blind and reckless loyalty towards their families over their closest friends; Henry from Mafia 2 who symbolizes bad luck towards Vito and Joe; or Sal and Giorgi from Mafia 3 who clearly symbolize betrayal, I can't figure out what type of character truly symbolize Carlo Falcone from Mafia 2.

Carlo Falcone was the don of the Falcone family in Empire Bay, becoming Vito and Joe's boss, who they became made men in his crime family. But after many events that occurred in the story, Vito and Joe ended up betraying him and collapsing his whole family. But unlike other dons like Salieri, in which Tommy developed a very strong loyalty and even a close friendship with him, until he and his friends discovered that he broke his own omerta and he wasn't truly an honorable don like he claimed to be; Or Torrisi who also seemed to be an honorable don, when in reality he only cared about his own image, rather than the happiness of his own daughter, acting more like a ruthless dictator towards her and his own crime family, Falcone doesn't seem to symbolize anything big in particular.

At first I thought that his character could symbolize a corrupt don or a parasite ruling a crime family, due to his goals to become the major drug supplier in Empire Bay and getting rid of any competition. But I think the characters that symbolize that much better are actually Alberto Clemente and Luca Gurino, because of their attempt to rip Vito and Joe off by asking them $5000.00 per each in order to be made in their family, getting themselves in trouble with the commission, because they were actually breaking their own rules in the mafia. Without mentioning that they were also involved in the drug business like Falcone. And unlike Salieri who hid the truth about his drug trafficking towards his own men, Carlo Falcone didn't hide his drug business, with everyone in the commission knowing that.

I also don't see him as a very strong antagonist, especially by comparing him with previous and later antagonists in the series. Unlike Morello who was a hot-headed and unpredictable don who wanted to get rid of Salieri many times around the story of Mafia 1; Or Sal Marcano who betrayed all of his long-time and loyal associates to legitimize his own family by screwing the rest in the process in Mafia 3, Falcone never became hostile towards Vito until the last chapter, after he discovered all the mess that he and Joe caused in the city, knowing also that Vito was sent by the commission to whack him in the same chapter. At the same time, Vito never developed a deep loyalty towards Falcone, nor an actual strong relationship with him, like with the case of Tommy with Salieri; or Lincoln with Sammy. So I don't think that he could fit in that category either.

The closest thing that the character of Falcone could actually symbolize is someone who became a victim by exterior problems caused by their own men (Vito and Joe). Because Falcone never screwed Vito nor Joe in any moment through the story, like Marcano did to Lincoln and the Black and Irish Mobs. Although, it's heavily implied that the fake cops who tried to steal the drugs from Vito, Joe and Henry in chapter 12 were actually Falcone's men (with the YouTube channel of TheProfessional giving pretty good evidence that they were very likely Falcone's men), Falcone and his men probably didn't know that the drug buyers who tried to steal all of their drugs in the Triads' factory were actually Vito, Joe and Henry, so this doesn't necessarily count as an attempt to screw Vito and Joe intentionally. And NO, that overrated and irrelevant comment from Daniel Vavrá (a former developer of Mafia 2) claiming that Henry was actually framed by Falcone doesn't count. Because that developer left the company in the middle of Mafia 2's development and his claims and visions never became canon in the final product.

I'm not saying that Falcone was an actual innocent person by any means. He was definitely a criminal and a cold blooded mob boss, who wanted to poison Empire Bay with drugs and getting rid of any kind of competition. But he became basically a disposable pawn by Leo and the commission, in order to finish the war that Vito and Joe started between the Triads and the Vinci family specifically, by whacking Falcone and dissolving his entire organization in Empire Bay. With Vito and Joe screwing him at the end, with no loyalty towards him. But even if this is the type of character that Falcone actually symbolizes in Mafia 2, it's not actually a big thing, especially by comparing him with other dons and characters in the Mafia series. But what do you think?

u/Working_Answer7196 — 9 days ago

Was there any other Mafia fan who thought that Luca Gurino looks kinda similar to Walt Disney?

I remember a comment from a playthrough of Mafia 2, about a user saying that his/her sister thought that Luca Gurino was actually Walt Disney in Mafia 2. After reading that comment I just barely realized that Luca actually looks quite similar to Walt Disney. And now that we talk about him, I wonder if the company of Disney actually sued 2K Czech way back in 2010 for copyright violations. When Henry says that Marty had a voice like Minnie Mouse in Chapter 11. Because some other franchises that are not related to Disney Company and make references to its most popular IP's like Mickey Mouse, oftentimes don't say the names of its characters in their franchises for copyright reasons. But what do you think about it?

u/Working_Answer7196 — 10 days ago

Did you know that the voice actor of Dave Fennoy aka "Lee Everett" from The Walking Dead Game of Telltale Games was in the Mafia series twice?

To give more context, Dave Fennoy is a real-life voice actor, better known for his role as Lee Everett, the protagonist of the first season of The Walking Dead Game from 2012 developed by Telltale Games. However before and after he played the role of Lee Everett, he also portrayed many other characters away from the brand of The Walking Dead, in this case with 2 entries of the Mafia franchise. Now you probably didn't know this, especially if you are not both a Mafia fan AND a The Walking Dead Game fan at the same time, giving voice to 2 different characters in Mafia 2 from 2010, and one in Mafia 3 from 2016. In Mafia 2 he was Walt Williams and Sammy Stevens, hosts during the 40's and 50's timelines respectively, both from the same radio station of Delta Radio in Empire Bay. While in Mafia 3 he portrayed Charles "The Voice" Laveau, also as a host from The Hollow Speaks in New Bordeaux. But he also had a major role later in the story expansion DLC of "Faster, Baby!" as the leader of a black movement to take down the infamous corrupt sheriff of Walter "Slim" Beaumont from Sinclair Parish.

u/Working_Answer7196 — 11 days ago

I'm surprised that in Vito's optional death in Mafia 3 mentions Derek, Clemente and Leo as some of the main "c-suckers" who f*cked him the most, but not Luca and specially Henry

As much as I hate to see Vito's optional death scene by not giving him enough territory in Mafia 3 to make him happy and loyal towards Lincoln, I have to say that it was also kinda cool to hear him saying the names of some previous characters from Mafia 2. However, I'm still surprised that he just mentioned Derek, Clemente and Leo as the main people who screwed him in his life, backstabbing him in the process unfairly, but he never mentions Luca and especially Henry.

Derek Pappalardo definitely deserves to be in one of the highest positions in the list of people who screwed Vito the most. Not only was the one who ordered the assassination of his father, but when Vito came to his warehouse to ask him for a job, Derek hid him the truth about it and acted dumb, while using Vito for his own benefits. It wasn't until the workers of Derek recognized Vito as the son of Scaletta (meaning his father) when they revealed to him that Derek was the one who killed his father. Although Steve Coyne was technically the one who murdered Vito's dad, he was doing more the role of a hitman sent by Derek to do it, without asking any questions.

Alberto Clemente while technically he also screwed Vito and Joe, being also the one behind the attempt of ripping them off by making Luca to ask them $5000.00 per each in order to be made in his family, he never had any direct contact nor interaction with Vito or Joe when they used to work for him and his family. In fact, Vito, Joe and also us, the players, barely knew anything about Clemente as a character (apart from the awful jokes that he says in his hotel). Clemente actually screwed more to Joe than Vito, when he and his men killed Marty in the parking lot, causing Joe to fall into a big depression and guilt for what happened to Marty, despite that he was his idea to bring him in the first place, and Marty's fault also for not staying in the car like he was told to do.

Luca Gurino on the other hand, despite that he was basically just the second in command of Alberto's organization, he was actually the main member of the Clemente family responsible for screwing both Vito and Joe. In the DLC of Joe's Adventures, Joe wanted to kill the person who ratted out Vito, but Luca ordered him to just threaten the guy to send him a message. Joe was very loyal to Luca and he followed all of his orders without disobeying him, as long as Luca would give his word that Vito would get out of prison. But in the end Vito was sent to a Federal Penitentiary for 10 years and it's very likely that the lawyer that both Clemente and Luca sent to Vito was just there to make sure that he didn't rat them out, not to actually help him to get out of prison, or at least try to reduce his sentence, like Leo did. And Luca specifically, not only didn't keep his word to Joe, but he also screwed him later. How did Luca reward Joe after being loyal to him and following all of his orders in the first act of Joe's Adventures DLC? By sending some hitmen to kill him, because he felt very insulted when Joe yelled at him for failing to get Vito out of prison, forcing Joe to hide in the south for some time (very likely in the city that ended up becoming New Bordeaux in the series). And even though Joe technically brought that conflict on himself with Luca, because he wasn't a made man yet at that point, and he couldn't yell to a capo regime like Luca without any repercussions, despite that he had all the reasons to be angry at him, it also shows how much of an ungrateful bastard was Luca towards the people who worked for him in the Clemente family, showing more of his true personality in Chapter 9 when Vito confronted him in the slaughterhouse.

As for Leo Galante it's kinda more complicated the reasons that Vito now heavily despises him so much in Mafia 3, despite that he used to look at him as a father figure previously in Mafia 2. Leo helped Vito a lot during his time in prison, by offering him protection against hostile prisoners, reducing his sentence just to 6 years instead of 10 and helping him also to become a made man in the Falcone family. Vito cared for Leo so much that when Eddie sent Henry to kill Leo, he put his life and position in the Falcone family to save Leo's life. Leo never forgot that, and even after Vito and Joe started a massive war against the Triads and the Vinci and Falcone families because of Henry, he tried his best to save Vito's life by making a deal between Frank Vinci and the leader of the Triads, Mr. Chu, to make Vito kill their common and major enemies, Carlo Falcone. However, Leo never mentioned anything about Joe's fate, nor how exactly Vito is gonna be able to get away with all the mess that he and Joe caused, if he agrees to kill Falcone. At the end of Mafia 2, Leo's men sent Joe to another place, implying that they are gonna whack him in some discreet place away from the public eye, while Vito was going to be exiled to another city very far from Empire Bay, which it became New Bordeaux. Although, at the end of Mafia 3 it was shown that Joe was never killed and he was the personal driver of Leo, Vito thinks Joe was dead because of Leo. Despite all the things that Leo did for Vito to help him out and also to save his life, Joe was like a brother for Vito, knowing each other since they were kids. And Leo by supposedly sending Joe into a trap and killing him, it was a huge stab in the back for Vito personally, to stop looking at him as his father figure, when a father shouldn't betray the person who his son sees as a brother, even if they are not related by blood.

In a hypothetical event, it's almost like if Sammy Robinson, who took Lincoln when he had nowhere else to go and treated him like a son also, by trying to save the lives of both Lincoln and Ellis from a similar situation like Vito and Joe went into, he decided to make a deal with the people who his sons pissed them off, but by doing that, he would send one of their closest friends who was also involved in the same mess as them (Danny Burke) into a trap to be killed instead, because he wasn't part his "deal" either. In this case, because Danny was an Irish white guy from Point Verdun and an outsider from Delray Hollow and for the Black mob. If something like that would have actually happened in Mafia 3, Ellis and especially Lincoln would have never forgiven Sammy for screwing Danny like that, even if that was the only way to save the lives of his own children. Because Danny was a very close childhood friend for both Lincoln and Ellis. And even though, we didn't see too much of Lincoln's friendship with Ellis and Danny in particular, you can actually tell in the prologue they had a huge bond, respect and friendship between each other. And Lincoln would have definitely stopped seeing Sammy as his father in a situation like that, just like Vito did with Leo. And I think the reason that Leo lied to Vito about Joe's fate, was to make him avoid ever contact Joe, so they won't cause another massive war like they did back in Empire Bay. And with Vito stop looking at Leo as his father figure, if something bad happens to Leo by some rival faction who wants him dead, Vito would care less about it, and he won't do another thing so stupid, like avenging Leo's death by hunting down the people responsable of his murder, causing Vito way more problems in the process by acting through his emotions instead of his mind. So Vito might have his reasons to hate Leo in Mafia 3, but he just doesn't know all the truth about Leo's actions to save him and also Joe.

But the one who Vito should have mentioned as one of the main and probably top 1 "c-sucker" who f*cked him the most in his life is none other than Henry Tomasino. I made a post discussing how Henry is one of the most overrated characters in Mafia 2 and how he was actually an awful "friend" of Vito, just an opportunistic parasite, a fake person, and a bad luck magnet who only manipulated him and Joe all along, causing them too many problems by working for him. Just think about it, Henry was the main reason for all of the bad things that happened to Vito in his story. For starters, he was the one who sent Vito to steal the gas stamps from a federal building, then he asked him to do something that Vito didn't agree to, which was driving to many gas stations around the city to get his money for the gas stamps, claiming that he will forget this extra thing that Vito had to do for him. But later, Vito got arrested because of his job and sent to a federal penitentiary for the next 6 years (if it wasn't for Leo), and during his time in jail, his mother got very sick, to the point of passing away, and Henry did nothing to help Vito like he claimed that he would do. He never took care of his mom while he was in jail, nor gave him some bonus for doing that extra thing that Vito did for him, or at least visited him at the prison once. Henry just screwed Vito over, letting him rot in jail on his own, and after Vito whacked out the whole Clemente family, Henry had the nerves to appear in front of Vito's house and begging to vouch for him to be accepted in the Falcone family now. And on top of that, he pushed both Vito and Joe to join into his drug ventures, which it was a set up from the start, with Henry being as an informant working for the feds all along. But when his goals backfired him big time, when the Triads discovered his true identity, butchering him and killing him in the middle of the park, he continued causing even more problems to both Vito and Joe. With them attacking the Triads' restaurant as a retaliation for what they did to Henry, only to have the revelation that he was actually a rat and with his heroine money gone, starting a massive war between the Triads and the Vinci and Falcone families, forcing them to cause even more chaos around the city, in order to pay Bruno's loan, with all of their drug ventures turned into a massive failure. Without mentioning that Henry was the main cause that turned both Vito and Joe into death men walking, forcing Vito to kill Falcone to save his own life, causing his exile, without any chances to return back home, at least to make sure that his sister Francesca was okay now with her scumbag husband of Eric. And also his separation from Joe.

If Vito and Joe would have never met Henry, none of the biggest mess that they ended up being involved and trapped with would have ever happened in the first place. Vito would have never been sent to jail; he would have never brought Henry into the Falcone family, putting the life of Leo in danger; he and Joe would have never joined his set up with the drug ventures; they would have never started a war with the Triads and all the Italian mobsters; they would have never caused tones of chaos to pay Bruno's loan; and they would have never turned into dead men walking across Empire Bay, nor Vito's exile from the city. With Vito and Joe having a much better relationship with Eddie and especially Falcone, being loyal and trustworthy members of the Falcone family and turning into capo regimes like they always wanted. So yeah, Henry was actually the one who screwed Vito the most, more than any other character in Mafia 2. Even if it was in a more indirective way.

u/Working_Answer7196 — 13 days ago

Is it possible to at least talk about Grand Theft Auto Liberty City Stories, the most "Mafia" GTA title, here in the Mafia Games' community on Reddit?

The reason I'm asking about this (more specifically towards the main people behind this Mafia Games' community on Reddit) is because, before I publish anything else related to this GTA title in particular, I want to make sure that there's no problem talking about this game here in this community. I don't want to cause any fuzz like if I'm actually breaking the rules of this community, for not talking about topics related to the Mafia franchise, or to the Godfather and Scarface titles which are also very popular to talk about in this community, and if I want to talk about GTA Liberty City Stories or any other GTA game, that I should go to any other GTA community instead. But the reason that I want to publish GTA LCS posts here in this community, is because like I said before, this is the most "Mafia" GTA title in the franchise, and there are many things that we can discuss about this game. Like talking about Salvatore as a mob boss, the way that he made the "Made Man" ceremony for Toni, the references to the Sopranos, and so on. But I want to make sure that there's no problem talking about this specific GTA title in the Mafia Games' community on Reddit.

u/Working_Answer7196 — 16 days ago

Do you know if someone in the Mafia Mod community already made a reskin for Lincoln's suit with stripes on it, like in this screenshot from the "Rule Together" ending?

I know that we have Tommy's suit in the vanilla Definitive Edition of Mafia 3, having his suit stripes on it, but it would be nice to have other alternatives to make Lincoln look more like an actual mobster, just like Tommy, Vito and Enzo, through vanilla-friendly reskins for his outfits.

u/Working_Answer7196 — 18 days ago

Is there any chances that this unknown character could be an early "mafioso" version of Marty, before he was turned into the immature associate kid that we know?

u/Working_Answer7196 — 19 days ago

I still don't understand why many fans have this constant love and admiration towards Henry Tomasino from Mafia 2

Henry Tomasino is probably one of the most overrated characters in the Mafia series, being a huge fan favorite character in Mafia 2, besides Vito and Joe. To the point that many fans are still denying to this day that Henry was really a rat and oftentimes justifying that irrelevant and meaningless claim of that former Mafia 2 developer of Daniel Vavrá that on his world Henry wasn't really a rat and that Falcone set him up, despite that this guy left the company during the development of Mafia 2, and his vision of Henry didn't become canon in the final product.

When I first played Mafia 2, I will admit that at first glance Henry looked very badass and an intimidating gangster, having a genuine friendship towards Vito and Joe (or that it seemed to be), while having crazy adventures all together, and it was so shocking for me also his death and the revelation that he was actually a rat working for the feds, having my own doubts about that claim too. But now looking in retrospective, there were many signs that Henry wasn't who he claimed to be. From his story about being sent to America after the fascist dictator of Mussolini took power in Italy, despite that he had a very good English and an American accent just in a short amount of time, knowing where Vito lives after he bought a house for himself not too long ago, to the unknown people that they gave him the information about the drug operations in the city and knowing that the cops that they tried to steal the drugs that they bought from the Triads weren't real cops. Without mentioning that apart from Wong, Falcone and especially Leo also accused Henry of being a rat.

The next thing that I'm going to say is probably gonna pissed many Mafia 2 fans and especially the Henry fans, but I also realized that Henry wasn't that good friend of Vito in particular. In fact, he was actually a massive scumbag piece of sh1t towards him, a parasite, an opportunist and a bad luck magnet who only used both Vito and Joe all the time, pretending to be their friend, in an attempt to get his own freedom from the feds, by deceiving and betraying them in the process, to the point that I ended up despising him as a character. He might not be so hateful like other Mafia 2 characters like Luca or Derek, but he did many things that actually ruined Vito's life and he did nothing about it to help him, if he was really a good friend of Vito.

For instance, the first job that Henry gave to Vito of stealing a federal building, not only was very risky as Vito's first job working for the mafia, but he also made a deal with him that if he gets the gas station stamps he will get $600.00 per each if he doesn't raise the alarm. However, Henry doesn't give Vito any kind of bonus for driving to the gas stations and he tells him that he has to do this all tonight or he gets no money. That WASN'T part of their deal, and Henry had the nerves to say that sh1t happens and claiming that he won't forget it if Vito pulls that off. Some people might say that the money that Henry gave to Vito after sending him to Dr. Grecco was his way to compensate Vito for that extra work with the gas stamps and also for saving him after he was shot, so he can also pay the debts of his father and help his family, with people acting like if Henry was actually a good person. But that money was owed to Vito regardless for helping Henry with his hitman contract, NOT as an additional bonus nor as a gratitude gesture for helping him.

Later Vito got arrested because of Henry's stupid job with the gas stamps, being sent to 10 years in a federal penitentiary. If Vito wouldn't have visited those gas stations for Henry, he wouldn't have been arrested, because there wouldn't be evidence against him. Henry never gave Vito any extra money for that job and yet he had the nerves that he will never forget it, and later things turned even worse for Vito. His sister Francesca told him that their mother was very sick after Vito was sent to jail, and then she tragically passed away not too long ago after that. Now the reason that I partially blame Henry for Vito's mom's death is because Vito did something extra for him that he didn't agree to and he was sent to prison because of that. In that time that Vito was in jail, Henry had the responsibility to look after Vito's family, especially his mom. In the mafia when someone goes away, whether being arrested, exiled or dead, the family or the member who sent that guy on that is supposed to help that guy's family, especially as an exchange for his silence while being in jail. But Henry didn't do this, he said that he will never forget about that extra job that Vito did for him and then he abandoned him in prison. He could have at least found a good doctor for Vito's mom before her condition worsened. But no, he didn't care and left Vito to rot in prison. And to top it off, Henry never visited Vito once in prison, while Joe was actually the one who visited him numerous times in prison. Joe also claimed that Henry actually felt bad for what happened to Vito, but if it was actually the case, he would have done any of the things that I mentioned, but he didn't. Some people might say that Henry couldn't visit Vito because that would have pissed the Clemente family and that he didn't know where Vito's family lives to actually help them. But if Henry could manage to avoid being caught ratting for many years and locating Vito so easily after he and Joe wacked the whole Clemente family, he could have also avoided being caught by visiting Vito and locating his family to take care of them during his time in jail.

When Vito finally got out of prison, Henry instead of visiting him to first apologize for what happened to him and offering him some money, he had the nerves to appear on his front porch after 6 years that his mom died, and begging to vouch for him to Falcone. It wasn't until Vito asked him why he should care when Henry apologized to him. Henry just screwed Vito and begged him for a job after he left him rot in jail. And when Vito brought him into the Falcone family he put the life of Leo in danger because of that, with Eddie sending Henry to kill him. Some people might say that Henry spared Leo's life as a friendship with Vito, but it wasn't. Leo just bribed Henry massively with something that he couldn't reject, and he also spared Leo's life, because if Henry kills him, Vito would have never forgiven him, and he wouldn't have joined him on his drug ventures later on.

Speaking about the drug ventures, Henry also pressured both Vito and Joe to join into that drug deal that he told the feds about and lied to Vito about how they are gonna sell the heroine that they bought from the Triads, just to bring him on board, when Vito was against selling drugs. Because if Vito rejects his drug ventures, that would have ruined Henry's plans with the feds. And to finish all this up, Henry was also the responsible of Vito and Joe starting a war between the Italian mobsters and the Triads, forcing them to cause tons and tons of chaos around the city in order to pay Bruno's loan, turning them into dead men walking. And also causing Vito's exile from Empire Bay and moving to New Bordeaux working for Sal Marcano in Mafia 3, separating him from his best friend Joe.

The only actual good and honorable thing that Henry did was warning Joe that Luca was planning to send some hitmen to kill him, after he yelled to him for failing to get Vito out of prison in Joe's Adventures DLC. And yet Henry just did it not as genuine friendship once again, but because he owed Joe for helping him to bring him to Grecco's place to patch him up, but he didn't do the exact same thing for Vito in any way, shape or form, despite that he also saved his life after being shot. And unlike other awful friends in the Mafia series like Giorgi Marcano from Mafia 3, which you can argue that he was a much worse friend than Henry, after he directly betrayed Lincoln and the rest of his old time childhood friends for Sal's casino. What people don't understand is that Giorgi was actually a genuine friend of Lincoln in the past. They went way back, hanging out also with Ellis and Danny and having some crazy adventures all together. But Giorgi was raised and influenced by his father Sal Marcano to become a cold blooded mobster, that loyalty towards your own family is only what matters and longtime friendship with your associates is irrelevant in this type of business, being nothing more than tools very easy to dispose of once they don't need them anymore. Henry on the other hand, he was NEVER Vito and Joe's friend, he just used them right from the start as nothing more than tools for his opportunistic goals, deceiving them all along and causing them tones and tones of problems in the story, even after his death.

As for Daniel Vavrá's claims about Henry, I'm sorry to the Henry fans who are continuing defending Henry, but you are completely wrong by justifying your constant denials about Henry being rat, because his claims means absolutely nothing. While Daniel Vavrá played a major role in making Mafia 2 as the creative director, he left the company in the middle of Mafia 2's development and he didn't finish the project, so his vision isn't canon, only that matters is the final product. And in the final product Henry was definitely a rat, they put all those suspicious signs of Henry on purpose. Daniel Vavrá and all the Henry fans can say all they want that Henry wasn't a rat, but it's the final version of Mafia 2 that matters the most. And if you are still thinking that I'm just trashing and hating Henry for no logical reason, I highly suggest you to watch a YouTube lore video from the YouTube channel TheProfessional, in which he explains very deeply why Henry was definitely a rat, his true identity and his real goal behind the story.

u/Working_Answer7196 — 24 days ago

If the Kakegurui series makes a crossover with the game of Fallout New Vegas, in which Yumeko plays a gambling game with non other than Robert House, which one do you really think will win at the end?

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u/Working_Answer7196 — 26 days ago
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I was already awared early on that Alex Hernandez before portraying the main protagonist of Lincoln Clay in Mafia 3, he previously worked in The Walking Dead Game Season 3 The New Frontier, voicing David Garcia, the protagonist's brother of that particular entry, Javier Garcia. However the thing that I never realized before was that the character of Javier/Javi from that game was voiced by the same VA of Danny Burke (Jeff Schine). In other words, Lincoln and Danny's respective voice actors not only worked together previously, before Mafia 3, but they also ended up having a protagonist role, while working together in different projects. With Jeff Schine having the role of Javi in TWDG S3 and Alex Hernandez the role of Lincoln in Mafia 3. Looking back to TWDG The New Frontier and seeing Javi and David, now I feel that I'm watching a major interaction and more conversations between "Danny"/Javi and "Lincoln"/David that we never had the chance to see in the actual Mafia 3. While Ellis was Lincoln's brother in Mafia 3, Danny was Lincoln's brother in TWDG S3. Who could have guessed XD?

u/Working_Answer7196 — 2 months ago